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#1 Hardawaypoints

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 10:38 AM

I set up at 20 yards to get the scope adjusted with the new arrows and it took two shots before I was cutting the X in the bullseye with Gold Tip arrows and Slick Trick broadheads.  I backed up to 30 and had to start shooting at different bullseyes to prevent cutting the arrows I'd already shot.  I backed up to 40 yards and also got some great results.  I blew up some toy balloons to about lemon-size and taped them to the target face.  I popped each balloon with the first shot at it from 40 yards.  

I remembered seeing a golfball half-way buried in the dirt near the creek, so I dug it out, washed it off in the creek and taped it to the face of the target. I was 1/4 inch high with the first shot @ 40, cut the top edge of the ball with the second shot (which knocked the tape loose) I split the ball with my third shot from 40 yards. I backed up to 50 and shot another lemon-sized balloon on the first shot.  Those Gold Tip arrows and Slick Trick broadheads are the stuff! Lookout deer.

Just to satisfy my curiosity I put the same broadheads on those Red Hot arrows, shot a three shot group, and got a group bigger than the bottom of a coffee can at 40 yards.  My bow just doesn't like to shoot those arrows well. Any one of those shots would have probably killed a deer, but any shot could have just as easily wounded one too.

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 01:35 PM

View PostHardawaypoints, on 04 September 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

I set up at 20 yards to get the scope adjusted with the new arrows and it took two shots before I was cutting the X in the bullseye with Gold Tip arrows and Slick Trick broadheads.  I backed up to 30 and had to start shooting at different bullseyes to prevent cutting the arrows I'd already shot.  I backed up to 40 yards and also got some great results.  I blew up some toy balloons to about lemon-size and taped them to the target face.  I popped each balloon with the first shot at it from 40 yards.  

I remembered seeing a golfball half-way buried in the dirt near the creek, so I dug it out, washed it off in the creek and taped it to the face of the target. I was 1/4 inch high with the first shot @ 40, cut the top edge of the ball with the second shot (which knocked the tape loose) I split the ball with my third shot from 40 yards. I backed up to 50 and shot another lemon-sized balloon on the first shot.  Those Gold Tip arrows and Slick Trick broadheads are the stuff! Lookout deer.

Just to satisfy my curiosity I put the same broadheads on those Red Hot arrows, shot a three shot group, and got a group bigger than the bottom of a coffee can at 40 yards.  My bow just doesn't like to shoot those arrows well. Any one of those shots would have probably killed a deer, but any shot could have just as easily wounded one too.

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Your GT's have a higher FOC. Any doubt that crossbows 'like' high FOC?
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 05:21 PM

View PostCossack, on 04 September 2010 - 01:35 PM, said:

Your GT's have a higher FOC. Any doubt that crossbows 'like' high FOC?


No doubting here. Those brass inserts are what changed things. A 7 or 8% FOC increase made a huge difference in how well those arrows performed.  I was seriously worried that there was something wrong with the bow.  I knew it couldn't be me, because I was using a bench rest to shoot from. I have shot no telling how many hundreds of thousands of rounds of everything from a .17  to a .475 caliber off a bench over the last 33 years.

I intend to shoot some more mornings before work and I have a treestand set up in the back yard I will also practice from.  Looking forward to getting back in the early Fall woods and notching a few deer tags.

Thanks again for the help & suggestions. Especially to Art, who coached me along. I owe you one.

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 11:43 PM

Jim, It is AL not Art. But I new who you meant. I was glad to help. If you want to recover some of your money put the red hots up for sale in the Market Place section.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 04:16 PM

I haven't shot carbons a lot from my wildcat but it seems to like the carbons a lot better than the Easton aluminums. I know the FOC on the carbons are 18%. I haven't checked the aluminums yet.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 08:06 PM

View PostZrt1200, on 05 September 2010 - 11:43 PM, said:

Jim, It is AL not Art. But I new who you meant. I was glad to help. If you want to recover some of your money put the red hots up for sale in the Market Place section.
D'oh!  You'd think for all the time you spent helping me get squared away I might get your name right...Apologies. I'll give you one free opportunity of calling me whatever you want.  Just don't call me a bad shot (anymore).  Thanks very much for all the assistance.  I look forward to arrowing a deer or three with my crossbow. Thanks Al.

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