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[firenock]

Updates.  My supplier just gave me delivery confirmation, not in my hand today.  So I have to delay the entire production and shipping schedule by at least 3 days.  Sorry for the delay.  Lucikly I have US supplier so it is only 3 days away at worst, but it is over a week end.

[firenock]

THERY ARE here, all back order should be out today and they are ready go out fletched base on the color you picked or our standard (white, yellow and red)!

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Edited by firenock, 13 December 2011 - 01:05 PM.

[H&S Archer]

I just ordered some of the 22" Bolts from you today and am looking forward to testing them.

[firenock]

I took few pictures here is what is looked like after the fletching and AeroPoint 300 on it.

[deerboy]

firenock, on 14 December 2011 - 01:51 PM, said:

I took few pictures here is what is looked like after the fletching and AeroPoint 300 on it.

hmmmn... how will the fletching hold up coming out of a TAC Whisker Biscuit? Do you know? I'm really tired of getting my TAC10 arrow vanes getting amputated about every 10 shots.

- BUT... If I buy yours and use the same vanes you use I am thinking perhaps to simply re-fletch OR use the blazer "arrow wraps" with fletching already attached.  (Sigh! thinking out loud): It's sort of a pain to have to figure all this out...If I could just get my TAC setup with a QAD arrow rest I wouldn't really be having this problem.

Edited by deerboy, 15 December 2011 - 09:01 AM.

[firenock]

deerboy, on 15 December 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

hmmmn... how will the fletching hold up coming out of a TAC Whisker Biscuit? Do you know? I'm really tired of getting my TAC10 arrow vanes getting amputated about every 10 shots.

- BUT... If I buy yours and use the same vanes you use I am thinking perhaps to simply re-fletch OR use the blazer "arrow wraps" with fletching already attached.  (Sigh! thinking out loud): It's sort of a pain to have to figure all this out...If I could just get my TAC setup with a QAD arrow rest I wouldn't really be having this problem.

With Aerovane, which is 92 durometer hardness, and the more wear out the biscuit it is, the better it shots!  Until you get my AeroRest...
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Yes, Firenock new rest for any archery projectile.
http://www.firenock....p?page=AeroRest

[crappie-tom]

firenock, on 15 December 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

With Aerovane, which is 92 durometer hardness, and the more wear out the biscuit it is, the better it shots!  Until you get my AeroRest...
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Yes, Firenock new rest for any archery projectile.
http://www.firenock....p?page=AeroRest

I hope that new micro adjust rest comes standard on my 2012 xbow Dorge.    How do you dream this stuff up? I'm glad you take attention to detail to a new level.
Thanks
c-t

[deerboy]

firenock, on 15 December 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

With Aerovane, which is 92 durometer hardness, and the more wear out the biscuit it is, the better it shots!  Until you get my AeroRest...
...
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Yes, Firenock new rest for any archery projectile.
http://www.firenock....p?page=AeroRest

ok ok I surrender you've got all the answers... I just need to buy. Thanks Dorge.  

Edited by deerboy, 15 December 2011 - 10:05 PM.

[crappie-tom]

HMMM!
c-t

Edited by crappie-tom, 16 December 2011 - 03:26 PM.

[firenock]

Many people may have missed this.
http://www.firenock....?page=faqs#29_3

[29_3] Why does my Firenock D feel loose on the Aerobolt 2?
    Firenock Aerobolt 2 is indeed design with the Tac arrow in mind as it comes in 26".   The Tac 15 arrow has an internal diameter of 0.298" and the Aerobolt 2 has an internal diameter of 0.300".   Since most Tac owner may want to use the D nock on their PSE Tac arrows, the nock will feel super tight on them, but when it is inserted into the Aerobolt 2, it may feel a little lose due to the larger ID of Aerobolt 2.   You can use a tiny drop of super glue to secure the nock if you feel it is too loose inside the AeroBolt 2.   Use just enough to hold the nock in, but not so much you cannot use force to break it free when you want to change the battery or the nock.
    Firenock V, Q, J, although looks like the D style nock, they are all design to fit the 0.300" internal ID shaft with just above finger tightness.

[xbow755]

firenock, on 31 December 2011 - 12:15 AM, said:

Many people may have missed this.
http://www.firenock....?page=faqs#29_3

[29_3] Why does my Firenock D feel loose on the Aerobolt 2?
    Firenock Aerobolt 2 is indeed design with the Tac arrow in mind as it comes in 26".   The Tac 15 arrow has an internal diameter of 0.298" and the Aerobolt 2 has an internal diameter of 0.300".   Since most Tac owner may want to use the D nock on their PSE Tac arrows, the nock will feel super tight on them, but when it is inserted into the Aerobolt 2, it may feel a little lose due to the larger ID of Aerobolt 2.   You can use a tiny drop of super glue to secure the nock if you feel it is too loose inside the AeroBolt 2.   Use just enough to hold the nock in, but not so much you cannot use force to break it free when you want to change the battery or the nock.
    Firenock V, Q, J, although looks like the D style nock, they are all design to fit the 0.300" internal ID shaft with just above finger tightness.

Hi Dorge,
Everybody looking to purchase a set of Aerobolt II's should be aware that it's very important that the "Firenock D's fit a little bit loose and require a drop of cement.  This is the only way you have to balance the weight of each shaft across the dozen or half dozen you purchase.

If using an electronic Gram Scale, set on "Grains" you want to measure the weight of each arrow and record it on a piece of paper. You should be weighing down to the hundreds column. This is represented by 000.00 (two places after the decimal point). Once you've weighted and listed each arrow, you will need to begin with the heaviest arrow in the group. To this arrow, you will add the smallest amount of glue possible. Then re-weigh it. Whatever the final weight is write it down because next you will be adding only enough glue to each subsequent arrow to match this weight as closely as possible. I would recommend using a slow setting glue that you can easily slide in and back out of the arrow shaft until you've achieved the desired weight. Once you have it at the desired weight, you can set the shaft aside until it's completely dry and ready for use.

This is a slow process, but once completed all arrows will be within 2 or 3 one hundreds of a grain of each other. This will provide a perfectly matched set of arrows for your crossbow.

If the nocks were to tight, it would be much more difficult to perform this weight balancing step.

Regards,

Xbow755

Edited by xbow755, 01 January 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[crappie-tom]

xbow 755   Have you tried any longer range shots with these?  If so, How did they perform?  I haven't seen any comments on the end results from using them yet.
Thanks
c-t

[xbow755]

crappie-tom, on 01 January 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

xbow 755   Have you tried any longer range shots with these?  If so, How did they perform?  I haven't seen any comments on the end results from using them yet.
Thanks
c-t

Hi Crappie Tom,
The longest I've been able to thoroughly test these shafts to date is only 80 yards and the results have been stellar.  The arrows have been extremely consistent so once these arrows are tuned to your crossbow each and every arrow performs like a piece of matched ammo in a gun.  

I can't test any longer shots because I'm living in the North Eastern United States, so getting still days with no wind is difficult at this time of year.  The only small caveat I've been able to identify is that it will be necessary for anybody purchasing these shafts to re-paper tune your crossbow. This is because the dynamic spine of the new arrows are quite different than the PSE TAC15 Arrow Shafts that you've originally tuned your crossbow to.  

I can't and won't discuss any problems anybody might encounter if they're still using the Whisker Biscuit Rest on their crossbow because it alone will cause deviations and inconsistent flight problems. Once you get past those issues, these arrows should fly more consistent, with much tighter grouping than anything you've every seen before.

The negative factor with these shafts is once you start using them it becomes hard to go back to anything else, but they're expensive, so I don't own as many as I would like. I guess I should also state for the record to make sure you purchase the points and inserts when you get the arrows because your not going to find off the shelf components that fit these arrow shafts.

Regards,

Xbow755

[crappie-tom]

xbow755, on 05 January 2012 - 02:23 AM, said:

Hi Crappie Tom,
The longest I've been able to thoroughly test these shafts to date is only 80 yards and the results have been stellar.  The arrows have been extremely consistent so once these arrows are tuned to your crossbow each and every arrow performs like a piece of matched ammo in a gun.  

I can't test any longer shots because I'm living in the North Eastern United States, so getting still days with no wind is difficult at this time of year.  The only small caveat I've been able to identify is that it will be necessary for anybody purchasing these shafts to re-paper tune your crossbow. This is because the dynamic spine of the new arrows are quite different than the PSE TAC15 Arrow Shafts that you've originally tuned your crossbow to.  

I can't and won't discuss any problems anybody might encounter if they're still using the Whisker Biscuit Rest on their crossbow because it alone will cause deviations and inconsistent flight problems. Once you get past those issues, these arrows should fly more consistent, with much tighter grouping than anything you've every seen before.

The negative factor with these shafts is once you start using them it becomes hard to go back to anything else, but they're expensive, so I don't own as many as I would like. I guess I should also state for the record to make sure you purchase the points and inserts when you get the arrows because your not going to find off the shelf components that fit these arrow shafts.

Regards,

Xbow755

Thanks for the heads up xbow755.  I already have $500 in arrows so, what's a little more.lol   I'm going to try 3 Aerobolt2's with Aerovane2  and, 3 Aerobolt2's with Aerovane3's and, 3 of C-T's homemade arrows.    The winner of the bunch will be the one I stick with.
Are you saying we can't screw in say any NAP broadhead into Dorges arrows?   Does Dorge have his own broadheads yet?
Thanks for the info
c-t

[firenock]

You can sure screw in any broadhead you wanted.  The system I design will work with technically anything in the maker.  The question is how well.  The AeroPoint system eliminates all the play one got with the field point and alignment issues.  With Aerovane, due to high rotation speed, most radial blade broadheads will not fly well.  NAP's nightmare, thunderhead edge, SplitFirenock 3 blade are the few that I know will fly well due to the design of the broadhead from NAP.  You will see broadhead company that have license the design and use on their broadhead (it will be called FASC ( (Firenock Aero System Compliant).  With AeroRest, I believe the AeroBolt 3 and FASC points and broadhead will for sure be the best, but many will work too!  In most cases, only the ones who want to really reach OUT and do some ventilation on windy days need this level of equipment.  In my case, knowing I can pull my release and drop that deer at 45 yard with 30 mph wind is what I went out to do.  And it only take one nice 10 point with perfect spread standing 45 yard in front of me with wind and snow blowing; I stand there with bow in hand once was all the motivation I ever needed after 4 days of a 5 days hunt waiting for the moment and can do nothing about it on a draw hunt in Volo borg Illinois 5 year ago.  Did I mention that was the same place when an owl flew in front of my face, (less than 10 inches) and I cannot hear it at all!  It is a small owl, and it end up perching less than 3 feet from me and checking me out in my tree lounge 1/2 an hours before legal hunting time; an hour before sun up.

[xbow755]

crappie-tom, on 05 January 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

Thanks for the heads up xbow755.  I already have $500 in arrows so, what's a little more.lol   I'm going to try 3 Aerobolt2's with Aerovane2  and, 3 Aerobolt2's with Aerovane3's and, 3 of C-T's homemade arrows.    The winner of the bunch will be the one I stick with.
Are you saying we can't screw in say any NAP broadhead into Dorges arrows?   Does Dorge have his own broadheads yet?
Thanks for the info
c-t

Hi C-T,
The Spitfire mechanical broadheads in an 85 grain or the same head in a 100 grain should shoot very well from these shafts. I'm not ruling out any of the others, I just can't recommend what I haven't tested or tuned on my crossbow. It seems the two mechanicals that I just mentioned shoot so identical to the field points that there's no noticeable deviation.

When I was hunting and setting up my TAC15i for hunting this year, I was using only TAC15 arrows with 100 Grain Phat Heads and G-5 Montec Striker 100's in a 3 blade configurations. I used the Phat Heads on 4 vane TAC arrows and the G-5's on three vane TAC arrows. My experimenting with the Aerobolts came along at the end of the season, but I did not use them in the woods as of yet.

Super 91 had great results with the Spitefire mechanical s, so I decided to get a few and do some testing with them. To date I've been quite pleased since I'm always looking for a reliable mechanical head that will perform exactly like my field points. These have fit that bill so far.

I hope this helps sort out some of the questions.

Regards,

Xbow755