Boots and the foot strup

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Crossbow Fan

Discussion Starter · Dec 11, 2019

Recently a friend of mine stopped over and right away I noticed his face was severely battered and bruised. He was reluctant to tell me what had happened to him and after a little coaxing he explained what had happened. He was hunting in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula which this time of year can be quite cold. He had put on what most people know them as Mickey Mouse boots to keep his feet warm. Before entering the woods he attempted to cock his crossbow inserting his Mickey Mouse boot as far into the foot strup as the boot would allow. He pulled back the rope cocker and as it got close to the end of travel the foot strup of the crossbow pulled away from his boot and the whole crossbow flew butt end first into his face breaking his nose and a black eye a heavy weight fighter would be proud off. This is a seasoned hunter and did not asses the danger those boots present when cocking his crossbow.

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1271

· #2 · Dec 11, 2019

I’ve had my stirrup slip off my boot a few times but never that bad! I was never hurt just peed off a bit! I now kick my boot into the stirrup to make sure it will NOT slip off my boot again! This is a very dangerous situation for those who have larger feet with larger boots!

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canuckarcher

· #3 · Dec 11, 2019

I HAD burkey( Tim) make me an oversized stirrup for my Scorpyd. I hunt almost exclusively in cold weather....

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Statgeek

· #4 · Dec 12, 2019

Oh man I cringed reading this, just thinking of the pain that just have caused. I hope your buddy heals up and gets himself a full-size stirrup, or finds another way to cock it.

Thanks for bringing this up too, because some of the xb’s out there are being sold with non-usable, tiny “bow hangers” installed where a true stirrup would normally go. This is a safety concern that we should be sharing with our xb community.

TenPoint’s Stealth NXT, Nitro, I believe their Shadow, and the RDX 400 are a few examples. All of these really should (and I think mostly are) cocked using their crank (Acudraw or Acudraw Pro) systems, but some guys (myself included) carry a manual cocker as a backup. I tested the manual cocker using the stirrup that came with my Stealth a couple times with just tennis shoes and it was a near disaster. If you want a real stirrup you have to order one, which I did, and the miniature wall-hanger one will never go back on my Stealth unless I sell it and the buyer wants it.

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Crossbow Fan

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 12, 2019

Could you imagine if he would of took a direct hit to his mouth and the damage it would of done to his teeth….
After seeing him and knowing the story, every time I rope cock my xb I think of what happen to him.
That’s why I've shared this story with the folks .

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Statgeek

· #6 · Dec 12, 2019

Crossbow Fan said:
Could you imagine if he would of took a direct hit to his mouth and the damage it would of done to his teeth….
After seeing him and knowing the story, every time I rope cock my xb I think of what happen to him.
That’s why I've shared this story with the folks .

... And I'm glad that you did. This Safety thread is one that I always check for new content every time I log into the Forum.

(I've also read of an instance where a guy was cocking his xb, it slipped, and the butt of the xb hit him in the family jewels. Ouch!)

For those of you who cannot purchase a full-size stirrup, or who wear boots that are just huge (what I imagine a "Mickey Mouse" boot must look like), if I were in your shoes (literally), I'd fabricate a metal plate or hardwood device that you could step on in the woods, and that would extend forward of your boot and place on top of an undersized stirrup for cocking. Something... ANYthing to prevent this kind of injury, and totally ruin your hunt!

Dagwood

· #7 · Dec 12, 2019

I bought the extra large stirrups for my Excaliburs. They will allow my boot inside.

1271

· #8 · Dec 12, 2019

Dagwood said:
I bought the extra large stirrups for my Excaliburs. They will allow my boot inside.

That’s on my Christmas list for my wife!

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hookedonbow

· #9 · Dec 12, 2019

canuckarcher said:
I HAD burkey( Tim) make me an oversized stirrup for my Scorpyd. I hunt almost exclusively in cold weather....

Does he still make them? I would like one for my ventilator

Gabowman

· #10 · Dec 12, 2019

Ive always made REAL SURE my shoe was inserted in the stirrup far enough because I know this can and will happen. Hope your friend gets over his pains.....both physically and mentally (for letting that happen).

canuckarcher

· #11 · Dec 13, 2019

hookedonbow said:
Does he still make them? I would like one for my ventilator

Burky247365 is his handle on Archery talk. Shoot him a P.M.

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Munch007

· #12 · Dec 18, 2019

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Oh man, ouch! That's something that I have experienced too. Thankfully I was hunched over and the bow hit me in the chest.
Definitely instilled respect for the forces involved when cocking the bow. I've seen the "big boot stirrup" offered by Excal but haven't picked one up yet. I was toying with the idea of a little block of plywood that will fit into the stirrup while I stand on it with the big boot. My rubbers just barely fit with a little coaxing

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my winters are definitely too big for the stirrup

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robertyb

· #13 · Dec 18, 2019

You might need a Dr Stirrup then. Use both feet out to the sides.

mahd776

· #14 · Dec 19, 2019

When I purchased my RDX 400 with ACCU Draw back in spring I could not figure out why the small foot stirrup. Ordered the larger stirrup that came on the RDX 400 without ACCU Draw and installed it so I could use a rope cocker if I wanted to. Recently while cruising the TenPoint web site I found a explanation for the small stirrup. When using ACCU Draw and foot is in stirrup if the cord breaks it could maybe slam the sled into the top of ones foot. So if using ACCU Draw to cock keep foot out of stirrup I guess!

Statgeek

· #15 · Dec 19, 2019

mahd776 said:
When I purchased my RDX 400 with ACCU Draw back in spring I could not figure out why the small foot stirrup. Ordered the larger stirrup that came on the RDX 400 without ACCU Draw and installed it so I could use a rope cocker if I wanted to. Recently while cruising the TenPoint web site I found a explanation for the small stirrup. When using ACCU Draw and foot is in stirrup if the cord breaks it could maybe slam the sled into the top of ones foot. So if using ACCU Draw to cock keep foot out of stirrup I guess!

Not sure that I buy that explanation. But ok.. I guess it has some merit? I guess??

mahd776

· #16 · Dec 24, 2019

Statgeek said:
Not sure that I buy that explanation. But ok.. I guess it has some merit? I guess??

Yep I was a bit skeptical myself!

swets

· #17 · Jan 1, 2020

I got smacked in my lower ribs and forearms by my killer instinct brawler.Instead of a step thru stirrup it has a step on one. Theres not much room for your foot on it and my shoes were wet and at half draw that thing flew pretty fast up at me. Now I stand on the outside corners of that thing with the balls of two feet and the two big toes together.

Huntersthompson

· #18 · Jan 5, 2020

They need to make 2 different stirrups for xbows . Small for ccd,large for rope cocker

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