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I'd let some time fly on this design. Not saying it won't work but it's a departure from normal.

285 lbs limbs.... WOW! That's recurve territory ;)
 

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I'd let some time fly on this design. Not saying it won't work but it's a departure from normal.

285 lbs limbs.... WOW! That's recurve territory ;)
If it' released. Last year Barnett had the hyper Flite design with inward cams at the ATA and was never released.

Got that right on the recurve comment.
 

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This is the first Barnett that has really caught my eye. Then I saw the weight and price and was less impressed. Is the weight bare bow like all the others do?
Robert it's only 11.5lbs. :D:eek:;)
 

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Here is what my Barnett Ghost 410 weighs and the equipment that it is set up with for a comparison.
Total weight with accessories: 10.7 pound.
Accessories:
Bushnell AR 223 3 x 12 x 40 Drop Zone scope with side parallax.
HHA Optimizer. A level bubble in the riser and an off set one on the scope.
4 each 1/16" plates with a total of 4 small stove bolts to re enforce the riser.
Arrow quiver bracket but the quiver is not attached.
Barnett Crank Cocking Device.
Two each Revelation limb dampeners, one on each side set tight to the riser.
Modified Ten Point String Dampening System.

Two major things Barnett had to do was: 1)get rid of their Carbonite riser system as fiber will not stand vibration or twisting. 2)up grade to stronger limbs or build them from a higher quality product.

Last year and what is shown so far this year: trying to keep up with competition by narrowing their crossbow width and last year shortening the limbs from 12 1/2" to 11 inch, they have defeated them selves as far as increasing speed.

Building crossbows lighter is nice for the owner, but by doing so, there can be weak spots created due to less strength.

All the best.
 

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Funny thing about this new bow is, it's a big departure from what they showed us last year, other than the pylon mounted cams, this design seems a little less clustered and simplified. Now doubt it's gonna be porky, but with the short overall length it might not feel that bad.
 

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Here is what my Barnett Ghost 410 weighs and the equipment that it is set up with for a comparison.
Total weight with accessories: 10.7 pound.
Accessories:
Bushnell AR 223 3 x 12 x 40 Drop Zone scope with side parallax.
HHA Optimizer. A level bubble in the riser and an off set one on the scope.
4 each 1/16" plates with a total of 4 small stove bolts to re enforce the riser.
Arrow quiver bracket but the quiver is not attached.
Barnett Crank Cocking Device.
Two each Revelation limb dampeners, one on each side set tight to the riser.
Modified Ten Point String Dampening System.

Two major things Barnett had to do was: 1)get rid of their Carbonite riser system as fiber will not stand vibration or twisting. 2)up grade to stronger limbs or build them from a higher quality product.

Last year and what is shown so far this year: trying to keep up with competition by narrowing their crossbow width and last year shortening the limbs from 12 1/2" to 11 inch, they have defeated them selves as far as increasing speed.

Building crossbows lighter is nice for the owner, but by doing so, there can be weak spots created due to less strength.

All the best.
Totally agree. If you want speed it's gonna cost you in other areas (at this time) in the Xbow industry.
 

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FYI: I have heard those arrows are legit accurate and +/-.001.
 

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9.5 lbs with OEM scope. Quiver goes in my backpack . Sub 9lb with red dot.
 
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Here are a few explanations:
1)if one were to try and cock the crossbow by hand (no rope cocker) one would be pulling 285 pound.
2)using the rope cocker reduces the pull by possibly 1/2 which would be 143 pound.
3)using this style crank cocking system with the two gears mentioned: a)possibly makes for faster cranking, b)a two gear system reduces the effort required to crank the high draw weight crossbow because it uses a different gear ratio (two gears instead of one).

My Barnett Ghost 410's, Barnett Buck Commander BCXtreme 386 Ultra Lite and the 2018 Barnett Droptine STR all have 185 pound draw weight limbs. These crossbows are equipped with the Barnett Crank Cocking Device which states on the box it reduces the effort to cock the crossbow to 17 pound.
This is just a single drum system with a designated cocking string diameter. Over time, one of the string loops broke. I was unable to purchase a replacement string from Barnett, so I found a stronger one in a hardware but it was slightly larger in diameter. I installed it and when I had the crossbow approximately at the half way cocking position, it got very hard to crank. My first thought, was something failing on the crossbow. Checking, there was still lots of room on the spool to allow for more string.

I swapped back to the crank system with the proper size cocking string and no problem. What I found was going to the larger diameter cocking string changed the ratio of the crank cocking system, there fore making it harder to crank and cock the crossbow.
This works similar to up grading to a larger, stronger cable on a 12 volt winch (quad or truck mounted). The winch motor has to work harder as by changing cable size one has changed the ratio as to how the cable winds up as to what the winch was originally designed to for.

In regards to the hooks not fitting properly, check to see which position they are to be installed: facing down or facing up. Some crossbows may work either way even if they were meant to be installed a certain way. The reason I mention this is I recently received a Carbon Express X-Force Pile Driver 390 crossbow that has 185 pound draw weight limbs. On top of the rail-stock are labels stating to install the hooks "face down".

With my Barnett Crank Cocking Device, it is a sled unit where the hooks are joined with a rod and have to be installed face down.

All the best.
 

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Here are he specs from Barnett's website:

HYPERFLITE™ EVO 420, Note: CCD built into the rail stock.
To me this is a recurve box that has cams. Quite different approach from what I've seen so far.

SPECS
Length 31.5-32.75
Weight 10.9
Axle to Axle (in) 9.3
Draw Weight (lbs) 285
Kinetic Energy (ft lbs) 149
Power Stroke (in) 14.25
Speed (fps)* 420: (Hyperflight Arrows weighing in at 404grain range)
Trigger Type TriggerTech
 
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i don't get the reson behind the design,its expensive its heavy 10.3 lbs. ..285 lb. limbs just to get 420 ....we already have 400 plus bows with a lot less drawieght...just imagine you get a bow for 500bucks it shoots 400fps,you pay 1500 for a bow that shoots 420fps that means in one second the 1500 bow has gone 20 feet further big deal
 
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