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[xranger]

I just found this on Archery talk in the Wisconsin area.

"Crossbows rejected again

Today I attended the meeting of the Conservation Congress Big Game committee. One of the issues they were to take up was a resolution to allow unrestricted crossbow use in all of the states metro deer hunting units. Knowing of this for several months, I penned a statement on behalf of the WBH and encouraged the same from the Wisconsin Traditional Archers. Those letters were distributed to the committee members well in advance of the day's meeting and were mentioned by committee members as reasonable justification to oppose the resolution. It was again mentioned that this was just a back door attempt at inserting crossbows into the archery deer season were all other attempts had failed due to lack of support.

The 20+ members in attendance voted unanimously to reject the resolution. The archery deer season will remain as is.

Protecting, promoting and preserving the archery seer season, 24/7/365. Always watchful, always vigilant."

[Redclub]

Maybe
http://www.jsonline..../112338454.html
Redclub

[Moon]

What a shame!

[Redclub]

Oh vigilante one don't be so sure, They voted to bring it up at spring meetinghttp://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/112338454.html

Redclub

[Tim50]

Redclub, on 26 December 2010 - 11:14 AM, said:

Oh vigilante one don't be so sure, They voted to bring it up at spring meetinghttp://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/112338454.html

Redclub

The hunters of Wisconsin will will eventually speak up & crossbows will be in the Wisconsin woods. Let's hope that the likes of "Rancid Crabtree" Archer or is it xranger TODAY and their Law Firms & lobbyists will be defeated. It is not IF crossbows will be in the Wisconsin woods just when!! Keep the faith!

[Hurricane]

oh my God, just read through some of the "comments" on the article. Where in hell are these people's minds? Most of the comments don't make a bit of sense, just the mouthing of WBH rhetoric. "crossbows are a superior weapon", "crossgun", " it has a stock, so, therefore it's a type of assault weapon" Get out from under the rock you live under and get into the REAL world. "59% of the people voted it down in 2005" FIVE THOUSAND voting and the 59% comes from THAT??? I thought there were over 600,000 licensed hunters in the state.
GEEEZ

[Tim50]

Hurricane, on 26 December 2010 - 02:49 PM, said:

oh my God, just read through some of the "comments" on the article. Where in hell are these people's minds? Most of the comments don't make a bit of sense, just the mouthing of WBH rhetoric. "crossbows are a superior weapon", "crossgun", " it has a stock, so, therefore it's a type of assault weapon" Get out from under the rock you live under and get into the REAL world. "59% of the people voted it down in 2005" FIVE THOUSAND voting and the 59% comes from THAT??? I thought there were over 600,000 licensed hunters in the state.
GEEEZ

The same old retoric that failed in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Texas, New Jersey and will eventually fail in Wisconsin. As more & more factual information becomes available the misinformation & lies of these anti crossbow/anti hunter organizations is shown in its true light. Their entire anti crossbow platform crashes to the ground once emotion is eliminated & available facts are used. 600,000 hunters being held hostage by 7,000 elitests & their Law Firms & lobbyist. I thought this was a hunting/hunter issue. The hunting majority are being dictated to by Lawyers & Lobbyist who HUNT the hallways of the state capital. It is just a matter of time............keep the faith!

[briarpatch]

found this on the Wisconsin DNR website.....embedded in a 'gun hunt survey' are crossbow questions:

http://dnr.wi.gov/or.../survey.htm....

Got these instructions directly from WI DNR themselves:

Select the "Mail Survey" tab. Then select "Gun deer hunting questionnaire"

You will be prompted to enter a password. The password is"

deerhunting

[xranger]

I saw that too. I found the link and read the instructions. it says this

" Who can take the survey? I hunted/trapped this year, can I take the survey?

Not all hunters, trappers, and outdoor enthusiasts are eligible to take the survey. Each year randomly selected license holders are asked to participate in the survey. Only those hunters who have been randomly selected and notified by the Department of Natural Resources are eligible. How many hunters are selected is based on the number of licenses sold for each particular hunt. If a hunter has a license for a hunt with very few licenses, the greater the likelihood is that they will be selected to take the survey."


I clicked on it anyway and it asked for my WDNR customer number and county of residence. ( I live in IL) It seems that have some pretty good security to prevent people from taking it unless they were actually mailed the survey notice. It was worth a shot.

[Hurricane]

Just took the survey. There ARE two crossbow related questions. answered YES to both of them. no WBH member HERE!!!

'Cane

[Mr. Pike]

Hurricane, on 31 December 2010 - 06:24 PM, said:

Just took the survey. There ARE two crossbow related questions. answered YES to both of them. no WBH member HERE!!!

'Cane

Gotta luv the anti's huh ? wbh does not speak for the majority . Can't wait until Wi allows crossbows in the regular archery season .

[xranger]

Just heard that the full inclusion question failed again by a big margin in WI. Cant say I'm surprised.

[Guide Girl]

I think there is a way to get new law written to allow crossbows into deer season by going around this tainted "special interest" Conservation congress. As with any government, there is a way around any rock using the checks and balances systems. If you are on the board of the Wisconsin Crossbow Federation and would like to discuss it, PM me and we'll talk and see what we can come up with.

[Hoosier Hunter]

Game management decisions should be made by the states Department of Natural Resources. Not some gathering of biased and self interest groups

Poor way to run any ship.

[Munsterlndr]

I'd disagree that the results in Wisconsin are that disappointing.

Couple of things,

First, the question to lower the age for crossbows in deer season to 55 had majority support, with 56% of those voting supporting it. If that is enacted into law, that means a lot more crossbows in the woods next year.

Secondly, the full inclusion measure margin of defeat was about 1,000 votes out of 5,000 cast. Approx. 500 individuals who attended had no strong feelings on the crossbow issue either way and did not vote on this question. Wisconsin crossbow supporters just need to sway those "don't care" votes into "support" votes and it becomes a completely different ball game.

The legislature is ultimately who will decide this issue, not the conservation congress. You build support for change one brick at a time. Crossbow supporters should take heart that a majority supported dropping the age to 55 and focus on swinging another 10% of the vote into the "support" column. If the vote becomes essentaily split, it opens the door for the legislature to enact change.

One brick at a time and eventually the wall will be built.

[Guide Girl]

Why not just go straight to the legislators and get 'er done? They're the ones who write and pass the laws and the wildlife dept merely enforces what the legislation says. That's a way to go around this Conservation Congress or whatever it's called. Sounds like BS to me. Maybe they need to be dismantled and defunded.

[Munsterlndr]

Guide Girl, on 14 April 2011 - 12:40 PM, said:

Why not just go straight to the legislators and get 'er done? They're the ones who write and pass the laws and the wildlife dept merely enforces what the legislation says. That's a way to go around this Conservation Congress or whatever it's called. Sounds like BS to me. Maybe they need to be dismantled and defunded.

I'm not from Wisconsin but I've heard the legislature there is a little busy right now either hiding in Illinois to avoid the State Police or getting ready to face recall challanges.

I tend to agree with you though, the CC is a distraction and WBH is already lobbying politicians, the smart approach would be to go straight to the source of power.....assuming they are back from their out-of-state vacations, that is.

[Guide Girl]

Sounds like a perfect opportunity arrising.

[Redclub]

Up here in Wi.we are not going to see full inclusion for quite awhile. 55 will happen IMO,
Actually the conservation congress is a good thing, once a year sportsman can voice there concerns at a meeting held in every county on the same night. It is just advisory to the DNR and the Natural resource board. The NRB oversees the DNR and is composed of members that are appointed by the governor. Our present chairman is a past chairman of the Sierra Club Some things have to be Oked by the legislature but not all. Really its not a bad system but very slow. Going to the legislature usually doesn't work unless you have a lot of pull. XRanger or Rancid Crabtree(WBH) seem to have an in with some members. 55 will be a good start though,but probably not until 2012
Redclub

[Jack Pine]

Your brothers over here across the lake are pullin' for ya, anything we can do to help?

Jack ><>