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[randyxx75]

Milan, I wouldn't shoot "groups" if I were you,,,, if you are going to use the stock plastic nocks, you may not realize that an arrow has hit another arrows nock , and it may be cracked, so that the next time its shot it may break and cause a dry fire!!!!!!!
Aluminum nocks or shoot seperate dots on target !!
If there are " bubbles " in the plastic  on the slide that would make me think the casting was bad , air, in it. Dave will take good care of you ! , you might want to get rubber stops replacements as well , they dont last long either, $2.50 each I think !

[milanvresk]

randyxx75, on 30 November 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

Milan, I wouldn't shoot "groups" if I were you,,,, if you are going to use the stock plastic nocks, you may not realize that an arrow has hit another arrows nock , and it may be cracked, so that the next time its shot it may break and cause a dry fire!!!!!!!
Aluminum nocks or shoot seperate dots on target !!
If there are " bubbles " in the plastic  on the slide that would make me think the casting was bad , air, in it. Dave will take good care of you ! , you might want to get rubber stops replacements as well , they dont last long either, $2.50 each I think !

Ok, thanks for advice Randy! And yes, i purchased the alum nocks already and i'll get them before i'll get slider for cables I will refletch those stryker bolts and put the alum nock on them...at distance 30m or less i don't shoot groups...today i was just looking for bolts which are group well ...and i won't do that again - i am alos getting that "third hand target" which has few dots on it ...Yes, David is a great guy! After an hour when that slider broke on my bow, he already sent me 2 new sliders to EU ..

milan.

[Moon]

I've seen no string stop damage to date, with over 300 shots on the 380 and over 450 shots on the 350. I do think  it's a good idea to keep a couple spares around though.

I personally don't use plastic nocks with any  crossbow if I can help it:-)

Edited by Moon, 04 December 2011 - 10:14 AM.

[milanvresk]

Jaj, i got those sliders today! Again, very FAST shipping, always surprise me! Thanks Wyvern creation ...So, today i spent almost whole day on shooting..broadheads I can't find the perfect one - field point accuracy. I put in the quiver Nap spitfire (1,5" 3bl) and Grim Reaper (1.3/8" 3bl). But i think the Rage-Crossbow heads (1,75" 2bl) fly great - i may stick with those. I am disappointed with NAp spitfire EDGE - i thought this is gona be my b.head, but it does not fly good - mybe i'll try tomorow again. Slick razor trick (1.1/8" 4bl) flew better than EDGE did, hmmm...

Milan.

[Moon]

It's interesting how so many of us end up  with such  different results with the same crossbow and broadhead. I'm almost reluctant to recommend any broadhead in respect to same POI as matching weight field points even though Razor Trick 100's are the closest by a good bit that I've been able to achieve.

Some variables (even using the same crossbow model and arrow shaft):

Individual arrow shaft spine difference
Broadhead alignment
Broadhead machining accuracy
Vane type
Vane placement and angle placement
Amount of glue used
Nock weight
Screw in insert not concentric
Screw in insert no aligned with shaft
Total arrow weight variations

Crossbow spec variations:

Riser/limb alignment variations- vertically and horizontally
Cam position variations
String and spec cable variations
String release claw variations
Barrel flexing
Limb stiffness/draw weight variations
Arrow retention spring/arm pressure variations
Variations in crossbow cocking
Shooting rest variations

.....and many others that are beyond my simple thinking

[milanvresk]

Jea, i've read alot of ppl got with Edge sam POI as f.tip. But mine does not ...But those b.heads was shot with standard bolt, no blazer vanes. I am still waiting to get alum nocks, than i'll try with blazers and will see if anything is gona change...

Milan.

[milanvresk]

I broke another EDGE (one blade did broke off and another did bend) - pics (i am not sure if i have a metal in my target) lol. So, today i got alum moon nocks from Wyvern and setup 8 bolts. Bolts are GT laser II, i cut those nocks from 38grains down to 27.6 grain each and i refletched with blazer vanes - little helical and off set. Tottal bolt weight is now 405 grains. And i did spent a lot of time to shooting b.heads. And i can't say much about...they'r all good for 30-40yds, but they just don't hit like f.tip does. I was shooting: Slick razor trick, Nap Edge, Rage Crossbow and grim reaper.

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From desperation i am just going to try NAP bloodrunner 2bld.

Hehe, maybe desperation did helped So, i tried it at 25yd just in case if i miss the target..but it hits just at the center. Huh, than i tried at 35yds, again - dead center. I am impressed so far...because every one said that the NAP Bloodrunner 2 bld will fly crapy. But guys, i think i found my b.head for the quiver ...And It was the only b.head today with i hurt my self heh...

And what you guys think about that b.head? Has anyone fire them out of the crossbow?
Thanks!

milan.

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[GrassyKnoll]

I like the idea of cutting off a bit of the aluminum nock

[milanvresk]

GrassyKnoll, on 08 December 2011 - 11:32 AM, said:

I like the idea of cutting off a bit of the aluminum nock

I cut them because of the FOC, i lost it a bit anyway, but it's better than nothing ...And i would not cut off more, this is the max. Just my opinion .

milan.

[Moon]

Good idea, Milan.  I'm using discontined aluminum nocks that weigh about half that of the GT aluminum nocks. I'm not super picky on exact weight FOC setups but GT's aluminum nock does not need all that length.

[milanvresk]

Well, i found it...the reason why i lost 2 NAP bloodrunners i found 2 scratches on each side of the riser (broadhead area). I think this is it (check pics). But i can't belive the blades are able to deploy just in the begining of the shoot - i mean the bow has probb. some let-off? It's not recurve...hmm So guys, be careful with 20" bolts and Bloodrunner 2bld on StrykeZone. (Using the 22" bolts will solve the problem or the propper alignment of the blades).

*The blades are much more closed in position - on the pics i deployed them with the fingers to show...

Milan.

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[milanvresk]

If some one is interested, i made a video on crossbow and bow loudness at 35 yards shooting.



milan.

[TheHun]

I actually think the crossbow is quiter but the accuracy difference definitely slants in favor of the long bow.  Thanks for making that video.  Have you spent a lot of time shooting the strykezone and is that the best accuracy you have gotten from that xbow?  It definitely shows you have definitely got your Ben Pearson bow dialed in!!!  Very impressive!

[milanvresk]

TheHun, on 10 December 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

I actually think the crossbow is quiter but the accuracy difference definitely slants in favor of the long bow.  Thanks for making that video.  Have you spent a lot of time shooting the strykezone and is that the best accuracy you have gotten from that xbow?  It definitely shows you have definitely got your Ben Pearson bow dialed in!!!  Very impressive!

The video was meant only for compare the "loudnees", not accuracy...I shot strykezone about 200times, but most of the "shooting rest", not much off-hand. You can get mucch better accuracy out of this crossbow - don't worry about that! The last shoot out of crossbow was aimed to another spot. The last 2 shoots from pearson was also aimed to another spot.

Jea, pearson is a nice bow, i like it alot...In week or so i'll put new string and cables on it and i'll get more light weight arrows, to get speed 300+

Arrows and crossbow bolts has the same fletching, same off-set

Milan.

Edited by milanvresk, 10 December 2011 - 12:37 PM.

[TheHun]

milanvresk, on 10 December 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

The video was meant only for compare the "loudnees", not accuracy...I shot strykezone about 200times, but most of the "shooting rest", not much off-hand. You can get mucch better accuracy out of this crossbow - don't worry about that! The last shoot out of crossbow was aimed to another spot. The last 2 shoots from pearson was also aimed to another spot.

Jea, pearson is a nice bow, i like it alot...In week or so i'll put new string and cables on it and i'll get more light weight arrows, to get speed 300+

Arrows and crossbow bolts has the same fletching, same off-set

Milan.

The question I have is do you have to do all kinds of fine tuning with the fletching, etc with you crossbow to get that kind of accuracy like you have with your Ben Pearson bow?

[milanvresk]

No, you don't need! The stock bolts are good enough! Besides that accuracy with pearson was luck hehe... Go to the 1st page of this thread - post 18. Just random group at 70yds (with shooting rest). Crossbow is more accurate than i am...

milan.

Edited by milanvresk, 10 December 2011 - 02:48 PM.

[thunder]

milanvresk, on 10 December 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

No, you don't need! The stock bolts are good enough! Besides that accuracy with pearson was luck hehe... Go to the 1st page of this thread - post 18. Just random group at 70yds (with shooting rest). Crossbow is more accurate than i am...

milan.

hi, just shot my 380 fresh out of the box with leapers 3x9 bugbuster scope and hha optimizer 33 yard shots 1 jnch from dead center this bow is a winner no tweaking done yet very impressive

[Ky Bob]

Two questions. Does the SZ380 shoot 20" or 22" arrows? Is there any kind of cranking type cocker that will work with the SZ380?

Edited by Ky Bob, 19 January 2012 - 06:12 PM.

[milanvresk]

StrykeZone shoot 20" bolts. You can shoot 22" as well, but they will be over the rail - riser a bit. Don't know about the cranker.



milan.