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[madarcher427]

Ive been researching crossbows for a couple of weeks now .iam leaning towards the ventilator or telson 130,along with the sz 380.I was on another web site  when i came across ta post from another guy saying that the scarped crossbows are to big to hunt with . Has anyone else experienced this?I don't have a dealer close to me with any in stock for me to shoot .Iam wondering if they are the same size as the horton vision ?

[reko]

Too big to hunt with?  Be careful what you hear on the internet, lots of bad advice and misinformation out there by people that don't know what they're talking about.  I have a Strykezone 380, one of the more compact crossbows and I'm getting a Scorpyd in the near future.  They are a bit bigger than some crossbows but it's not going to be a hindrance of any consequence while hunting.

[Redm2]

I hunted all last year with the Telson and just bought the new Ventilator which I'm waiting for. I've yet to be in a stand or ground blind where I felt it was even remotely too big. I've read that a few times and I just don't see how people get that feeling by looking at a Scorpyd bow. I would also like to note that Scorpyd has a stellar reputation and many repeat customers... That should tell you something about the product they make! You get what you pay for with Scorpyd. My experience with Scorpyd has given me reason to recommend them to anyone who is looking for a high end crossbow.

[Jetster]

Believe me my deer are just as dead with my cheap Horton than yours with a expensive Scorpyd!!!!

[Buck_Slayer]

I don't have experience with these so take my opinion for what it is...

But the Scorpyds dimensions aren't bigger than most crossbows (from my research). Especially the Ventilator. Now I have read that the Telson is kinda on the heavy side. I think around 10 or 11 lbs (with scope). Again the Ventilator is supposed to be 7.9lbs (just bow). Also reversed limbs should balance the weight more (in theory). You'll have to check their website but I'm guessing Scorpyds probally are wider than the Vision.

SZ model is a lot lighter. I'm thinking it's 6.5 to 7 lbs (not sure if that includes scope). Personally I think the SZ350 is a better deal (between 350 and 380). The draw weight on the 350 is only 135 lbs while the 380 is 165 lbs, and only 30 fps faster. The 350 would be easier to cock and less wear n tear on your limbs. I'm guessing the 350 is cheaper as well.

What I love about the Ventilator is that there is a 125 pound limb option that still produces 370 FPS with a 400gr arrow. It's light enough to be a good hunting xbow (comparing to weight of a standard rifle) and the dimensions are comparable to just about any compact xbow. I LOVE the titanium harware. This thing looks like it was built to last. I've read the Telson is very durable as well.

I'm sure you already know the HUGE price difference between SZ and Scorpyd so I won't talk about that.

Again I don't have ANY personal experience with any of these. This is just my opinions based on a lot of research.

[Jvac3]

Jetster, on 14 January 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Believe me my deer are just as dead with my cheap Horton than yours with a expensive Scorpyd!!!!

Hard to kill a deer with your vision that is still in the Box. Maybe that why your selling it to buy a new horton w/Scorpyds RDT technoligy? Remeber Jester speed at 425 fps kills the same but faster.
Back to the topic I have both a SZ380 and a scorpyd 165 and have a Ventilator on order love them both. Size to me isn't a big issue between the two crossbows.

Edited by Jvac3hunter, 14 January 2012 - 10:00 AM.

[Redm2]

Jetster, on 14 January 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Believe me my deer are just as dead with my cheap Horton than yours with a expensive Scorpyd!!!!

This doesn't have anything to do with the OP's original question... That said, quality costs money.

[Sagittarius]

Jetster, on 14 January 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Believe me my deer are just as dead with my cheap Horton than yours with a expensive Scorpyd!!!!

Jetster, why do remain on the outside looking in ?
Everone knows you come here to the Scorpyd forum because you secretly covet one.  
Just order one up and be happy.  
You need to come in out of the rain, son.    

[Jetster]

Redm2, on 14 January 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

This doesn't have anything to do with the OP's original question... That said, quality costs money.

I wish I never sold my first Vision for the 380,someone on Craigslist was out there killing deer with my used bow while I sat here reading successful hunts while I had a brand new Xbow that was worth-less!!!!!!!!

[Jetster]

Sagittarius, on 14 January 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Jetster, why do remain on the outside looking in ?
Everone knows you come here to the Scorpyd forum because you secretly covet one.  
Just order one up and be happy.  
You need to come in out of the rain, son.    

Wheres those 2 new rail-less bows you talked about???????????????????????????????

[crappie-tom]

madarcher427, on 14 January 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

Ive been researching crossbows for a couple of weeks now .iam leaning towards the ventilator or telson 130,along with the sz 380.I was on another web site  when i came across ta post from another guy saying that the scarped crossbows are to big to hunt with . Has anyone else experienced this?I don't have a dealer close to me with any in stock for me to shoot .Iam wondering if they are the same size as the horton vision ?

Hi Madarcher427   Here are some photos for size comparison for the Scorpyd 165 and, a Bowtech 350.  These are very similar products to what you requested.    The Scorpyd is a little bigger than the Vision. The Bowtech very similar in size to the Vision with the 2 having  different limb designs.

Hope this helps
c-t

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[Sagittarius]

Jetster, on 14 January 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Wheres those 2 new rail-less bows you talked about???????????????????????????????

Not allowed to speak anymore about them at the present time.

[Jetster]

Sagittarius, on 14 January 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Not allowed to speak anymore about them at the present time.

And when will this cat actually be let outta its bag,I think its gotta be smothering or at least dyeing of thirst even if it had 9 lives..........................

[madarcher427]

crappie-tom, on 14 January 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Hi Madarcher427   Here are some photos for size comparison for the Scorpyd 165 and, a Bowtech 350.  These are very similar products to what you requested.    The Scorpyd is a little bigger than the Vision. The Bowtech very similar in size to the Vision with the 2 having  different limb designs.

Hope this helps
c-t

Thank you !  according to the 1st post  on ventilator  its an inch longer & 3/4 wider so aim going to day to shoot a vision so I can compare it .Mainly concerned about drawing it back ,more then size .I switching to crossbow due to shoulder  problems .

[crappie-tom]

madarcher427, on 15 January 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Thank you !  according to the 1st post  on ventilator  its an inch longer & 3/4 wider so aim going to day to shoot a vision so I can compare it .Mainly concerned about drawing it back ,more then size .I switching to crossbow due to shoulder  problems .

Hi madarcher427  The vent is 3" less in width and, 2" shorter in length than the 165.  The old vision(175lb draw wt/12.75" power stroke) shoots about 300fps, the 350(135lb draw wt/15.5" power stroke) about 350fps and, the vent (150lb draw weight/18.5" power stroke)about 400fps.   These are 3 totally different xbows.    If drawing back is of concern you might want to try a cocking device. There are pictures on the Scorpyd forum that show a cocking device on a Scorpyd.  Rex from Scorpyd may have more information. His # is on here.  I myself haven't seen the other 2 xbows with a cocking device as of yet.
Good luck on your new xbow purchase.
c-t

[Buck_Slayer]

crappie-tom, on 15 January 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

Hi madarcher427  The vent is 3" less in width and, 2" shorter in length than the 165.  The old vision(175lb draw wt/12.75" power stroke) shoots about 300fps, the 350(135lb draw wt/15.5" power stroke) about 350fps and, the vent (150lb draw weight/18.5" power stroke)about 400fps.

I would only add that the Ventilator has a limb option that's 100 pound draw and still shoots a 22inch 400gr arrow 345FPS. FYI.

[madarcher427]

I went & shoot the vision today ,for about half an hour or more .I didn't have any issues pulling back actually found it to be easy,.no shoulder pain .I really like how it balanced ,the trigger was very gritty .but this is a demo & been beat to hell .Right limb had rattle in it also .

[Big-Bird-VA]

If size was a problem no one would be able to drag an Excal in the woods. It's as wide as it is long. There is a little more to the size of something when talking about xbows. Balance and feel play a big part in hunting. And yes too wide is a problem too. You should have no problems in a tree or blind with any of them.

[dryforkbrady]

I don't have any problems with this bow's size.
I hunt out of an older API Bowhunter Climber. It has the open front and the hand climber has extended handles for aid in climbing. I have been in the tree with my 125 now a 130 Telson for two years now. When I am at the desired height, I move the seat/hand climber just to the right of the platform. I hang the bow on the climbing handle thru the stock. Having the climber just to the right allows room for the stirrup to clear the stand platform. The scope is actually resting behind my right calf. It sits there very comfortably. I did get busted once this year but I have taken three deer in two years with the bow hanging like this. I anyone has this stand, I will add pictures if that might help.