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I’ve been scratching my head ever since I got my stryker solution Sl390 back from warranty with lighter pull weight limbs and lost around 32 to 39 fps VS the original limbs. with The original limbs it was quoted 390 fps with 385 grain total weight bolts. I’m now shooting 358 fps with the factory supplied 390 grain bolt. Im sure it’s still plenty powerful and fast enough for my hunting needs. I started doing some looking for lighter bolts to gain some speed back. I found some killer instinct hyper velocity light bolts around 370 grains Total weight with a 100 grain point. I shoot 100 broad heads so I’d drop 20 grains. I only gained 7 fps from dropping to 390 grains from 413 so imo I’m guessing I’m only going to get to approximately 368 fps or so with 370 grains total bolt weight. Guessing just leave it alone and shoot the current 413 grain hunting bolts I have at 351 fps. I am sure it will be less stress my xbow limbs and my guess the deer won’t know the speed difference either. Decades ago I never weighted bolts. I did the other day. I can tell you with my old slow Horton Hunter xs the lightest bolt I use to shoot out of it was the one that flew the best and always seem to get pass-throughs and deer. it weighted 280 grains without a 100 grain field point. It seems like everybody here is worried about adding more bolt weight to gain kinetic energy. I’m sure that helps out when you’re shooting heavier boned game and trying to break bones or hitting tough stuff going through an animal. But to me within 25 grain difference between the xx75 Easton bolts I use to shoot i could never tell any difference. The lighter bolts did group more accurately. I understand if you’re going to shoot 100 grain added weight bolt(500 plus) for something heavier than a whitetail. But I only shoot deer. I have a hard enough time now pulling out a 390 to 413 grain bolt Out of my block target at 358 fps. With the original 390 fps limbs it buried my bolts about an inch deeper or so. If I used a lighter, faster, bolt with less kinetic energy that means less penetration on my Block target an easier pulling out?…I doubt it. My guess is a lighter,faster, bolt would work just fine, but I don’t want to stress out my crossbow limbs In the process. I used to shoot overdraw for years with super white short arrows with bone arrows and never had an issue. But my guess is if I dropped a 370 grains I’m still not gonna get anywhere near my 390 ft./s anyway so it’s probably defeating the purpose and only gaining a half inch of last drop at 40 yards? I’m guessing I’d be better off just to buy a faster crossbow. So should I try the 370 grain bolts out of my stryker and Horton or just stick to the heavier current bolts I have?
 

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I am not sure if I would recommend doing it but to regain some of the speed that you lost, you "MAY" he's able to add some twists to the strings. There is an older thread, I think in the Barnett section, of someone super charging there speed. It may be worth a search. Especially since you only want to gain 30-40 ft./sec..
 

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Over the years, manufactures have dropped their advertised arrow-point combination weights from 400 grain
to 370 grain to increase speed but do not recommend shooting that light of an arrow point combination.

To increase the speed of a crossbow that uses cams and the "Y" cable design: 1) add equal 1/2 or full twists to the
single end of the cable. One does not want the "Y" end of the cable to twist up. If one can not get enough speed then,
2)add equal 1/2 or full twists to both the upper and lower "Y" section of the cables. Doing this keeps the cams level.

Suppose one purchases a new bowstring that comes in on the short side. Installing this bowstring will back the cams
off resulting in a lower speed. No problem. Just advance the cams as mentioned above.

Wishing you all the best.
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I am not sure if I would recommend doing it but to regain some of the speed that you lost, you "MAY" he's able to add some twists to the strings. There is an older thread, I think in the Barnett section, of someone super charging there speed. It may be worth a search. Especially since you only want to gain 30-40 ft./sec..
I did this the other day with an original genesis bow I bought at the thrift store last week for $19.99. Took it apart and spun the cable around bunch of times. Didn’t count..but quite a bit. I can tell it has a noticeable difference at the max adjusted pull weight now. Figured for $20 if it doesn't hold up I’ll toss it. Figured I’d used it for snap shooting at carp and wanted to see if I could gain some pull weight by doing so. Seemed to do the trick. I’ll have to pull it back on my scale and see how much past the 20 pound max factory pull weight I ended up with.
 

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I don’t own a bow press. For emergencies I’ve used ratcheting tiedowns to replace a string, but that’s on lighter pull compounds and turning the weight all the way down first. Is there a portable crossbow press that isn’t gonna cost an arm and a leg? That way I can experiment spinning my string. Also, what kind of velocity gain from 353 fps to???… by twisting my strings?
 

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You need to add twists to the single end of your cables,not your string to advance cams and gain speed. Adding to the string slows you down. I would not recommend shooting under 400 gn. Hard on limbs. That 413 you were shooting a good hunting weight. By advancing the cams on my TS 370 I took it from 358 fps to 378 fps with a 400 gn. When I replaced my oem [email protected] with customs I had Perry24 make the cables 1/8 shorter and fully serve. Advancement built in.
 

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No idea they wouldn't tell me. The closest information I got out of them is my limbs came with a 93 thickness from Factory and they installed a 77 thickness. I guess until somebody with another model Bowtech crossbow tells me they have a 77 stamped on their limb tips is about the only way I will know for sure what model they were meant for. Bowtech told me it was a universal set for the solution models after I called them out on them. My guess is it shoots 360 ft per second with a 385 grain Arrow since it shot two feet per second less with a 390 grainer. So realistically I'm about 30 ft per second slower then when I had the original set of Limbs on it.
 

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I've been back and forth with BowTech several times it's the only set of Limbs they have in existence left for the solution models so I'm dead in the water unless somebody has a heavier set of 93 marked limbs I could buy from them
 

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I add weight to increase momentum and pentration.

Kinetic energy is worthless unit of measure in archery. Arrows/broadheads/bows/crossbows dont kill by impact force.

My excalibur suppressor is rated as 355 fps with factory bolts I'm sure. I'm shooting 560ish grains with a 100 grain broadhead. Its WAY slower then your crossbow and I still haven't found a unalert animal that can dodge or stop the bolt.

Next month if everything goes right it will kill its first turkey with a arrow/bolt I killed 2 deer with this year.

All that to say. Your overthinking it. Just shot your normal weight arrow like before and go stack up some meat.
 
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