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#1 Super 91

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:07 PM

Guys I know a number of you have been following some of these threads and I have a ton of mods I am working on and will be testing most of them tomorrow.  I will try to take some pics and show you guys what I have been up to.  

Most of the mods are to make the TAC-15 more user friendly and hunter friendly.  I have a very nice quiver bracket that is right and left handed but won't be done till next week.

I have improved the bracket for the QAD HDX that some of you guys have to make it easier to adjust and not touch the riser and give the pull rope plenty of room to work properly.

I also added a T/C Encore Pro Hunter forearm that makes the crossbow even more comfortable to hold than ever before.  

I had Jesse at Viper-X string make me a set of cool strings and cables that should stay together better than factory.

I also am going to try some PTFE tape on the bottom of the string stop rails so that the cables do not get as worn by the machine marks left on the rail.

I am replacing the rubber string stops with much better quality ones.

I added split limb savers Quads or something like that.

I cut the Picatinny rail back and will be shooting three fletch.

I installed the Timney aftermarket trigger which I really like, but I will be trying a Jewel trigger just for comparison.  

I'm sure there is a few things I am not listing here and will do so once I get out and do some shooting tomorrow.

If these mods work well, I will be offering them for sale possibly.
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:13 AM

You have just copied what everbody else has allready done goood job......

View PostSuper 91, on 23 September 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

Guys I know a number of you have been following some of these threads and I have a ton of mods I am working on and will be testing most of them tomorrow.  I will try to take some pics and show you guys what I have been up to.  

Most of the mods are to make the TAC-15 more user friendly and hunter friendly.  I have a very nice quiver bracket that is right and left handed but won't be done till next week.

I have improved the bracket for the QAD HDX that some of you guys have to make it easier to adjust and not touch the riser and give the pull rope plenty of room to work properly.

I also added a T/C Encore Pro Hunter forearm that makes the crossbow even more comfortable to hold than ever before.  

I had Jesse at Viper-X string make me a set of cool strings and cables that should stay together better than factory.

I also am going to try some PTFE tape on the bottom of the string stop rails so that the cables do not get as worn by the machine marks left on the rail.

I am replacing the rubber string stops with much better quality ones.

I added split limb savers Quads or something like that.

I cut the Picatinny rail back and will be shooting three fletch.

I installed the Timney aftermarket trigger which I really like, but I will be trying a Jewel trigger just for comparison.  

I'm sure there is a few things I am not listing here and will do so once I get out and do some shooting tomorrow.

If these mods work well, I will be offering them for sale possibly.




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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:56 AM

And your point is?  Was this a helpful post?  I not only copied some things, but I have been talking about doing these with many of those that already have done them for over a year and had suggested doing them before anyone else had done them!  I have just been tied up with many other projects and have not had the time to devote to making the changes I suggested to many others.  

What I have copied I have refined and fixed things that did not work properly.  Have YOU done any of these mods?  Did they work right out of the box like say the T/C forearm?  No, I guess they didn't.  There are steps to take to make them work without fear of failing.  

Has ANYONE put PTFE tape on the bottom of the rails so their cables would last longer?

Limbsavers have been around forever.  All I am doing is including what I am doing to my particular TAC.  

Ask bski about cutting the rail off.  We talked about that over a year ago.  He knows I've been tied up and when it was suggested to others that had the time and the resources, they did it.  Many would not just because they did not want to chop up a $1600 crossbow and possibly void the warranty.  

There are things about the Jewel trigger that might be an asset to TAC-15i users that you are not aware of.  I am not going to post any of this until I test my theory.  

I am here to help other TAC owners.  If you want to blow smoke my way that is fine, I prefer you do so in pm's rather than directly on the forum.  Thank you.
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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:43 AM

View PostSuper 91, on 24 September 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:

And your point is?  Was this a helpful post?  I not only copied some things, but I have been talking about doing these with many of those that already have done them for over a year and had suggested doing them before anyone else had done them!  I have just been tied up with many other projects and have not had the time to devote to making the changes I suggested to many others.  

What I have copied I have refined and fixed things that did not work properly.  Have YOU done any of these mods?  Did they work right out of the box like say the T/C forearm?  No, I guess they didn't.  There are steps to take to make them work without fear of failing.  

Has ANYONE put PTFE tape on the bottom of the rails so their cables would last longer?

Limbsavers have been around forever.  All I am doing is including what I am doing to my particular TAC.  

Ask bski about cutting the rail off.  We talked about that over a year ago.  He knows I've been tied up and when it was suggested to others that had the time and the resources, they did it.  Many would not just because they did not want to chop up a $1600 crossbow and possibly void the warranty.  

There are things about the Jewel trigger that might be an asset to TAC-15i users that you are not aware of.  I am not going to post any of this until I test my theory.  

I am here to help other TAC owners.  If you want to blow smoke my way that is fine, I prefer you do so in pm's rather than directly on the forum.  Thank you.

Hi Guys,
I know this is going to be unpopular, but I'm going to have to throw a bucket of water on everybody's behavior on this forum!

Super 91, we both know that the development of new customizations for these crossbows couldn't have advanced the way that it has without your testing and custom machining work. The problem is that you're getting defensive when many of the other members of the forum have between little and no understanding of the fact that a number of us have all been working on a number of these things during the coarse of the last year.

I'll take the hit for their lack of understanding, since I've never written an article of any type to explain what we stated a year ago. For the record, I stated that my belief was that as we participate and freely share information and technical experience amongst ourselves and with all other forum members, everybody gets smarter and therefore everybody advances in their knowledge and skill sets.

Since that time, we've had many members who have openly spent many hours collaborating with us through this and other forums, via e-mail and endless hours spent on phone calls as well. I don't think there's much, if any testing, that I've done over this period of time that Super 91 and one or two other members have not been aware of and involved to a large degrees. I know for a fact that even as you were in the middle of building and extension on your house (Super 91), we were still collaborating on everything from my test results to new and upcoming technical modifications that were needed to achieve better shooting performance results.

We've had members come to us with all types of problems, questions and possible ideas. Some of the better ones, we've taken and turned their ideas into realities. Others, we've proven through solid engineering testing and isolation why they aren't as good as initially proposed. We've jointly tested almost every decent manufactures products to provide our members with the goods and the bad points with these products, in an effort to prevent them from wasting their hard earned money on things that don't live up to manufactures claims.

My guess is that it appears that sometimes all we are doing is copying what somebody else has already figured out, but we want to write about it as though we originated the ideas.

My request, is that you drop the issue. I understand how it can get very sensitive, especially when we're putting in the type of hours, efforts and costs it takes to do this stuff, but remember that it's like an Iceberg, because 90 percent of it is underwater, therefore it can't easily be noticed or seen to those who are not tuned into it.

Authur,
Please try to refrain from the criticism on the forum because it's negatively productive and doesn't reflect the way in which most of the work and development results have taken place on the TAC15 product line.

Today, there are more people than ever who have graciously agreed to participate and get off the sidelines in these forums. The forum went from a useless pile of junk topics that supplied very little useful information over a year ago, to now containing a great deal of very useful technical information that most TAC owners can really use and relate to.

I realize that there was no ill intent in your comment to Super 91, but he has so many people coming to him for information or custom modifications to their crossbows, arrows, fletching vises and now arrow rests, that it hurts when somebody accuses him of copying the work of others.

The only time he does anything with other peoples work, is when he's going to add some new feature / functions that will improve the product in a major way. I can attest to this first hand since I've spent countless hours on the phone with him covering many of these modifications and ideas, in detail with him. I know that many other members have worked with Super 91 to gleam the benefits of his work. BSKI, WildWillie, Quadkiller and countless others have all been in close contact with him a number of times because of his thorough testing and analysis that have yielded fact based results, instead of just opinions.

What most readers don't know or realize is the fact that both of us are sometimes very busy and way overloaded and may not have time to write up the results of some of the more detailed testing and analysis work that we're involved with. On these occasions we often still communicate by phone with each other and as such, we will ask each other if the other one can get our latest information out to the forum thread, so the members can get the latest updates.

I happen to know for a fact that WildWillie, will be publishing a new thread on the forum that is unbelievably good. Although the work is all his, Super 91 was involved in some of the collaboration and technical assistance that went into it's production.

This has become a very solid working forum of TAC crossbow owners who all have a great deal to offer and it seems they enjoy helping each other. You all seem to offer each other ideas and technical help any time somebody posts a new problem they're experiencing, so again my suggestion is for everybody to be a little less sensitive and refrain from the negative remarks. Let's all try to act like the subject matter experts that we've become and not reduce ourselves to a bunch of bickering women.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 04:17 AM

Super 91, keep up the stirling work. I absolutely love reading what you are up to. You have saved me so much coin by learning from all your success and failures. Thankyou and keep it comming.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:53 AM

View Posttoyota, on 01 October 2011 - 04:17 AM, said:

Super 91, keep up the stirling work. I absolutely love reading what you are up to. You have saved me so much coin by learning from all your success and failures. Thankyou and keep it comming.
Hey Super 91,
If I didn't know better I'd think you were developing a fan club or something!  Not bad for a lazy guy.:thumbsu:


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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:27 PM

Never used a QAD drop away. New owner of a PSeTAC-15i. Have had several Barnetts and Bottoms. I just pulled the QAD out of the box but not sure how to install. Seen a vid on Youtube that sucked and saw a nice long write up with some pics but still a bit confusing. The 15 shoots pretty good with the whisker biscuit but looking for more continuity.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:57 PM

You know you need the specialized mounting bracket?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

Super 91 if you're in Texas gimme a hollar.  I'd love to interview you and post this for the world to see.  Your ideas (may I suggest) are best if posted in a vid of some sort. If pics are a thousand words then vids (well thought out and properly edited) are worth a million. OR if you're near an airport that services Southwest I'd consider that too just to get the word out about your excellent work. Thanks a million.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:40 PM

I bought one from Long Range Hunting. Was modified for the TAC 15 and fit with ease. Whisker biscuit was fine as well and holds the arrow better during early cranking. You will have to use string and tie the rope to the cable. It is fairly east.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:40 AM

View Postmigjunkie, on 28 January 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

I bought one from Long Range Hunting. Was modified for the TAC 15 and fit with ease. Whisker biscuit was fine as well and holds the arrow better during early cranking. You will have to use string and tie the rope to the cable. It is fairly east.
Hi Migjunkie,
I'm not sure if anybody ever told you that when using the QAD Drop Away Style Arrow Rest that you need to cock the QAD into the 80 degree load position before you begin cranking the crossbow back. It's the same when using the QAD on a compound bow.

This cocked position traps the arrow between the left and right side of the forks and prevents the arrow from escaping from either side or the top. Without pre loading the rest an arrow can slide off either side of the crossbow. The remaining 10% of the rest positioning isn't attained until you reach the full draw position.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:51 AM

Gotcha. The arrow was sliding all over the place. My bad. I put the Whisker Biscuit back on and zero'd it with the HHA. Hate to re-mess with it now.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:46 PM

Sorry I have not been on here in a while.  Lots of family things going on (Dad not doing the best.  Hospice will be starting Monday) kitchen addition not to mention hunting season.  Hope everyone is doing well.  I'll be back more once things settle down more for me.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

Hope all goes well until your return.

We'll do our best to keep things going until then.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 06:50 AM

Kitchen addition is on hold while I take care of the family so my main focus will be there.  I hope to be on here a little more than I have been over the past few months.  I miss being here!
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:51 AM

View PostSuper 91, on 04 February 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry I have not been on here in a while.  Lots of family things going on (Dad not doing the best.  Hospice will be starting Monday) kitchen addition not to mention hunting season.  Hope everyone is doing well.  I'll be back more once things settle down more for me.

Glad to see you back Super 91. Hope everything works out for the family.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:35 PM

View PostSuper 91, on 04 February 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry I have not been on here in a while.  Lots of family things going on (Dad not doing the best.  Hospice will be starting Monday) kitchen addition not to mention hunting season.  Hope everyone is doing well.  I'll be back more once things settle down more for me.

Welcome back Super 91, I hope everything goes well with you family.

Edited by pacrossbow_, 07 February 2012 - 03:23 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:46 PM

View Postpacrossbow_, on 07 February 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:



Welcoe back Super 91, I hope everything goes well with you family.

Man, I've been there Super! My father and family went thru this in 2003. Still tough to talk about it. Praying for your family....

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:09 PM

Thanks everyone.  It is what you are born to do, take care of your family and those you love.
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