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[FuzzyFultz]

Ky Bob, on 06 February 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Then why I'm I shooting carbons........... I always thought that carbons were more accurate.

Ky Bob, It is because you have not always been a member of Crossbow Nation. You have been misinformed by some other arrow shooting group. Now you have been enlightened and will now sell all your carbon and buy new aluminum 2219 Easton shafts ASAP. You now will always depend on Crossbow Nation to get your arrow information. I too have been enlightened on this site. I may never buy another carbon arrow if I ever get my glue to stick my vanes to the shafts. The FOC does not matter that much with aluminum either, I learnt that here.

[Jack Pine]

Ky Bob, on 06 February 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Then why I'm I shooting carbons........... I always thought that carbons were more accurate.

Bob, carbon isn't a total waste, it has some advantages; it's not as susceptible to dents, dings, and bends that will put aluminum out of commission.  Carbon can be more recoverable in hunting situations; you just might have to sort through the flyers.  Another thing I don't like about carbon is they scare me!  In crossbows with aluminum rails, they can get scored on the nock end to the point that they can become dangerous if you shoot a lot.  Keep an eye on 'em, if they are getting scored badly, you might extend their life by fletching the point end, making the old nock end the new point end.  Just be careful with them, a while back I remember Semperfi1970 dryfiring his xbo because of a carbon failure, though I don't remember what it was all about.  Might be worth asking him or looking it up in an old post.  
If I was a pro, punching paper for money, I would use Easton shafts unless someone could show me something better, which to date I have not seen.

Jack ><>

[Fullquiver]

I was at a local shop and saw some Easton aluminum crossbow arrows marked at 3.50 a shaft and intended to buy some then when I got them to the counter to pay for them they only want $3 a shaft so I bought 18 of them.  I am very pleased with their accuracy as I went out and shot them.   I wouldn't want to shoot them at the same spot twice at anyting under 50 yards.  There is obviously a difference with the accuracy between the Carbon arrows I have used and these aluminum shafts.

[Jack Pine]

OK, found Randy's post on why you need to look after your arrows, but especially carbon arrows.

http://www.crossbown...__fromsearch__1

Jack ><>

[FuzzyFultz]

Jack Pine, on 07 February 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

OK, found Randy's post on why you need to look after your arrows, but especially carbon arrows.

http://www.crossbown...__fromsearch__1

Jack ><>

Thanks for finding that Jack. A good reminder for us to watch those arrows. I have been down that road before with a vert bow twice. You better keep an eye on those nocks to, the nocks split out on my vert bow.

[webfarmer]

Urban Legend, on 01 February 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

I know of some new arrows coming out shortly that will be more consistent than anything else offered.  Manufacturers have a certain acceptable variance in spine measurement.  These arrows will have a spine variance of almost 1/4 of what most arrow manufacturers consider the norm.  Also, spine can very from one side of the arrow to the other.  Everyone of these arrows will be indexed and matched spine before fletching, and then fletched at that point.  If you think your crossbow shoots good now, wait until these arrows hit the market.

OK mister - it's been 8 solid days - what gives??  

[Ky Bob]

Still waiting!!! I got money to burn..............

[Urban Legend]

Coming soon.  I promise.

[FuzzyFultz]

MMmmmmmmm.......... Patiently waiting. Thanks Jeff.


        Fuzzy

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[dropzone]

I can't take it the anticipation is killing me!!

[Mim]

I'm curious about these news arrows. It will be possible an Aerobolt II alternative for my Scorpyd RDT 165. Is it Carbon Tech arrows ?

Edited by Mim, 14 March 2012 - 05:34 PM.

[FuzzyFultz]

It will be very hard pressed for a carbon to shoot with my Easton 2219s but we will be awaiting to hear of the results and see some nice impressive pictures of arrows grouping in the 1/2" and lower range at the 40 - 50 - 60 yard trial mark. Bring em on my friends. Spend that old mildewed money that you have kept out in the back yard buried in a Mason jar or near your favorite honey hole in an old hollow tree.

Just bring them on, I dare you .

                                                        Fuzzy

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[webfarmer]

I'm confused now. The word here is the most accurate and consistent arrows are aluminum. Are these arrows we're waiting for carbon or aluminum? It sounds like carbon to me? If aluminum is tops for accuracy - why are we playing with carbon then? I would think everyone would be on the Easton bandwagon. Can someone enlighten me? Thanks in advance.

Edited by webfarmer, 14 March 2012 - 12:32 PM.

[Jack Pine]

webfarmer, on 14 March 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm confused now. The word here is the most accurate and consistent arrows are aluminum. Are these arrows we're waiting for carbon or aluminum? It sounds like carbon to me? If aluminum is tops for accuracy - why are we playing with carbon then? I would think everyone would be on the Easton bandwagon. Can someone emlighten me? Thanks in advance.

I dunno WF, sounds like aluminum but with closer tolerances than what's generally available now.  Just have to wait and see, but I don't see carbon tecnology surpassing [Easton] aluminum to the point that it delivers the kind of tolerances UL mentioned.  Then again I was wrong once before LOL.

Jack ><>

Someone mentioned an arrow that had an aluminum "jacket" with a carbon core;  ?   I don't see the advantage over just aluminum?  Anyone know what it might be?  I can see still more different sizes of inserts and nocks; not an advantage IMO.

Edited by Jack Pine, 14 March 2012 - 11:02 AM.

[FuzzyFultz]

webfarmer, on 14 March 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

I'm confused now. The word here is the most accurate and consistent arrows are aluminum. Are these arrows we're waiting for carbon or aluminum? It sounds like carbon to me? If aluminum is tops for accuracy - why are we playing with carbon then? I would think everyone would be on the Easton bandwagon. Can someone emlighten me? Thanks in advance.

Well the Carbon are more durable my friend than aluminum. The carbon need a good FOC to fly correctly at the said distances I posted. I kinda was just shooting a joking jester at everyone using carbon. However the aluminum are by far the most accurate, and if you need further information or proof. Then please just do a search and you will see. The aluminum are not as durable, but are less than half the price. I do not want to sound as if I am bashing carbon and I do not own stock in Easton. But the aluminum shoot very accurately from my set up and most if not all competition shooters use aluminum for a reason. If aluminum get as much as a small dent in them, they will not be as accurate any longer. The competition shooters will shoot the arrow only a few times and then trash them and replace with new. But they are more durable than that. Just my two cents worth here. I also build my own arrows, the way I want them.

Fuzzy


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Edited by FuzzyFultz, 14 March 2012 - 11:05 AM.

[webfarmer]

FuzzyFultz, on 14 March 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Well the Carbon are more durable my friend than aluminum. The carbon need a good FOC to fly correctly at the said distances I posted. I kinda was just shooting a joking jester at everyone using carbon. However the aluminum are by far the most accurate, and if you need further information or proof. Then please just do a search and you will see. The aluminum are not as durable, but are less than half the price. I do not want to sound as if I am bashing carbon and I do not own stock in Easton. But the aluminum shoot very accurately from my set up and most if not all competition shooters use aluminum for a reason. If aluminum get as much as a small dent in them, they will not be as accurate any longer. The competition shooters will shoot the arrow only a few times and then trash them and replace with new. But they are more durable than that. Just my two cents worth here. I also build my own arrows, the way I want them.

Fuzzy


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I used to roll my own XX75's (and 78's I think) before my dealer talked me into carbon for my vertical bow. My 380 came with Laser II's so that's all I been shooting there also. I'd like to decide what arrow is best and just stick with it for practice and hunting. Guess I'll have to wait and see what the big announcement is. All I want is arrows that survive practice rounds since my hunting arrows will be just for that. Sooo confusing  

[Corky]

Fuzzy,
What do you feel is the best all around aluminum 20" hunting arrow for Xbows?

Corky

[Ky Bob]

Corky, on 14 March 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Fuzzy,
What do you feel is the best all around aluminum 20" hunting arrow for Xbows?

Corky

And with 4" or 5" vanes?

[Urban Legend]

The arrows I'm talking about are carbon.  Aluminum's are great but because they weigh more per inch than the carbons, it is hard to get good FOC without raising your overall total arrow weight.

[Jack Pine]

Urban Legend, on 14 March 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

The arrows I'm talking about are carbon.

Well there you have it; wrong again LOL!

Jack ><>