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[Guide Girl]

Amen, vixenmaster!

[dmznimrod]

personally i don't care for out of state hunters or any hunters for that matter!
but i DO WELCOME ALL SPORTSWOMEN AND SPORTSMEN to michigan. i truely believe there's a difference in a hunter versus a sportsperson, one cares about the sport, the other could care less about anything but themselves. this inpart is the reason for alot of dislike for out of staters IMHO !
SO HAVING SAID THIS COME ONE COME ALL SPORTSMEN/WOMEN TO MICHIGAN !

[SPECIALIZED]

I consider myself a hunter and I certainly do not fall into the category you describe as a hunter.I care very much for all wild life,the environment,as well as most any thing to do with the outdoors.

For that matter I have seen so called sportsmen who only care ,how big an animal is or how big the antlers are ,and the heck with every thing else.Some care nothing about hunting and only want to shoot an animal to hang on the office wall to stroke their ego.

Don't be so quick to lump all people in a group because of the deeds of a few .

I am proud to be called a hunter,and always do my best to uphold the time honored tradition.

There are good hunters just as there are those who may do bad things.

The same goes for sportsman.

[dmznimrod]

SPECIALIZED said:

I consider myself a hunter and I certainly do not fall into the category you describe as a hunter.I care very much for all wild life,the environment,as well as most any thing to do with the outdoors.

For that matter I have seen so called sportsmen who only care ,how big an animal is or how big the antlers are ,and the heck with every thing else.Some care nothing about hunting and only want to shoot an animal to hang on the office wall to stroke their ego.

NOT TO PISS IN YOUR SOUP, BUT I THINK YOU MISSED  THE MEANING OF MY DEFINITIONS ! if you wish to consider yourself a hunter fine by me, i call you a sportsman due to your ethics and morals. these ethics and morals were taught to me by the likes of  my dad,fred bear, mort neff, captain al lish in person and in your face so to speak. i never heard anyone of those men call themselves hunters, only outdoorsmen and sportsmen. so having restated my position  on my definitions i hope you don't take offense, because  none was intended towards you. WE JUST KINDA DISAGREE ON DEFINITIONS NOT OUR ETHICS OR MORALS !

[thunderbutt]

i see no problem with out of state hunters. in state or out of state hunters you are what you act like.

[woodmaster]

More power to the out of staters ,they are paying a hefty price to hunt. These people slashing tires are the low lives that dream of going to Alaska or someplace and are jealous because they know they will never get to do it and chances are the out of staters tires they just slashed will or have been on an out of state hunt.
I cant imagine too many people being against it unless its the ones that cant afford to hunt in a different county, I dont know anybody that doesnt dream of an out of state hunt.
If all the laws are complied with and fees paid ,no trespassing and not busting down fences  there is nothing but good that can come out of it as far as I can see.
But what do I know ,I am a farmer.

[TRG3]

In the past 5 years in my area of Illinois, I've lost many acres that I use to hunt to outfitters who have leased up lots and lots of ground, developed a website describing the "fantastic" hunting opportunities available at their location, and then brought in unsuspecting out-of-state hunters who come thinking that there's a big buck behind every tree based on the marketing provided by these outfitters. In reality, many of these places, based on my hunting experience in these areas before the outfitters moved in, held lots of does and "basket rack" bucks, but very few bucks that one would have mounted. If I were an out-of-state hunter, I'd go to the Illinois DNR website and investigate the thousands of acres available at the free public hunting areas that are open to anyone with a resident or non-resident deer permit. Some of these offer camping areas, too. There are also free publications available through the DNR concerning these sites as well as maps, etc. I've talked to many out-of-state deer hunters and they are just like the rest of us, decent fellas who just want a good hunting experience and don't want to be placed in a fence row with no trees to climb or in a 25-acre woods with four other hunters and 150 point minimum on bucks at $500-1,000/day, just to repeat a couple of stories they have relayed to me. Obviously, not all outfitters are out to pad their wallet, but they are out there, so beware! Just remember that if it sounds too good to be true that it probably is.  Illinois has lots and lots of deer and some really nice wall hangers...just not in near the quantity that is advertised. (I saw one last year in 30+ hunts and none in the 40+ deer I've seen so far this bow season.). Do your homework and you can have a good experience hunting deer in Illinois at a cost that you can afford.

[BUDFIELDS]

I started bowhunting in 1964 and I have been fortunate to hunt my home state of Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio, Illinois, Kentucky and Pennsylvania and in my own personal experiences, I have encountered VERY FEW negativie situations.

When my hunting buddies and I make trips out of state, "WE" consider we are adding to the local, and state economy by spending our money on products that state is selling..license fees, groceries, gasoline, lodging, etc.

Some of our hunting trips involves hunting private property and other trips invovle hunting "open hunting" areas. We strive to find areas NOT being hunted by the public and GRANTED.. this can sometimes be difficult but we do the BEST WE CAN NOT to interfere with ANY ONE ELSE.

I have NO problem with out of state hunters coming here to hunt Indiana and I have made some really close friends of a few of them. I figure "WE," as HUNTERS have enough problems with people trying to get our AMERICAN TRADITION of HUNTING taken away from us.

WE are STRONGER IN NUMBERS.. LET US NOT FIGHT AMONGST OURSELF... IF you want to hunt with a recurve... DO SO. IF you want to hunt with a compound bow...DO SO. IF you want to hunt with a crossbow...DO SO. Life is SO SHORT..ENJOY I WHILE YOU CAN.


                                                     Bud Fields

[kmtpr]

BUDFIELDS said:

I figure "WE," as HUNTERS have enough problems with people trying to get our AMERICAN TRADITION of HUNTING taken away from us.

WE are STRONGER IN NUMBERS.. LET US NOT FIGHT AMONGST OURSELF... IF you want to hunt with a recurve... DO SO. IF you want to hunt with a compound bow...DO SO. IF you want to hunt with a crossbow...DO SO. Life is SO SHORT..ENJOY I WHILE YOU CAN.


                                                     Bud Fields

Well-said!!  ALL hunters/sportspeople should stay united to thwart the ANTI groups' agenda.  Hunt safe, legally and respect the "other" person's choice of weapon and method.