I wish a deer would give me a shot from a rest. They make sure my body is all contorted in order for me to even have a shot. After I sight in off the bench. I practice lefty, righty and free hand as much as possible.
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Started by Moon, Mar 04 2010 02:10 PM
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#41
Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:33 PM
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#42
Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:17 PM
Please refer to these rules.
"Crossbows: All ASA Pro/Am Rules of Competition are in force except as may be modified or defined as follows:
1. Crossbows must be stock models (with the exception of strings and cables) with a maximum draw weight of 175 pounds. They must be in sound working condition with a working safety and no modifications except adjustments for fit and alignment are allowed.
2. Scopes may be used and may be equipped with lines or mills dots. No light or image may be projected onto the target, and there can be no range finding capability.
3. Except as may be required due to an approved medical exemption, crossbows may only be shot while in a standing position and the use of any device or outside agency including wrapping the sling around the arm, hooked butt-plates, palm rests, stabilizer bars, or a prop stick that allows the mass weight of the bow to be relieved from either arm or to steady the bow while shooting is prohibited. The use of the forward elbow against the archer’s rib cage / side is permitted.
4. Arrows must be identical in size and weight with a minimum of three (3) vanes.
5. Crossbows may only be cocked and loaded while the Archer is at the stake. While the crossbow is loaded it must remain pointed down range at all times.
Crossbow Classes:
1.Crossbow Hunter 40 yards, 300 fpsScopes may be 4x or less, levels and stabilizers are not allowed.
2.Manufacturers Xbow 40 yards, 330 fpsScopes may be 8x or less, levels and stabilizers are allowed."
"8. All IBO competitve events are based on a "free hand" style of shooting. No archer shalluse any device such as shooting sticks,slings or other accessoriesor shooting positions to create a "braced" shot. The only exceptions will be in the PCBH class where the use ofsuch devices is requiredfor continued participation."
There are SOME rifle shooting events shoot from a stool, it is called Benchrest. Most all other rifle shooting games don't use benches or stools. Some shoot 4 different positions, standing, kneeling, sitting and prone, Position Rifle. Others shoot standing, sitting or kneeling and prone, High Power Rifle. Others shoot only standing, Silhouette. Some shoot only prone, Smallbore Prone. Depends on the specific event, I won't list them all here. If you are interested do a search on the NRA site, the International Bencrest Shooters Assoc, the ASSA, etc.
I hope this helps with some of the rules, and clarifies what some of the crossbow and rifle shooting events entail.
BTW, I don't see the crossbow rules being changed anytime soon. Now if there were a hundred or so shooters showing up, then, maybe then, you could get a class that would be allowed to shoot off a stool. I'm aware the IBO would like to have a class for recurve, and one for compound, but there isn't enough shooters to diversify as of yet.
We need MORE shooters participating in order to get our voices heard.
So, the way I see it is we need to "pay our dues". Until then, stand on your hind legs and SHOOT!
"Crossbows: All ASA Pro/Am Rules of Competition are in force except as may be modified or defined as follows:
1. Crossbows must be stock models (with the exception of strings and cables) with a maximum draw weight of 175 pounds. They must be in sound working condition with a working safety and no modifications except adjustments for fit and alignment are allowed.
2. Scopes may be used and may be equipped with lines or mills dots. No light or image may be projected onto the target, and there can be no range finding capability.
3. Except as may be required due to an approved medical exemption, crossbows may only be shot while in a standing position and the use of any device or outside agency including wrapping the sling around the arm, hooked butt-plates, palm rests, stabilizer bars, or a prop stick that allows the mass weight of the bow to be relieved from either arm or to steady the bow while shooting is prohibited. The use of the forward elbow against the archer’s rib cage / side is permitted.
4. Arrows must be identical in size and weight with a minimum of three (3) vanes.
5. Crossbows may only be cocked and loaded while the Archer is at the stake. While the crossbow is loaded it must remain pointed down range at all times.
Crossbow Classes:
1.Crossbow Hunter 40 yards, 300 fpsScopes may be 4x or less, levels and stabilizers are not allowed.
2.Manufacturers Xbow 40 yards, 330 fpsScopes may be 8x or less, levels and stabilizers are allowed."
"8. All IBO competitve events are based on a "free hand" style of shooting. No archer shalluse any device such as shooting sticks,slings or other accessoriesor shooting positions to create a "braced" shot. The only exceptions will be in the PCBH class where the use ofsuch devices is requiredfor continued participation."
There are SOME rifle shooting events shoot from a stool, it is called Benchrest. Most all other rifle shooting games don't use benches or stools. Some shoot 4 different positions, standing, kneeling, sitting and prone, Position Rifle. Others shoot standing, sitting or kneeling and prone, High Power Rifle. Others shoot only standing, Silhouette. Some shoot only prone, Smallbore Prone. Depends on the specific event, I won't list them all here. If you are interested do a search on the NRA site, the International Bencrest Shooters Assoc, the ASSA, etc.
I hope this helps with some of the rules, and clarifies what some of the crossbow and rifle shooting events entail.
BTW, I don't see the crossbow rules being changed anytime soon. Now if there were a hundred or so shooters showing up, then, maybe then, you could get a class that would be allowed to shoot off a stool. I'm aware the IBO would like to have a class for recurve, and one for compound, but there isn't enough shooters to diversify as of yet.
We need MORE shooters participating in order to get our voices heard.
So, the way I see it is we need to "pay our dues". Until then, stand on your hind legs and SHOOT!
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#43
Posted 07 January 2011 - 09:16 AM
Guide Girl, on 20 March 2010 - 10:26 AM, said:
Glad ya'll brought this up! I'm still trying to figure out how to shoot out of my rocking chair while it's leaned back! I'm ready for some tips.
You need some retractible rocker stops on the front of your rocker stays, Girl. Lean back, activate rocker stops, keeps you back and steady, let 'er fly. Plus a string on your arrow so you don't even have to get up to check if you hit.
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#44
Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:40 AM
The only time I stand to shoot my crossbow is when it is being discharged into the target after a hunt. I hunt from a Porta-Climb "Cadillac" treestand where I can rest my forearm on the seat climber rail for a rock-steady shot. It does limit shooting opportunities though. I practice shooting at home from a bench as well.
I never shot a target or deer from sitting down with any of my vertical bows, even though I used to hunt from a Loc-On tree stand. I'd stand up for the first or last 90 minutes of the day anytime I'd hunt, just to be ready. For practice, I shot 75 arrows every morning before work (except in heavy rain or snow) and another 75 in the evenings...all standing up.
Jim
I never shot a target or deer from sitting down with any of my vertical bows, even though I used to hunt from a Loc-On tree stand. I'd stand up for the first or last 90 minutes of the day anytime I'd hunt, just to be ready. For practice, I shot 75 arrows every morning before work (except in heavy rain or snow) and another 75 in the evenings...all standing up.
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#45
Posted 22 January 2011 - 04:20 PM
Moon, on 04 March 2010 - 02:10 PM, said:
but I was lying in the bed this morning (3:00 am) thinking bout shooting vertical bows compared to crossbows. All the years I hunted with traditional equipment and mordern compounds, I always stood up to take the shot and of course shot field rounds and 3D tournaments.....standing up. We shoot vertical bows standing up:) because it just makes sense to do so. IMO shooting a vertical bow of any type sitting down never felt natural to me and I guess most folks would agree.
On the other hand:)....shooting a crossbow for hunting, I always take the shot sitting down resting my left elbow on my thigh or side because it just makes sense to me to do so. Standing up holding between 8 to 10 lbs of dead weight out in front of me with no means of supporting my left elbow surely negativley affects my accuracy. So, why not shoot crossbow 3D shoots sitting on a small floding chair or stool. We could call it the stool division:p
On the other hand:)....shooting a crossbow for hunting, I always take the shot sitting down resting my left elbow on my thigh or side because it just makes sense to me to do so. Standing up holding between 8 to 10 lbs of dead weight out in front of me with no means of supporting my left elbow surely negativley affects my accuracy. So, why not shoot crossbow 3D shoots sitting on a small floding chair or stool. We could call it the stool division:p
LOL Moon I guess you never shot Flint Locks in competition off hand then. After a long day on the range you kind of get use to holding 8 pounds out in front of you. Wussy LOL
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#46
Posted 23 January 2011 - 03:28 PM
Wear a disguise do you? LOL.
huntingal, on 04 March 2010 - 10:18 PM, said:
Won't catch me in a peeing contest!
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#47
Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:40 PM
DH,
No, but I hunt with this one from time to time. I guess being 68 with bone spurs, partially torn rotator cuff and arthritis in my left shoulder has something to do with how I sit and shoot.
But since I posted that, I've started hunting with a medieval crossbow from time to time and for the life of me I can't shoot it half as accurately sitting as I can standing so I'll have to change my tune a bit:-) The medieval is light weight compared to modern crossbows so that helps.
No, but I hunt with this one from time to time. I guess being 68 with bone spurs, partially torn rotator cuff and arthritis in my left shoulder has something to do with how I sit and shoot.
But since I posted that, I've started hunting with a medieval crossbow from time to time and for the life of me I can't shoot it half as accurately sitting as I can standing so I'll have to change my tune a bit:-) The medieval is light weight compared to modern crossbows so that helps.
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