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[crappie-tom]

Hi guys - I noticed on the Firenock website you can obtain possibly with a phone call the new Aero Bolt 2 with Q nocks for the Beast. If they are available I'm sure someone on here has some. Anyone have any comments?


Dorge why has this new bolt become so quiet? I thought they were to be readily available by now.


c-t

[firenock]

That is because in order for me to start selling it readily, I have to get a few patent filed. I am very closed to done that. I also have the insert and the point made already. Yes, it is stainless at the front and "XXXX" on the back and weight 110 grains. So, no one besides a few that swear secrecy had access to it. And yes, Q and J nock are also ready. I am just waiting for all to fall into places before I open the flood gate!

Imagine a bolt with 220 to 250 spine back, 50 - 70 front, it is WAY stiffer compare to laser II's 300 spine. An impossible to mushroom front, with power and durability that is unheard of. Ready for this, it is +/- 0.0005 concentric with the precision 100 g stainless field point that come standard! Then you will have the choice of Q, J, D and V style firenock, not to mention the old standard of C and F style nock to use too. May be I should not even come out till I finish Aerovane III... LOL No one need a 550 fps ready bolt as of now, but may be sometime next year.

Edited by firenock, 20 August 2011 - 11:06 PM.

[crappie-tom]

firenock, on 16 August 2011 - 12:15 AM, said:

That is because in order for me to start selling it readily, I have to get a few patent filed. I am very closed to done that. I also have the insert and the point made already. Yes, it is stainless at the front and "XXXX" on the back and weight 110 grains. So, no one besides a few that swear secrecy had access to it. And yes, Q and J nock are also ready. I am just waiting for all to fall into places before I open the flood gate!

Imagine a bolt with 220 to 250 spine back, 50 - 70 front, not is WAY stiff compare to laser II's even 300 spine. An impossible to mushroom front, with power and durability that is unheard of. Ready for this, it is +/- 0.0005 concentric! Then you will have the choice of Q, J, D and V style firenock, not to mention the old standard of C and F style nock to use too. May be I should not even come out till I finish Aerovane III... LOL No one need a 550 fps ready bolt as of now, but may be sometime next year.

Hi Dorge

Since I asked, Put my name in for the first allocation. I"d like to try out your hard work.

Let me know when I can drink the kool-aid.

c-t

[firenock]

They are here now and I can tune the weight and spine in any way you want. Just remember, the lighter it gets, the less strong it is due to less material. All of them will be at least 250 spine and I can make it as light as 380grain with the 100 grain point on a 22" with a plain Firenock Q, J, D or V style. What I discover is that the 26" is a better shooter, as it is what I offer the Tac if you have a longer power stroke. if you want a 22, I can always cut 2 " off before I fletch!

[crappie-tom]

or 4" ? Do you have the Aerovane 3's in yet?

Edited by crappie-tom, 04 January 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[firenock]

crappie-tom, on 04 January 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

or 4" ? Do you have the Aerovane 3's in yet?

Not yet, and i am not sure anyone need it as it is going to be quite a demanding vane to use. Not many crossbow can shot it due to the winglet and thus the width of the rail is going to be tricky. Did I mention it would work best for most archery projectile in the 360fps and up for 22" and shorter projectile?

[Lightfoot]

firenock, on 05 January 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Not yet, and i am not sure anyone need it as it is going to be quite a demanding vane to use. Not many crossbow can shot it due to the winglet and thus the width of the rail is going to be tricky. Did I mention it would work best for most archery projectile in the 360fps and up for 22" and shorter projectile?

Perhaps you should talk to a crossbow company about making a special bow for those special arrows. The AeroBow. Not for fainthearted LOL.

[Mim]

Have anyone tried Aerobolt 2 with Scorpyd RDT 165? How did they perform ?

Edited by Mim, 05 January 2012 - 01:21 PM.

[firenock]

Mim, on 05 January 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Have anyone tried Aerobolt 2 with Scorpyd RDT 165? How did they perform?

You should ask Jim at Scorpyd with that question as he is the first one who shots them? He shall be carrying them on his regular offering list very soon.

Edited by firenock, 05 January 2012 - 03:46 PM.

[crappie-tom]

firenock, on 05 January 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Not yet, and i am not sure anyone need it as it is going to be quite a demanding vane to use. Not many crossbow can shot it due to the winglet and thus the width of the rail is going to be tricky. Did I mention it would work best for most archery projectile in the 360fps and up for 22" and shorter projectile?

If I remember right you said don't bother with them unless your shooting over 400 fps. That's why I've been waiting for them. Which Aerovane do you think is going to perform better out of my 165? I thought it would be the Aerovane3.
c-t

[firenock]

Aerovane 3 may not work well due to that 3.2 mm winglet. The rail on the bow may become an issue. Therefore I think Aerovane 2 is going to be the ticket for the current RDT 165. When Jim one day make a railless ones or a very wide gap RDTXXX, then Aerovane 3 may be a batter choice!

Edited by firenock, 20 January 2012 - 05:54 PM.

[445 supermag]

I have 3 of Dorge's masterpieces. While I would like to give you more input into accuracy but with my 165 I only have a Hawke MAP so you know its not optimal for accuracy. I also have NOT done a lot of shooting with these arrows as of yet. Time constraints on me at the present time don't allow much time to shoot.

But I will say that so far with my accuracy its excellent but what is good for me might not be good for you. Again I have to say that I am using the MAP hawke scope...

I also am NOT shooting at the same spot to check accuracy in groups. I can only give you a guess on what I am getting so please take that for what its worth.

My Hawke Map scope is sighted in at 30 for the first circle then its 45. 55. 70 yards

At 70 yards I would GUESS I am in the under 3" groups at that range. But again using MAP and not bench rest only a pillow for a rest. SO not ideal to give it a real test run to see its full potential.

But for me I am very happy with the results and will be ordering more in the near future after holiday bills are taken care of. I also got the 26" shaft but think my next ones I order will be the 22" ers.

I can only imagine you guys with higher power scopes can do with them.

Brian

[deerboy]

firenock, on 05 January 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

You should ask Jim at Scorpyd with that question as he is the first one who shots them? He shall be carrying them on his regular offering list very soon.

If Jim / Rex are smart they'll just lend or give you one do you can do your own testing.

[MrScorpyd]

Actually, the Aerovane III WILL work on our existing barrel, we have a very wide arrow track.

[firenock]

After verifying that with Jim's new and existing bow barrel, I concur. I did some measuring of the barrels. The width of Scorpyd's barrel gap is no less than 0.208"/5.25mm, and widest point of Aerovane III is 3.52mm. It is not an issue as Jim stated. Thank you Jim for correcting my faulty assumption.

Edited by firenock, 20 January 2012 - 05:55 PM.