Horton eliminated from Ten Point Website?
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To get the RDX patent privileges?
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I think that remained with Scorpyd.
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He stated Patent Privileges, not the Patent itself. I believe his statement was correct.
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Ten Point used RDX technology in the TP branded bows since the Horton Brand and still in their Wicked Ridge line of bows so I don't see where that comes into play.
From what I read it was a love/hate relationship.
TP did not use RDX technology until the Horton purchase went through. Part of that Horton purchase was the licensing to the RDX design that Horton had bought previous on their own. Probably the biggest reason TP wanted the Horton rights.
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I believe Horton own site (under the branding Horton Crossbow Innovations https://www.hortoncrossbows.com/) still links back to Tenpoint... at least if you select “blog” from the drop down menu, it goes to the Tenpoint blog.
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You will find websites lingering long after they are dead.
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I think it was a lot more than just acquiring the name... they also acquired "machinery and equipment, trademarks and patents, and licenses."
You can read pretty much the entire story here:
https://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/about-us/
You can read pretty much the entire story here:
https://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/about-us/
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Correct, once they own the brand, they own all the contracts and licenses, as well agreements with others, they own everything that went with. It was also a totally new platform to the company, probably why it was tested and refined under the Horton name till it was refined to the point it became Tenpoint Quality.
As we have seen with all the firsts in Tenpoint RDX bows, they are still quite unique when compared to OTHER RDX bows! Quite different in propulsion systems, size, cocking choices, than the bows designed under the Horton label but in a slightly fancier and more costly brand with more and different options!
Much like Wicked Ridge! A very good reliable bow, but manufactured under a different name and offering a lot less frill's for a much reduced price, while offering the same reliability accuracy and platforms we have seen in the Tenpoint name.
As we have seen with all the firsts in Tenpoint RDX bows, they are still quite unique when compared to OTHER RDX bows! Quite different in propulsion systems, size, cocking choices, than the bows designed under the Horton label but in a slightly fancier and more costly brand with more and different options!
Much like Wicked Ridge! A very good reliable bow, but manufactured under a different name and offering a lot less frill's for a much reduced price, while offering the same reliability accuracy and platforms we have seen in the Tenpoint name.
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Again, I ask WHY? For a few years?
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I know for a fact they purchased Horton to obtain all licenses and patents they owned. I also know many of those were the owner of Tenpoints work! Rick Bedner was one of the original folks that started Horton, and responsible for much of their early success, as he has proven how successful he can make a crossbow company on his own. I also know he was very corruptly robbed of his work, and position by legal, but very backstabbing unethical means.
In the end he not only left to start the obviously most successful crossbow company in the USA, and ended up with everything he was sow wrongfully robbed of years ago. I am sure those contracts, patents, and licensing were all assets he wanted, but one has to think taking it from a group that failed miserably without him was much to his satisfaction, and to bring it back solely under the same name, while dissolving it into the two brands he was already solely responsible for may just of been the icing on the cake to bring out the most successful models under that name they had ever brought to market.
Speculation yes, but those things did happen. Once that was done, and his RDX design came to fruition, I don't think there was much financially, to have a third name compete with two successful brands he was already responsible for. It would only make sense to continue with a reliable no frills line under the Wicked Ridge name, and of course the premium top of the line bows branded under the great Tenpoint name!
I just don't think once he made his statement under the Horton name their was much to gain in having a line that quite frankly he already had covered with both ends of the crossbow so widely covered!
Like I said, knowing the history and the facts, this would just be my thoughts, take it back, make it solvent, then liquify any hint of anyone else, and make it known all his past work truly was his, and now his alone! Just my thoughts, and if I'm right,,,,, Great job Rick!
In the end he not only left to start the obviously most successful crossbow company in the USA, and ended up with everything he was sow wrongfully robbed of years ago. I am sure those contracts, patents, and licensing were all assets he wanted, but one has to think taking it from a group that failed miserably without him was much to his satisfaction, and to bring it back solely under the same name, while dissolving it into the two brands he was already solely responsible for may just of been the icing on the cake to bring out the most successful models under that name they had ever brought to market.
Speculation yes, but those things did happen. Once that was done, and his RDX design came to fruition, I don't think there was much financially, to have a third name compete with two successful brands he was already responsible for. It would only make sense to continue with a reliable no frills line under the Wicked Ridge name, and of course the premium top of the line bows branded under the great Tenpoint name!
I just don't think once he made his statement under the Horton name their was much to gain in having a line that quite frankly he already had covered with both ends of the crossbow so widely covered!
Like I said, knowing the history and the facts, this would just be my thoughts, take it back, make it solvent, then liquify any hint of anyone else, and make it known all his past work truly was his, and now his alone! Just my thoughts, and if I'm right,,,,, Great job Rick!
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Well guys... it is what it is now. I loved my Horton crossbows. Now I love my Tepoint crossbows.
I watched crossbows evolve over the last 40 or so years. Don't give 2 poops anymore about the internal or external politics of it all. There were some great folks at Horton and there are great folks at Tenpoint.
I'm glad they took crossbows from clunky old death traps to the refined pieces of ART they are now. I hunted many years with really crummy crossbows.
I say God bless old Horton and God bless Tenpoint and thanks for everything they have done crossbows.
I watched crossbows evolve over the last 40 or so years. Don't give 2 poops anymore about the internal or external politics of it all. There were some great folks at Horton and there are great folks at Tenpoint.
I'm glad they took crossbows from clunky old death traps to the refined pieces of ART they are now. I hunted many years with really crummy crossbows.
I say God bless old Horton and God bless Tenpoint and thanks for everything they have done crossbows.
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