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Recently I bought a Spectre 375 from a deal sent to me by Crosman for a Black Friday special. The crossbow kit was offered for$161 plus tax. I thought this looks to good to be true. I shared the deal with my son and he replied he needed a new crossbow. After researching a bit I decided it was too go a deal to pass up.

The Spectre came in Thursday. I inspected the crossbow and compared it to the Sniper that I traded out of a while back. I noticed several improved features such as the butt stock style, the forearm, the lack of the ADF level being in the way, improved ADF design. and better position of the quiver.

I decided to assemble it for my son. Jason works long hours and I am retired so why not do him a favor. The assemble was very well and fast. I checked the front riser assembly for same plane positioning as the rail when I attached it. It was spot on and needed no tuning.

After the assembly I laser zerod the scope so it would as least hit the target first try. It was way out so needed lots of dialing.

Then with Jason's blessing and since he had the lack of time I offered to zero the scope and test fire the crossbow.

This evening it took me abou 4o minutes to complete this process right before dark. I was pleased with the overall process. I would give it 5 star rating. Here is why:

Earlier I purchased a dozen Victory Xbolts as a gift for Jason's birthday after sharing the great deal I found. I didn't bother to use the supplied BEE arrows because I knew from experience they would not be as good as the matched Xbolts.

Once I got zero at 20 yards the rest when fast. I used the same arrow to check for repeated POI with supplied 4X32 scope. Right away I could tell the bow was accurate because on confirmation shots I was hitting the same hole on the target as the precious. Next I moved to confirm at what yardage the remaining reference points (crosshairs) would provide.

I continued to shot until I confirmed all the crosshair/circle points on the scope using the four 425 gr Xbolt arrows that I had with me. I was very pleased with the results and thought how lucky Jason was that knew how to accomplish this quickly.

The center crosshair/circle was zeroed at 20 yards. The 1st circle down was confirmed for 30 yards. Note it was 1" low so I adjusted up 1/2" to split the difference with the 20 yard reference. Next I moved to 40 yards and found the POI to be about 3" low. From experience knew I should try intermediate range of 35 yards. That was the correct distance for the 2nd crosshair/circle down.

Next I moved to confirm 3rd crosshair/circle down for 40 yards. That was tested and confirmed with two shots.

Next I decided to fire each of the four arrow as 40 yards to determined the dispersion. All had POI within 1 3/4" of each other. I was pleased with these results. It was getting dark and there was about a 5 mph wind out of the left. Also note the quality of the scope isn't superior but adequate it turns out. I was impressed how well I could see the target in low light condition with the aid of the illuminated circles.

With the few minutes I had left I decided to see where the last aimpoint (top of post) of the scope would reference as for yardage. First I tried at 45 yards and had a POI about 2 inches low. So I moved the target to 47 yards based on my experience to try. That brought the POI try in for the top of the post aimpoint.

I was grinning at the results as I could hardly believe I accomplished so quickly. In past with low quality arrows and less experience I spend way too much time to achieve these good results.

In conclusion the Spectre 375 was a lucky deal that I thank Crosman for allowing me to try. Also I feel my son is very lucky that I set his crossbow for him. Now he is ready to kill a whitetail. What is a father for? Now he can spend time with his family and not experience the frustration of setting up a crossbow that I learn from.

Here is the set up I used. I hope this will help others.

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Nice review SOA. Thank you!

That $162 buy was a really great deal and I bet most folks missed it. I got one as well and I'll use it for something ;).

The Spectre is a very nice package but it still lacks in a quality scope, the trigger is still long and the return to the old school coated finger arrow retainer is disappointing. Both of those things are fixable and done right, the Spectre will hold it's own with many top shelf xbows.

Yes, your son is a very lucky young man!

This Spectre has trigger work, a TenPoint brush retainer, a XV530ir scope, BowJax limb dampners and some of Jerry's arrows.....

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TX,

Thanks for your like and post. Your bow setup and photos are excellent.

Your Spectre improvements are similar to what I would do if I were to be the owner.

My son, Jason, is a light enthusiast due to family and professional life. This bow will exceed his needs.

I found the trigger to be good pull force and stroke that allowed me to make a good smooth release in all shots. I was happy and smiled as smooth as the setup and test shot rolled out.

I agree the scope and arrows are low quality but overall the Spectre competes with many high end crossbow packages.

The Victory Xbolts arrows were up to task as expected. It was the first time these 4 were fired. I grinned as the results were better than better than expected with a new crossbow.

I was able to find the bullseye fast and make repeated accurate shots with ease using the scope. The illuminated reticle circles provide great enhancements for low light shots.

Also in comparison with the Sniper I owned the Spectre killed it.

Jason has yet to fire the Spectre due to family sickness. It will be interesting to get his feedback.

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It's been interesting to see your review and impression. Jason's readout will be as well.

This Spectre is actually the Next Gen version of the Sniper and it just didn't take off when released in 2018. I was surprised to see the very, very low "Door Buster" price of $162, which I'm sure was intended to move Spectre inventory and attract attention. Since the inception of the Sniper, I've never seen as low a price on any ManKung built xbow offered by CenterPoint. And this is arguably a better product than the Sniper with new limbs, new butt stock, ect.

The Amped looks to be the 3rd version in the ManKung line. In fact it's sold out at CenterPoint right now. The Sniper is ManKungs model XB52, the Spectre is a XB56 and now the Amped as a XB58. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the Spectre and Sniper as we move into 2020. My guess is the Sniper continues until it's popularity drops and the Spectre will slowly fade away as inventory sells out.

And I agree, I like the Spectra improvements over the base Sniper.

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Thanks for the added info on the Spectre compared to other CP crossbows. I wasn't aware the Spectre was a different ManKung model altogether over the Sniper.

The Sniper had a few items I identified which definitely needed improvement. I provided the feedback for those to CP. One in particular was the ADF level which the cocking spur hit at about the same time the latch was made. Then other was the gap between the latch and the ADF/safety which allowed the bow to reach the cocked position before setting the ADF/safety. I had an incident happen where I accidently fired the bow once due to the ADF/safety not being set. I proved the bow could be cocked by making the string latch without setting the ADF/safety device. Another item which needed improvement on the Sniper was the limbs. There was something about the limb material which seem to affect the vertical zero over time. When I shot the bow after a few months it would need adjustment for a 2" variance.

If I had originally purchase the Spectre instead of the Sniper I might not have been looking for better.

The competition in crossbows is amazing right now. We have so many bows on the market it really difficult to determine what is best to purchase without experience and the reviews on line. Even then it isn't easy. My background helps alot with recognizing design features which are superior to others. Unfortunately there will always be something which one design includes which might not be possible to have on another. In that case we have to go with the one that has the most we like.

The butt stock on the Spectre for example is much better than the one on my Ripper but it works well enough with tuning.

I likely will have a chance to shot the Spectre before Jason. It is still setting in my garage. It nice to be retired.
 

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Thanks for the added info on the Spectre compared to other CP crossbows. I wasn't aware the Spectre was a different ManKung model altogether over the Sniper.

The Sniper had a few items I identified which definitely needed improvement. I provided the feedback for those to CP. One in particular was the ADF level which the cocking spur hit at about the same time the latch was made. Then other was the gap between the latch and the ADF/safety which allowed the bow to reach the cocked position before setting the ADF/safety. I had an incident happen where I accidently fired the bow once due to the ADF/safety not being set. I proved the bow could be cocked by making the string latch without setting the ADF/safety device. Another item which needed improvement on the Sniper was the limbs. There was something about the limb material which seem to affect the vertical zero over time. When I shot the bow after a few months it would need adjustment for a 2" variance.

If I had originally purchase the Spectre instead of the Sniper I might not have been looking for better.

The competition in crossbows is amazing right now. We have so many bows on the market it really difficult to determine what is best to purchase without experience and the reviews on line. Even then it isn't easy. My background helps alot with recognizing design features which are superior to others. Unfortunately there will always be something which one design includes which might not be possible to have on another. In that case we have to go with the one that has the most we like.

The butt stock on the Spectre for example is much better than the one on my Ripper but it works well enough with tuning.

I likely will have a chance to shot the Spectre before Jason. It is still setting in my garage. It nice to be retired.
Ha! I'll join that retirement team any day now when my lotto picks hit. Or maybe in 2016. ;)
 

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Ha! I'll join that retirement team any day now when my lotto picks hit. Or maybe in 2016. ;)
Good luck on that lotto pick. The lottery is a big stretch with the odds. I stopped donating because of the odds. My sister beat the odds a couple of years ago on a state scratch off to the tune of $1M. She deserved it because she worked hard and her hubby didn't take care of her SS benefits like he should with being a full time housewife to his farming.

I won the lottery during the VN war when they used our birthday to pick guys to serve at the peak. I was ready to go after completing my preliminary test and on hold basically. Then the admin in Washington decided to use the lottery system rather than quota. I was lucky twice and got big numbers to past the action.

As for retirement I saved the right way by investing in the markets.

By the way that way a cool take on the Bobcat.
 

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I have an update on the Spectre 375.

A few day ago I noticed the center serving was being cut on the string from the sharp corners of the latch. I notified CP support and shared a photo of the damage. CP support sent me a return shipping label to send the crossbow in for repair.
That is a very good response. I prefer they actually apply a nice smooth radius (1/16" at least) to each latch edge as opposed to sending another crossbow with the same style sharp edges. We will see!

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I have an update on the Spectre 375.

A few day ago I noticed the center serving was being cut on the string from the sharp corners of the latch. I notified CP support and shared a photo of the damage. CP support sent me a return shipping label to send the crossbow in for repair.
That is a very good response. I prefer they actually apply a nice smooth radius (1/16" at least) to each latch edge as opposed to sending another crossbow with the same style sharp edges. We will see!

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Here is a follow up to the above cut serving issue.

Just a few days ago the Spectre 375 cross was received from CP. The string was replaced which is good. Too bad they didn't do anything for the frayed/cut seving cause. The latches are the original which have almost not radii on the latches. So I expect this bow will again have the same issue with cut serving.

Here is a photo of the latch edge which are cutting the servings.

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What do you use for string / cable treatment and rail lube?
 

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I have used a few things. Right now I am using Allen string wax. It has to be melted on because it is hard. But once applied it last better than anything. As for rail lube I use Horton rail lube. The same tube has lasted for years. Its a silicon gel. I use a little of it on the serving where this issue occurs. Only I didn't on this bow because it was new. It only took about 35 shoots to cut the serving like that.
 

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Nice review Spot On. As a newbie who has not owned or shot a crossbow before, it was especially helpful for me. I picked up a Specter on sale from Midway right after Christmas for $209. While not $160, it was still a good deal I think. Sighting in was pretty easy and accuracy is very good in my opinion but my drops concern me. I am using the supplied scope with a reticle consisting of 4 circles/ crosshairs and supplied centerpoint bolts with field tips. The 3 bolts with tips weigh between 373.2 and 373.5 gn.
I sighted in at 20 yards then moved to 40 yards. Bolts consistently hit 12-13” lower using the main reticle at 40 yards. With minor adjustment, I could use the 4th (bottom) circle to hit the target at 40 yards. I re-zeroed at 40 yards then moved to a 60 yard target with the same result. While accuracy remained within a 3” circle, the drop seems excessive.
If my rough math is correct, that is about a 1” drop for 5 feet of travel. The turret markings according to the scope are “1 click=1/4” per 100 yards” which I found to be of little help.
Any shared thoughts would be appreciated.
 

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Do you by any chance have a speed dial scope on your bow? It sounds like you do. If you do sight in at either 20 or 30 yards using the turrets to get dead on. Once dead on move your target out 20 yards farther and then shot an arrow at a spot near the top of your target using the main crosshair. Now without an arrow on the bow aim at the same dot with the main crosshairs and set you second hash mark under the main crosshair dead on the arrow you shot using the speed dial. You should be pretty close to dead on now. If at 40 or 50 yards you are low turn the speed dial down a little, if high turn it up some.
 

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Nice review Spot On. As a newbie who has not owned or shot a crossbow before, it was especially helpful for me. I picked up a Specter on sale from Midway right after Christmas for $209. While not $160, it was still a good deal I think. Sighting in was pretty easy and accuracy is very good in my opinion but my drops concern me. I am using the supplied scope with a reticle consisting of 4 circles/ crosshairs and supplied centerpoint bolts with field tips. The 3 bolts with tips weigh between 373.2 and 373.5 gn.
I sighted in at 20 yards then moved to 40 yards. Bolts consistently hit 12-13” lower using the main reticle at 40 yards. With minor adjustment, I could use the 4th (bottom) circle to hit the target at 40 yards. I re-zeroed at 40 yards then moved to a 60 yard target with the same result. While accuracy remained within a 3” circle, the drop seems excessive.
If my rough math is correct, that is about a 1” drop for 5 feet of travel. The turret markings according to the scope are “1 click=1/4” per 100 yards” which I found to be of little help.
Any shared thoughts would be appreciated.
Jason, I understand what you are going thru sighting in the scope provided.
Here is what I did because the reticle scheme didn't match the bow speed and 424 gr arrows at hand.
I zeroed at 20 with the center reticle. Then I had to hunt the others. The 4th reticle aligns with 40 yards. For the 2nd and 3rd reticle I moved towards the target until I the POI was was determined for those reticles. It could be odd values such 26 yards for #2 and 33 yards for #3 reticle. This you must determine by experiment shooting. Your arrow weight is different than mine so good luck.
You can switch to variable power/speed crossbow scope which will allow you to dial in the reticle scheme to match your arrow speed and weight.
Unfortunately Manufactures/designers don't match then up for us which sucks. I have dealt with too many times so I expect it.
 

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Jason about your calculations of 1" drop for each 5' of travel. The arrow drop isn't a linear trajectory. It is curved to as the arrow speed slows the arrow drops more quickly. In fact in the 40 yd range and beyond the arrow drops much more per feet than at prior yardages.
To get a good image I suggest you Google the subject "arrow ballistics " to help.
 

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Do you by any chance have a speed dial scope on your bow? It sounds like you do. If you do sight in at either 20 or 30 yards using the turrets to get dead on. Once dead on move your target out 20 yards farther and then shot an arrow at a spot near the top of your target using the main crosshair. Now without an arrow on the bow aim at the same dot with the main crosshairs and set you second hash mark under the main crosshair dead on the arrow you shot using the speed dial. You should be pretty close to dead on now. If at 40 or 50 yards you are low turn the speed dial down a little, if high turn it up some.
Thx again. No speed dial on this scope. It is something I need to consider and will use your recommendations.


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Jason, I understand what you are going thru sighting in the scope provided.
Here is what I did because the reticle scheme didn't match the bow speed and 424 gr arrows at hand.
I zeroed at 20 with the center reticle. Then I had to hunt the others. The 4th reticle aligns with 40 yards. For the 2nd and 3rd reticle I moved towards the target until I the POI was was determined for those reticles. It could be odd values such 26 yards for #2 and 33 yards for #3 reticle. This you must determine by experiment shooting. Your arrow weight is different than mine so good luck.
You can switch to variable power/speed crossbow scope which will allow you to dial in the reticle scheme to match your arrow speed and weight.
Unfortunately Manufactures/designers don't match then up for us which sucks. I have dealt with too many times so I expect it.
I like the idea of the variable speed scope. Sounds like the reticle distances are consistent between our supplied scopes. That makes me feel better. I’ll get back out and do a little more tweaking as weather permits. Thanks for the input.


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Jason about your calculations of 1" drop for each 5' of travel. The arrow drop isn't a linear trajectory. It is curved to as the arrow speed slows the arrow drops more quickly. In fact in the 40 yd range and beyond the arrow drops much more per feet than at prior yardages.
To get a good image I suggest you Google the subject "arrow ballistics " to help.

Spot, good point. I understand and look forward to checking out arrow ballistic data. Thx.


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