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Food plots are always a gamble. It was wet back in July so I planted Brassica kinda early. It got up good,,but then,,August came. NO Rain all august. Brass slowed down and deer chomped it to the dust. So much for Brass this year. Could still plant rye,,oats,,wheat in Sept,,but has to get real wet. Ground hard dust now a foot down! My clover is dried up too. Apples on trees. They may just be my only plot by November. Funny -Food plots are Officially OK,,,not considered "Baiting"...To me planting anything just to feed deer, IS Baiting.
 

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I plant a 1/4 acre plot out back every year for over 20 years and have not killed a deer back there yet and doubt that I will ever do so. I had no idea I was baiting them. I thought I was feeding them year round. :rolleyes:
Now if I were going to bait them I wouldn't spend all the money planting every year. A few bags of corn would do well in a spin feeder each year and probably work a heck of a lot better. ;)
 

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Thanks for that reply robertyb, I agree,a bit of corn or something spread around alot less work,,cost,,and sweat. Unfortuantely in many states,,including mine,,that,,,is considered, "Baiting" and is illegal. What I think is crazy, is you can plant 20 acres of corn just for the deer,,set stands at strategic entry points,,set cameras out to see when deer arrive,and this is not considered Baiting? Th'rowing out some food by hand is baiting. It's all baiting to me. Artificially putting food out just for animals. This whole crazy way just huntin deer has gone with tech cameras,,elevated hunting houses,,,with windows,,,all the big horn maddness,,,promoting poaching. simple goin huntin is hard to find anymore.
 

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When food is available year round there is no guarantee that you will see deer in your plot during daylight hours. Sometimes I might go for several weeks at a time not seeing any deer in my plot but my camera shows them in there at night. When they are feeding during the day it is mostly does, fawns and young bucks. About the only time I see a 3 1/2 year old or older buck in daylight back there is when the rut is going on. I just recently replanted mine and thought I had run all the deer off but there were 3 bucks and 4 does feeding in it at first light this morning for a few minutes. Largest buck was a 1 1/2 YO 5 point.
 

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I hunt the rut. I am surrounded by corn or soybeans,,,by Nov they are harvested so deer seek a plot. I have 100 acres of beans around me but the deer still chomped all my Brass turnips to dust. They like variety. Turnips quit growing due to the drought or they might have out grown the chomping. No telling how long this drought will last. Have Sept to replant rye,oat,wheat. Deer will like it come Nov. I want to attract a few does in NOV. The does will bring in the bucks. You only need a couple to do so.
 

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I have never had a food plot fail in total. All have produced dead deer or deer sightings.
Several people equate a small food plot to baiting.
There are many differences. They are obvious. But yes the goal of many plots is to kill deer.
The contribution to the environment of a food plot is much greater than that of a bait site.
I have never seen a bait site healthier and than a food plot.
The plot is also healthier for the deer over a bait site....but a dead deer is a dead deer.
 

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You guys might be surprised. Most of the deer I see coming into my plots feed on the wheat/oats/clover/etc rather than the corn after winter arrives and frost has withered all the green growth and the deer have had their fill of acorns. Atleast that's been my observations since feeding corn became legal.
 

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Yep for sure greens are a big draw when growth is frosted or froze. The thing is weather is becoming a problem. constant threats of drought. Climate may not be changing,,but is a challenge anymore to get a food plot up and growing,,least where I am.
 

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What state are you in? I thought about EVERYBODY was getting plenty of rain lately?!?
 
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Check out the Drought Monitor Gabo,,,,Iowa is in BAD shape! 90% of the state is in some kind of drought! I have had .5 for Aug. Friend .2 And no rain in sight.!!
 

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Check out the Drought Monitor Gabo,,,,Iowa is in BAD shape! 90% of the state is in some kind of drought! I have had .5 for Aug. Friend .2 And no rain in sight.!!
Ooooh!! I just did!o_O Looks like you guys are having it pretty hard this year. We were in that situation a year or so ago so I know how youre feeling about planting plots. If nothing else, have your dirt ready and throw out some rye seed if/when it rains. Doesn't even need turning under. It aint that expensive and IMO it's better to try something than just to do nothing.:rolleyes:
 

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Ooooh!! I just did!o_O Looks like you guys are having it pretty hard this year. We were in that situation a year or so ago so I know how youre feeling about planting plots. If nothing else, have your dirt ready and throw out some rye seed if/when it rains. Doesn't even need turning under. It aint that expensive and IMO it's better to try something than just to do nothing.:rolleyes:
Use winter (grain - cereal ) rye and not rye grass.
 

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Way ahead a you guys. I have had many drought years here know all about rye. Have rye. Oat. And winter wheat seed sitting here. Problem is. Need consistent rain. Can’t just throw out seed and have it sit there. Worse yet it gets a little moisture then germs and dies. And there is little hope for moisture here through mid Sept. maybe longer. !!!
 

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Well, me and my son got 4 small food plots in yesterday and this evening on 2 different tracts of land. 3 of them have wheat, rape, kale, turnips and clover. One only has wheat. Tomorrow I have two more to get in on a 3rd property and we'll be done. Those will be primarily wheat but I'll ad turnips and clover sparingly. I hope it doesn't wash me out tonight cause I have everything loaded onto the trailer and hitched to the 4 wheeler (my only access) and ready to go. Oh! I also have 200 #'s of corn for the 2 feeders and cards to switch out in my game cameras (I do this with my cameras every week). Might be a long, hot (but fun) day tomorrow.;):)
 

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Well, me and my son got 4 small food plots in yesterday and this evening on 2 different tracts of land. 3 of them have wheat, rape, kale, turnips and clover. One only has wheat. Tomorrow I have two more to get in on a 3rd property and we'll be done. Those will be primarily wheat but I'll ad turnips and clover sparingly. I hope it doesn't wash me out tonight cause I have everything loaded onto the trailer and hitched to the 4 wheeler (my only access) and ready to go. Oh! I also have 200 #'s of corn for the 2 feeders and cards to switch out in my game cameras (I do this with my cameras every week). Might be a long, hot (but fun) day tomorrow.
Wow, good work. Sounds like a lot to keep up with but plenty of options when the leaves change colors..
 
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Well, me and my son got 4 small food plots in yesterday and this evening on 2 different tracts of land. 3 of them have wheat, rape, kale, turnips and clover. One only has wheat. Tomorrow I have two more to get in on a 3rd property and we'll be done. Those will be primarily wheat but I'll ad turnips and clover sparingly. I hope it doesn't wash me out tonight cause I have everything loaded onto the trailer and hitched to the 4 wheeler (my only access) and ready to go. Oh! I also have 200 #'s of corn for the 2 feeders and cards to switch out in my game cameras (I do this with my cameras every week). Might be a long, hot (but fun) day tomorrow.;):)
Once those wheat only plots get going good you should consider over seeding with grain rye. I have had wheat plots freeze out and the deer quit using them so it is best to have something green growing that is pretty much freeze resistant.
 

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When I first began deer hunting never heard of food plots or bait. GOD fed the deer! You just picked a good trail and waited. The good old days. Human against animal. NO leverage to the human side. It truly WAS Fair Chase. No cameras,,no hunt houses with heaters. You had to tough out the elements just like the deer.Much has changed. Now person with the best food plots,,Most $$ to make em,,,biggest bait piles,,,draws the most game. Neighbor competition. High fence , High Cash hunts, some up to $20,000!! Alot driven by gettin the biggest Bone,,so you can look like those TV hunters or magazine poses. Much has changed in simple deer hunting.
 

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You just picked a good trail and waited. The good old days.
In the 1934 there were estimated to be 12 deer in Tennessee and 6 in North Carolina. All were in the Great Smokey Mountain National Park the year the park was created.
The 1st year I killed a deer, most people hunted seasons without seeing a buck deer. Limit was 1 deer buck only. Now it is 2 bucks per season and 3 does a day with 140000 hunter killed deer per year with total population of 900000. .
These may be the good old days.
 
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