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#1 longknife

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:25 AM

Need some help on how to silence cross bows (Is it possible?) I know how to silence recurves but not sure how to bring down the noise level of a Parker Bushwacker at 285 fps (does it matter?)

#2 DaveHawk

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:08 AM

<br />Need some help on how to silence cross bows  (Is it possible?)  I know how to silence recurves but not sure how to bring down the noise level of a Parker Bushwacker at 285 fps  (does it matter?)<br />

&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /><br />Best way I know is to leave it at home and hunt with something else. LOL<br /><br />I gave up on that many years ago. I figure by the time the arrow passes through the deer and into the ground and the deer is running off I've forgot about the noise it makes LOL

I once had a friend who came looking for me and another friend was was waiting for me on the edge of the woods. I could hear one say; where's Dave ? then I shot a deer and Andy said right over there. They heard the shot and like good buddies came to help me drag my deer out.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:22 AM

I guess I figure it like Dave. With my 10 point shooting at 315fps, the deer should either be dead, or about to die by the time he hears my bow twanging, if at that point he is paying attention to the sound at all. I would like to have it a bit quiter like everyone else, but it doesn't bother me enough to do anyting about it.

You could go to the Parker thread here on CN and ask the pro's your question. I know they will be happy to help you.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:39 AM

Thar ain't but 2 ways to make a CB quiet. Best ear plugs money can buy or sell it. Don't think you will like the last 2 options. Friend most anything you do or try will rob yer Bow of speed cept those string pads/snubbers whatever they call them things They let the string hit on the rubber even that might sound like a drum stick on a practice pad

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:52 AM

Straight from Parker's website:

Q Have you stopped using string silencers on your crossbows?

A YES. The reason is that we have long know string silencers and limb savers were ineffective on crossbows (unlike compound bows where they do a tremendous job) because the crossbow limbs and strings are much heavier. The silencing accessories are not big enough to dampen the vibration and noise created by a crossbow. Also, those components were easily damaged and lost. Leeches tore after a low number of shots and limb savers did not stay on the limbs so we had a huge number of warranty issues.

We began using them initially because we installed Sims products on all of our compound bows and still feel that their products are the most effective at dampening noise and vibration for vertical bows. Just not for crossbows.



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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:00 AM

<br />Straight from Parker's website:<br /><br />

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I think he's talikg about STS, aka a string stopper. It doesn't do much to silence a bow either. (got them on all three bows) Reduces the vibration a bit but marginal effect on noise reduction. String Leeches ('thingies') slow the string speed-arrow velocity-but not much noise reduction either. Best bet is to shoot at reasonably close, UNALARMED deer. If one makes a noise to stop then (Blaaa, etc), they stop but are alarmed and poised for flight.
The next thing they hear is the bow releasing, they respond with their danger avoidance reaction. aka 'jumping the string.'
BTW, From personal experience, I think they also SEE the arrow coming; but have been unable to confirm this by asking a deer. LOL

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 10:48 AM

Buy the Horton Vision.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:49 AM

There is one way to have a silent crossbow - don't pull the trigger :)
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:06 PM

I put limb-saver 'mushrooms' on the limbs and cat-whiskers on the string. It's a little quieter, but not a lot.
A deer will not have time to dodge the bolt inside of 20 yards, but at 30 yards I've had a deer completely dodge the bolt. Shooting at unalerted deer helps. If they have you pegged and are about to blow outta there, the shot had better be inside 15 yards.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:40 PM

a deer hunting story ( only the facts, names and circumstances have been changed to protect the the the
oh just never mind)

a couple yrs ago a my hunting buddy and me found us approaching deer gun season with a problem
you see we had permission to hunt the same 500 acres that we had hunted previously.
the preceding yr we had both taken bucks during muzzleloader but did not see a deer during rifle.

so we hunted the muzzleloader season without seeing a deer and the tracks where nowhere to be found either
so for rifle we hunted a public area around tulsa okla and my buddy got a couple shots opportunities
the first morning but gun malfunctions ( one a new mag jammed and no bullet in the chamber on the other)
well we were overun by ""hunters"" walking around or stands for the next 2 hunts and we decided to
break out the crossbows and go to a part of the lake that was archery only.

we hauled our stands about a mile (on foot no vehicles allowed) to a area that looked great,
there were rubs and scrapes abundant and numerous trails we set up his stand and then found a area
for me to set up my stand about 3000 yrds away.
we hunted that evening and about 430 i had a doe walking towards the scrape angling at 45 degrees to
me. well i had a shot at her at about forty yrds and i took it.

well a minute later my buddy called me on the radio (were old so we hunt close to one another for
safety sake) id you see her go down? he said and i said yea she went down like a rock.
he then informs me that not only did he hear the arrow hit her but the shot also!!!

now i thought my bow was fairly quiet and there were scattered trees between us, i dont know if
he would have heard the shot in dense foliage but anyways he heard itand not only that
a couple other hunters came over to where he was to see if we needed help getting the deer out.
i have no idea where they were butin the quietness of the woods sound travels a long way.

i was reminded of a deer camp we used to gun hunt at that we could hear people talking
when the wind was not blowing a mile away>

soi guess you can soften the noise level of a xbow some but i have yet to have a deer get out of the way
of either one of my xbows shooting 260 and 340 fps
now when i was shooting my old bear whitetail verticle at a blistering 87fps well
thats another chapter!!!!!!!!

THE END.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 04:32 PM

There is one way to have a silent crossbow - don't pull the trigger :)


Or wear earplugs... :P

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 05:57 PM

Shoot from inside an enclosed ground blind.

It won't make the bow any quieter, but it will help muffle the sound that reaches the target.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 02:13 AM

Shoot from inside an enclosed ground blind.

It won't make the bow any quieter, but it will help muffle the sound that reaches the target.


ez just how u get that ground blind up in my ladder stand??????

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:39 AM

ez just how u get that ground blind up in my ladder stand??????



very, very carefully!

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 11:11 AM

Need some help on how to silence cross bows (Is it possible?) I know how to silence recurves but not sure how to bring down the noise level of a Parker Bushwacker at 285 fps (does it matter?)



Well , after all the round a bout answers you got: There are a few items that may help but not much. Wrap the foot stirup is one . It will keep it from ringing if it is an extruded wire. If it is a molded or billet type it won't ring anyway. There are silencer kits from various manufactures that are not expensive and IMO are worth the try. I wouldn't put anything on my strings or cables.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 11:35 PM

I kill whatever I shoot on the 1st shot (most of the time)so I never think about how loud my xbow was. Seems quite quiet and deadly to me! Happy Hunting!

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:05 PM

Need some help on how to silence cross bows (Is it possible?) I know how to silence recurves but not sure how to bring down the noise level of a Parker Bushwacker at 285 fps (does it matter?)


You mentioned the recurve first. I shoot a longbow at 180 fps and it can be quietened down. I also shoot an Excalibur crossbow. It cannot be significantly quietened. My thinking is that even a Parker cannot be silenced enough to prevent the game from hearing the shot.

Concerning the second part.. does it matter? My answer is yes and no depending on the range. And along with the need to accurately estimate distance this item is why I think a crossbow is in fact archery equipment. This line of thinking is contrary to the thinking of a lot of my fellow shooters, both traditional and compound. ;-)

Here is why. I started my stop watch and when I saw 1:00 second showing I tried to stop the timer. I did this several times. I averaged about a .25 second reaction time. I am 56 and assume any deer will surely react within .25 seconds.

The speed of sound is about 1125 fps. You arrow is moving at 285 fps. Assuming the arrow does not slow in flight and it does: At 20 yards the sound arrives .16 second ahead of the arrow. At 30 yards the sound arrives .24 second before the arrow. At 40 yards the sound arrives .31 second ahead of the arrow. At 50 yards the sound will arrive about .37 seconds ahead of your arrow. I think the .3 second @ 40 yards is significant. Especially since I have neglected to consider drag on the arrow. I think anyone would agree that .37 second @ 50 yards is a problem. In my way of thinking if the shot is limited to 35 yards the sound of the bow is not a problem. So much for those who think the crossbow to be a rifle..

Crossbow hunters are not the enemy.. Anti-hunters are the enemy. :)

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:43 AM

I no longer worry about the noise my, Horton Exp. makes. It's far from the fastest bow out there, but I've never had one deer duck the string. And I kill my share.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:01 AM

After trying all dampeners here the best Xfactor reduced noise db from 97-99 to around 84 db

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:01 PM

I put limb-saver 'mushrooms' on the limbs and cat-whiskers on the string. It's a little quieter, but not a lot.
A deer will not have time to dodge the bolt inside of 20 yards, but at 30 yards I've had a deer completely dodge the bolt. Shooting at unalerted deer helps. If they have you pegged and are about to blow outta there, the shot had better be inside 15 yards.


If this happened with your Tac at 30 yards I would say your aim was waaaay offf. :):)