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#1 hunter115

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 12:59 PM

Ok, I need to know what is the best target for shooting broadheads, even the practice heads. My problem is that my arrows are sinking so deep that it has ruffled my fletching. Its a block 4x4 bow target. I like shooting the practice heads so I can be consistent but dang nabit, they aint stopping. The TAC 15 is pure power.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:39 PM

To date, you want only the Rheinhart Rhino Brute to stop a fast broadhead and, limit your grief. It stops a Scorpyd 165 which has more pure power. I've tried the Block fusion for 400+ fps xbows, and the Rheinhart Rhino block xl.  The Brute works the best.

For field points there are other options.  I don't know if that's what you are calling your practice heads? For field points I use the white Morrel bone collector target and, several other Morrel targets. Easy arrow removal, great targets to shoot at,long lasting and ~$70.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 08:16 PM

For field point work, try the Spyderweb targets.  I use the Block 4x4 for broadhead work.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:34 AM

Hi super, hunter115 already said he was using a block target and, wants the best target for broadheads that he can get today. My opinion of a block is they are just not for fast crossbows unless you use mechanicals. Mechanicals penetrate a target far less than fixed blades in all cases I have experienced. Pulling arrows from a Block is not easy.  The Brute will stop fixed blades before the vanes and, provides easier arrow removal.

I really don't get the Spiderweb targets at all. I've been looking for ONE good reason to buy one and try it out. A quote from Buckeye Outfitter: "My 165 pounded the crap out of my Spiderweb" keeps coming back to me as the primary reason I pobably won't be trying one out. As well as only 2 sides to shoot at, price and, I don't think I would like aiming at the little spiders.  I've been chatting the spiderweb target with many people on here over the last year.  Nobody has given me one good reason to spend my money for one.  All spiderweb owners have said they are the best field point targets, I am still waiting to hear why from someone who shoots alot?

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 09:10 PM

How about one reason.  They were the ONLY target at all the shooting lanes at the ATA show last Jan.  They were taking Scorpyd 165 shots at 15 feet all day long no problems.  I have thousands of shots from my PSE on mine and it shows almost zero signs of wear.  Arrow removal is two fingers.  Target face splits and heals nicely.  I like killing spiders.  What other good reasons are you looking for?  It is just a good target.  I keep mine covered and feel it will last 10+ years with lots of shooting as I shoot a pretty fair amount all year with lots of different bows.

I shoot the Block 4x4 on the long side for broadheads and I shoot mechanical heads as well as fixed heads and have no problem stopping them or with removal.  Field points is another story.  That is why I got the Sypderweb 2.5.  I also have the Rinehart block and 18-1.  I like them as well and they do fine I just like a larger area to shoot at on the 4x4.  I was not recommending the 4x4 to him as I read that is what he had.  I merely posted what I use personally.  Take it for what its worth.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:38 AM

Now that's the first post regarding the Syderwebs that has substance.  Thousands of shots with zero signs of wear means alot to me.  I believe BO had the Spyderweb 1.5 that he had issues with.   The ata part, well could that be that more than likely they where donated from a new company promoting their product ?  Kinda like bows for shows that erks me even more.  The problem is that I have never seen one in person anywhere. Any pro shop in a 75 mile radius or in large merchants that cover the US.  Thanks for your input, I"ll  look to check the 2.5 out.
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 10:28 AM

Hi Everyone,
I thought I would put in my 2cents. I have the morrel bone target(bag)that has some wear on it. Shooting the tac15 at closer distances with field points, I was going as deep as the fletching occasionally. I decided to get the Spiderweb 2.5    The target cost me $135    I have only about 120 to 140 shots at the spider side of the target so far. I was having a very difficult time (I mean a very difficult time)getting my arrows out of the target while paper tuning. The arrows would only go in 3 to 4 inches which is exactly what I wanted (no more ruined fletching). I noticed that I was getting some residual coating on my arrow when I removed it from the target. Some of the residual was bluish in color due to the blue spiders printed on the target face. I would just use my fingernails to scratch the residual of the arrow while walking back to the shooting bench. I am wondering if the target will loosen up some when it begins to break in? I have the big Delta buck with the block insert that I use for shooting broadheads into. I use that target for both my compound and xbow. I only shoot broadheads at that target and have no problem stopping the arrows even from my Tac15, but the target insert is fairly new. The target insert can also be rotated to extend the wear and use of it. I am very happy with the setup I have now, just hoping the spiderweb target loosens up a bit so arrow removal will be easier.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:18 PM

View Postcrappie-tom, on 30 October 2011 - 08:38 AM, said:

Now that's the first post regarding the Syderwebs that has substance.  Thousands of shots with zero signs of wear means alot to me.  I believe BO had the Spyderweb 1.5 that he had issues with.   The ata part, well could that be that more than likely they where donated from a new company promoting their product ?  Kinda like bows for shows that erks me even more.  The problem is that I have never seen one in person anywhere. Any pro shop in a 75 mile radius or in large merchants that cover the US.  Thanks for your input, I"ll  look to check the 2.5 out.
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I know what you mean about company promotion and all that, but the ATA people would not have picked something that did not perform because you have shooting lanes all the way around the show.  No room for error here.  

As far as having a hard time getting the arrow out of the target, I have never had any issues with mine.  I did have some of the interior fiber "weld" themselves in small bits to the shaft when I shot it at 10-15 feet, but once I back up to 20 yards I have never had an issue.  Does it do it everywhere on the target or just one spot?
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Posted 30 October 2011 - 07:21 PM

Super91,
I'm sorry if my post wasn't clear. Yes the only time I have a real hard time getting the arrow out of the spider target was when I was paper tuning. The target was only about 15 feet from me. The normal ranges from 15 to 60 yards are much easier to get the arrow out. I want to state that it is still not 2 finger removal, but it does get easier the farther you put the target out. I am a big fan of these spider targets though, they stop the Tac arrow like nobodys buisness!

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:58 AM

View PostSuper 91, on 29 October 2011 - 09:10 PM, said:

How about one reason.  They were the ONLY target at all the shooting lanes at the ATA show last Jan.  They were taking Scorpyd 165 shots at 15 feet all day long no problems.  I have thousands of shots from my PSE on mine and it shows almost zero signs of wear.  Arrow removal is two fingers.  Target face splits and heals nicely.  I like killing spiders.  What other good reasons are you looking for?  It is just a good target.  I keep mine covered and feel it will last 10+ years with lots of shooting as I shoot a pretty fair amount all year with lots of different bows.

I shoot the Block 4x4 on the long side for broadheads and I shoot mechanical heads as well as fixed heads and have no problem stopping them or with removal.  Field points is another story.  That is why I got the Sypderweb 2.5.  I also have the Rinehart block and 18-1.  I like them as well and they do fine I just like a larger area to shoot at on the 4x4.  I was not recommending the 4x4 to him as I read that is what he had.  I merely posted what I use personally.  Take it for what its worth.

I've been shopping around... The Block for Xbows is rated at 400+ but bolts from my Telson 130 (390 fps) are difficult to remove (I'm lazy).  

Super, what's the difference between 1.5 and 2.5? The advertisements aren't very clear.  I think the 1.5 is an excellent value at 107 from Sportsmans Guide yes?

Edited by deerboy, 06 December 2011 - 11:49 AM.

Parker Safari Classic (150lb) Hawke MAP scope + 400 grain arrows = 326 fps
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2011 Telson (Scorpyd) 130lb - 19.75in powerstroke, + Hawke SR scope = 390.2 fps with 400 grain arrows
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:33 AM

Mainly just the size of the target face.  1.5 feet vs 2.5 feet square.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:08 AM

View PostSuper 91, on 07 December 2011 - 07:33 AM, said:

Mainly just the size of the target face.  1.5 feet vs 2.5 feet square.

What do you suggest? I'm thinking back to how optimistic I've been in the past when shooting vert bow thinking I would never miss... oops! Shuda got the bigger Target! Even just an occasional miss adds up to a decent expense in arrows when I'm shooting alot.  I guess I answered my own question.  :thumbsu:
Parker Safari Classic (150lb) Hawke MAP scope + 400 grain arrows = 326 fps
2008 Diamond Black Ice - 29in draw, 70lbs, "no peep", HHA Optimizer Plus = 249 fps with 429 grain arrows
2011 Telson (Scorpyd) 130lb - 19.75in powerstroke, + Hawke SR scope = 390.2 fps with 400 grain arrows
2011 TAC 10i - (vids coming shortly)
2010 TAC 15 (used) - (more vids coming shortly)
Search 'Darkhorse2reign' on YouTube

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:02 PM

Another vote for Rineheart Foam and Spyderweb Targets both are the best money can buy.

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