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That may well be pix of a virus, but you don't KNOW it's a covid 19 virus, since you aren't all-knowing (are you, o supreme one?), all you can do is BELIEVE what you are shown is factual. Only God knows what you people THINK you know.
You would think that people who are vaxed would relax a little, but they can't. They're scared crapless that there's the possibility of the longterm negative effects of an untested, unapproved substance that they allowed to be injected into their bodies before seeing all the suppressed information. After the information came to light, they've denied it, they've tried to hide the data, they've tried to discredit the doctors who have spoken out about it, they continue to browbeat and intimidate those who disagree, while realizing they cannot undo what they've done. Heck, I'd be scared crapless too, and they keep feeding on their own fear. The only comfort they get is telling themselves "Oummmmmmm..... I'm trusting the science......I'm trusting the science...... I'm trusting the science...."

Since misery loves company, it helps them to know that what could happen to them, will also happen to you if you get the vax. If that wasn't true, they'd just shut up and go away, saying "well I tried but they won't listen". But they keep posting their beliefs based on information designed to deceive, as though they were real facts. Just pitiful.
 

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"Health experts think it may have originated in bats and then passed to humans, possibly via another animal species." LOL

Sure glad it didn't originate in some lab in China somewhere. Why, that would prove "health experts" wrong!
 

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I will tell you why....
Because it's just another Virus and I wasn't specifying it as a flu but generalizing this virus as just another virus that everybody can lose their minds over.
Every time it's the end of the world and it never is. It is NEVER as bad as it is portrayed.
SARS and the Swine Flu were the horrors (as reported) that would take us all down. Seems every decade (or more often) there is some new super virus to cause mass hysteria.
Every time, it's the same result. The people with one foot in the grave die and very few others.
This time is no different, as to the virus. What is different is the response.
If it were not for the internet, you wouldn't even be talking about this, as you are today and therefore, you and others wouldn't be so all consumed by it.

Hysteria.
Clearly your opinion about this virus is that it’s mass hysteria and way overblown. Might that be because you haven’t lost anybody close to you, such as friends, family members or relatives from this pandemic?

I’ve personally experienced all of the above before vaccinations were available. But let me tell you as bad as that is, it’s nowhere near as bad as what I’ve seen first hand of the unfortunates who have survived the virus with permanent disabilities. Disabilities such as respiratory lung damage requiring oxygen tanks in order to breath normally again, permanent muscular damage in the lower extremities preventing running, blood clotting problems and even permanent brain damage, just to name a few.

Does any of this sound anything like the results of any flu you know of? Or maybe you think these things are all a part of the hype?

If so, you’re welcome to come to New York and New Jersey where this virus hit hard before vaccines were available. I can send you straight to the hospitals that are still treating these unfortunate people that survived COVID.

Maybe it would be worth your time to contact some of the doctors, nurses or families of those involved with the patients or staff at the hospitals throughout Missouri these days. See how many of them fall into your categories of old, weak or suffering from other conditions?

My last point is regardless of whether or not you’re capable of understanding it or not each and every one of these people who died or were permanently negatively affected by this virus had families, friends and others who loved them, so they weren’t worthless or needless people. They didn’t need to be eliminated so they died either because no vaccine was available to them!

That’s entirely preventable today. These days it’s due to nothing other than pure ignorance!
 

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Show me the virus.
And I'm not joking here.
When your eyes are capable of seeing something that’s only 3 microns in size let me know and I’ll show you the virus. If you’re really interested in seeing it you can stop by any COVID test lab and they’ll be more than happy to give you a birds eye view.
 

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"Health experts think it may have originated in bats and then passed to humans, possibly via another animal species." LOL

Sure glad it didn't originate in some lab in China somewhere. Why, that would prove "health experts" wrong!
Realistically, what does it matter where the virus originated from or how it mutated to affect humans? It doesn’t have anything to do with where we are or what we need to do to protect ourselves or our families going forward.

These are just abstract talking points that are likely to be debated for years to come. To see the comments in an article that was published by Who Knows or Who Cares provided no credibility to the topic.
 

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Getting chipped is nice as tidy, if you can trust the goverments, turns out you never can.
You really need to get your head out of your tail and use some common sense. You’ve been watching way to much sci-go.

In the technology field we only developed the first small GPS units in the last few years. These were developed by private companies, not by the federal government. Small gps means 2” x 2” plus the antenna.

Where or how you’ve convinced yourself that somebody has the technology to shrink these things into a size small enough to fit into a needle is beyond laughable.

You might want to consider watching a little less TV!
 

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Honestly ?!?!?!?
You know that these are computer-generated images, made by a design studio. Or don't you :oops: ?

Here my proof unicorns do exist:
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When your eyes are capable of seeing something that’s only 3 microns in size let me know and I’ll show you the virus. If you’re really interested in seeing it you can stop by any COVID test lab and they’ll be more than happy to give you a birds eye view.
Sounds like you never ever have looked into the procedure the virologists euphemistically call "virus isolation". Nor do you know or understands how a PCR test works, what it proves, and what it not proves. So your position boils down to an appeal-to-authority justification, fear-porn induced zeal, and blind faith.

One of us will most likely pay a heavy price for his misconception of reality.
Carefully read the package leaflet of your experimental Covid shot to know what I mean.
 

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Honestly ?!?!?!?
You know that these are computer-generated images, made by a design studio. Or don't you :oops: ?

Here my proof unicorns do exist:
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Sounds like you never ever have looked into the procedure the virologists euphemistically call "virus isolation". Nor do you know or understands how a PCR test works, what it proves, and what it not proves. So your position boils down to an appeal-to-authority justification, fear-porn induced zeal, and blind faith.

One of us will most likely pay a heavy price for his misconception of reality.
Carefully read the package leaflet of your experimental Covid shot to know what I mean.
Once again, your comments and point of view are totally irrelevant to these discussions. Not being a virologist or in the field of medical research I have zero need to understand how virus isolation and a PCR Tests work. All I need to know is how to follow the advice of the 1,000's upon 1,000's of doctors and specialists in this area of medicine and be aware of the warnings and advice of those nurses and doctors in the hospitals on avoiding this virus threw the vaccines available.

Again, you get completely off topic and attempt to delve into areas and things that have absolutely no barring on whether or not people should be getting vaccinated for the welfare of themselves and their families. I was an engineer by trade, not a doctor or pharmacist, but it's certainly not required to make sound decisions.

As I stated in my prior threads, you disagreeing with me means absolutely nothing since this is an argument you can't win! You can only lose by not getting vaccinated, however by you attempting to tell other people not to get vaccinated and by publishing false information you are directly putting them and their families in harms way. I stated clearly if you wish to argue with somebody why don't you just drop a dime and call your family physician to see if you can get him or her to agree with you? We both know that's something you won't do because you already know the answer before you make the call. So instead you waist everybody else's time by coming on these forums and posting your misguided opinions about these things.

Myself and my family are all fully vaccinated and like the millions of other people who've been thru the process we have followed the advice of our doctors and those in the medical field. On the other hand, you are going against the advice of the professionals in the field of virus research and medicine. I suppose this is all based upon all your years of study in the field of medicine along with your medical license and other credentials?

As for the worthless pictures Adobe Photoshop and other similar applications have been around for a long time now, so what's your point?
 

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Those who don't get vaccinated is like firewood for the virus to keep mutating over time. Without the source of unvaccinated people the virus dies and thus no mutations or virus. We could snuff out the fire for now and the future if we all got vaccinated. The delta variant I believe is up 300% in Mississippi. That could of been zero cases and zero deaths,

People whom don't get vaccinated kind of act like a Typhoid Mary. They are feeding the fire,thus contributing to more deaths.

Those whom don't want it are keeping the variant-mutations alive, possibly the new didn't have to be that way norm. The new variant is showing it is infecting more younger people also.

People didn't get vaccinated because of Trump and CPAC events.
Great input for a difficult situation because so many have closed their minds to facts based on data and science because they somehow don't understand it and choose to listen less intelligent reasons or do nothing.
Well done!
Many have already blasted you because they refuse to comprehend useful information. They called it BS because of mis information based on BS.
Meanwhile Delta V will have it's way. More population lost, more impact on the economy, more grief, no BS!
 

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Clearly your opinion about this virus is that it’s mass hysteria and way overblown. Might that be because you haven’t lost anybody close to you, such as friends, family members or relatives from this pandemic?

I’ve personally experienced all of the above before vaccinations were available. But let me tell you as bad as that is, it’s nowhere near as bad as what I’ve seen first hand of the unfortunates who have survived the virus with permanent disabilities. Disabilities such as respiratory lung damage requiring oxygen tanks in order to breath normally again, permanent muscular damage in the lower extremities preventing running, blood clotting problems and even permanent brain damage, just to name a few.

Does any of this sound anything like the results of any flu you know of? Or maybe you think these things are all a part of the hype?

If so, you’re welcome to come to New York and New Jersey where this virus hit hard before vaccines were available. I can send you straight to the hospitals that are still treating these unfortunate people that survived COVID.

Maybe it would be worth your time to contact some of the doctors, nurses or families of those involved with the patients or staff at the hospitals throughout Missouri these days. See how many of them fall into your categories of old, weak or suffering from other conditions?

My last point is regardless of whether or not you’re capable of understanding it or not each and every one of these people who died or were permanently negatively affected by this virus had families, friends and others who loved them, so they weren’t worthless or needless people. They didn’t need to be eliminated so they died either because no vaccine was available to them!

That’s entirely preventable today. These days it’s due to nothing other than pure ignorance!
must have been horrible to see hundreds and thousands coughing in they respitoty machines
 

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Maybe it would be worth your time to contact some of the doctors, nurses or families of those involved with the patients or staff at the hospitals throughout Missouri these days. See how many of them fall into your categories of old, weak or suffering from other conditions?
My first wife (previously mentioned) is in NY/NJ area (westchester) and I am well aware. I am also well aware that the incompetence of officials (such as the Governor) caused more death and destruction that the virus was capable of on it's own.
Every medical professional (seemingly) knew that what was being done (as a matter of policy) would cause mass spread and death, yet nobody had any ability to fight back against those directives. The virus is bad but not as bad as how it was made to be by the idiots running the show.

These areas did this to themselves. This is evident in the fact that those states which did not cram nursing homes full of sick patients, had no such ill effects to their population centers. Dont blame the virus for the destruction caused by ineptitude.

And I guess you missed the part where I mentioned that both of my wifes are nurses? I know plenty enough to speak on this subject.
 

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Realistically, what does it matter where the virus originated from or how it mutated to affect humans? It doesn’t have anything to do with where we are or what we need to do to protect ourselves or our families going forward.

These are just abstract talking points that are likely to be debated for years to come. To see the comments in an article that was published by Who Knows or Who Cares provided no credibility to the topic.
It matters because it's the same kind of crap you've been telling us are "facts". Now you want to walk it back. That was a quote lifted out of an article that Dale posted as an example of "facts" you two claim to "know" and want others to swallow as you have done.
Scared crapless and I don't blame you since you can't undo what you've done to yourself. I hope nothing happens to you guys, but I hope you don't mind if I observe from a distance.
 

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I hope nothing happens to you guys, but I hope you don't mind if I observe from a distance.
Agreed ...
And I like to add, I stopped arguing with white-coat and uniform worshippers some while ago.
One either has an inquiring mind and wants to learn and know - or not.
Falling back on groupthink and following the leader is always easier than independence.
Though this approach has occasionally backfired severely, especially in the last century.
 

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im sure many missed my sarkasm from previous post, so here to clarify:

1. damages into lungs caused by regural flu vaccines, forced upon many
2. putting sick and consious people into ventilation

this is from my memory and i did not read that article: 1/4th dies in respitory machines
1/4th gains permament lung damage and other permanent and severe health disorders
1/4th gets mild damage and 1/4 walks away healthy

cautions used to put people into these were severe and never to be used lightly, which were changed suddenly

A constellation of adverse effects and complications may be associated with mechanical ventilation
 

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Clearly your opinion about this virus is that it’s mass hysteria and way overblown. Might that be because you haven’t lost anybody close to you, such as friends, family members or relatives from this pandemic?

I’ve personally experienced all of the above before vaccinations were available. But let me tell you as bad as that is, it’s nowhere near as bad as what I’ve seen first hand of the unfortunates who have survived the virus with permanent disabilities. Disabilities such as respiratory lung damage requiring oxygen tanks in order to breath normally again, permanent muscular damage in the lower extremities preventing running, blood clotting problems and even permanent brain damage, just to name a few.

Does any of this sound anything like the results of any flu you know of? Or maybe you think these things are all a part of the hype?

If so, you’re welcome to come to New York and New Jersey where this virus hit hard before vaccines were available. I can send you straight to the hospitals that are still treating these unfortunate people that survived COVID.

Maybe it would be worth your time to contact some of the doctors, nurses or families of those involved with the patients or staff at the hospitals throughout Missouri these days. See how many of them fall into your categories of old, weak or suffering from other conditions?

My last point is regardless of whether or not you’re capable of understanding it or not each and every one of these people who died or were permanently negatively affected by this virus had families, friends and others who loved them, so they weren’t worthless or needless people. They didn’t need to be eliminated so they died either because no vaccine was available to them!

That’s entirely preventable today. These days it’s due to nothing other than pure ignorance!
You and your family must be pictures of health. Never smoked, never done drugs, never drank alcohol, eat fast food/soft drinks regularly, don't exercise regularly, not obese/overweight, never worked in a health compromising job, never killed or wounded anybody accidentally or on purpose. If not, I am impressed. If not, your a hypocrite. All the above are preventable and can lead to death or disabilities. I have lost or have relatives and friends that died/suffered from all of the above.

You cannot force people into compliance, our constitution does not allow it, period! Your attempt to shame people probably would be more convincing if you or your friends were a picture of health and did none of the activities above. Don't know if you did or not.

I am not making light of the virus, but I do question its widespread mass killing and damaging ability. If that makes me one of the "paranoid group", then you should put your label on me now. This seems to be what happens now days anyway, right before they get cancelled.

Ignorance is obvious in many facets of life. I can turn on the TV and cite massive examples daily (and this is just from politicians).

BTW I do many of the examples above, just not to excess.
 
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