[SEW]

"...wealth-damaged urban idotes..."...?

I , likely, like many on this board, grew up relatively poor, financially-wise in a very rural, agricultural area. All through my youth, from 1st grade on, I picked cotton, going to schools with split terms so we’d be out during cotton picking season, hauling hay (picking up sq bales weighing 90-100#s and placing them on the 4’ hi flat trailer , push mowing yards, etc. Much like a # of the more senior members of this board - differing only by the types of jobs we worked.

Wanting to escape the financial poverty of my youth and having an insatiable desire to understand how things worked & so went to college and majored in 3 physical science subjects while supplementing my finances working as a mechanic. Then 2 years moonlighting working as a mechanic while working as an oil chemist, 10 years USAF, 4years dental school, 35 years as a dentist, civilian flight instructor and charter pilot.

During this time, I lived in multiple urban areas around rich and poor urbanites (Sacramento, Memphis, Las Vegas (2x), Mt Home, Id, Oxford England, Baton Rouge), etc, rural England and back here in the sticks, Rural Arkansas.

What have I learned about people? First off, there is classical knowledge (knowing facts) but knowledge, in and of itself, doesn’t make you wise. We all know some educated idiots as well as some uneducated idiots. Then there is wisdom which many of us correctly think of as just being smart. This is relatively unrelated to formal education, place of birth, ethnicity, rural/urban, etc. Lots of “wisdom” is shown on this board. That’s why we come here.

Hunting is my only hobby. I have rich, urbanite hunting friends and poor rural hunting friends and visa versa. Statistically, I find little difference in the quality of hunting. Outstanding hunters from both ends of the spectrum as well as slobs from both ends.

Personally, I am intensely anti-racist in any form which includes or extends to financial status and living local. We are all God’s creation and need to not be judging His creations.

Those are my thoughts and I’m sticking to them.😊

 

[robertyb]

Here is a pic of me throwing up another bail to my friend as we worked our summer job. Pretty sure I was 14 in this pic taken from an old local newspaper that his sister found and sent me a copy of recently.
I totally agree with SEW in his post above.

 

[Iron Duke]

"...wealth-damaged urban idotes..."...?

I , likely, like many on this board, grew up relatively poor, financially-wise in a very rural, agricultural area. All through my youth, from 1st grade on, I picked cotton, going to schools with split terms so we’d be out during cotton picking season, hauling hay (picking up sq bales weighing 90-100#s and placing them on the 4’ hi flat trailer , push mowing yards, etc. Much like a # of the more senior members of this board - differing only by the types of jobs we worked.

Wanting to escape the financial poverty of my youth and having an insatiable desire to understand how things worked & so went to college and majored in 3 physical science subjects while supplementing my finances working as a mechanic. Then 2 years moonlighting working as a mechanic while working as an oil chemist, 10 years USAF, 4years dental school, 35 years as a dentist, civilian flight instructor and charter pilot.

During this time, I lived in multiple urban areas around rich and poor urbanites (Sacramento, Memphis, Las Vegas (2x), Mt Home, Id, Oxford England, Baton Rouge), etc, rural England and back here in the sticks, Rural Arkansas.

What have I learned about people? First off, there is classical knowledge (knowing facts) but knowledge, in and of itself, doesn’t make you wise. We all know some educated idiots as well as some uneducated idiots. Then there is wisdom which many of us correctly think of as just being smart. This is relatively unrelated to formal education, place of birth, ethnicity, rural/urban, etc. Lots of “wisdom” is shown on this board. That’s why we come here.

Hunting is my only hobby. I have rich, urbanite hunting friends and poor rural hunting friends and visa versa. Statistically, I find little difference in the quality of hunting. Outstanding hunters from both ends of the spectrum as well as slobs from both ends.

Personally, I am intensely anti-racist in any form which includes or extends to financial status and living local. We are all God’s creation and need to not be judging His creations.

Those are my thoughts and I’m sticking to them.😊

 

[Dirt fahmah]

When calling someone an idiot it is imperative that you spell the word idiot correctly.

 

[Iron Duke]

I started ... working when I was 13 years old cleaning offices. Opened my own first bank account.

 

[SEW]

When calling someone an idiot it is imperative that you spell the word idiot correctly.

😊. Priceless!

 

[wis-redneck]

Here is a pic of me throwing up another bail to my friend as we worked our summer job. Pretty sure I was 14 in this pic taken from an old local newspaper that his sister found and sent me a copy of recently.
I totally agree with SEW in his post above.

Been there done that., Including threshing oats, picking stones, and shoveling well you know.
Back to thread.

 

[pewpew54]

Been there done that., Including threshing oats, picking stones, and shoveling well you know.
Back to thread.

I use to work at the spca cleaning after 70-80 dogs if that counts(i didnt get paid for my farm work)

 

[SEW]

The hay bales are heavier when there’s an angry snake in the bale.

 

[Jack Pine]

You mast are right with what you write there, but the problem are those who think they are so good that they give animals a miserable joking death or ensure that every day of their lives becomes a torment for these animals. The problem is not those who know their weapon and know how to handle it, the problem is the lazy opportunity crossbowmen who have no idea about the ballistics of their arrows and believe they can still hit well through branches and other distraction factors. There is enough footage to see what is partially done, that's the problem.
Also an arrow on 100y can be suitable for woad, but who seriously injures his prey, does not carry out a successful search and leaves seriously injured animals in the forest, should never be allowed to hunt again.
There is a big difference whether I have to hunt to feed my clan or whether I hunt because I feel like drinking and only drive away my boredom with it.
To compare the hunts of the natives with those of wealth-damaged urban idotes is pathetic

I'm sorry, I'm just not sure what yer sayin. Must have lost somethin in translation?

 

[Raziel]

@Jack Pine

You mast are right with what you write there, but the problem are those who think they are so good that they give animals a miserable joking death or ensure that every day of their lives becomes a torment for these animals. The problem is not those who know their weapon and know how to handle it, the problem is the lazy opportunity crossbowmen who have no idea about the ballistics of their arrows and believe they can still hit well through branches and other distraction factors. There is enough footage to see what is partially done, that's the problem.
Also an arrow on 100y can be suitable for woad, but who seriously injures his prey, does not carry out a successful search and leaves seriously injured animals in the forest, should never be allowed to hunt again.
There is a big difference whether I have to hunt to feed my clan or whether I hunt because I feel like drinking and only drive away my boredom with it.
To compare the hunts of the natives with those of wealth-damaged urban idotes is pathetic

Thank you, yes something seems to have gone wrong. In essence, it should say "or whether I am bored and want to distract."
Sometimes I don't understand what translation programs do with my own words.
I have no problem with hunting and also not with the fact that in some places bow and crossbow are used. I just can't stand it when I stumble over pictures again and again with severely injured animals by stupid or conceited or drunk hunters. When I do something, I prepare myself, my equipment and everything I can influence in the best possible way so that something like this cannot happen. And if something like this happens, then I don't leave until this problem is solved. Every crap I do I have to put in order.
I and languages are things that only work to a limited extent. I apologize for any confusion that has arisen.

 

[Road_Clam]

When calling someone an idiot it is imperative that you spell the word idiot correctly.

Quote of the year award !

 

[jon.henry755]

To me it’s all about the conditions, if there’s no wind, the animal is calm, no brush in the way, the shooter is good enough to make the shot, and the equipment is up to the task, a 100yd shot very doable. There are a lot of hunters who wound deer at 20yds because the conditions aren’t right for the shot. It’s not the distance that matters as much as the conditions or circumstances.

Perfect response and dead accurate!

 

[jon.henry755]

You mast are right with what you write there, but the problem are those who think they are so good that they give animals a miserable joking death or ensure that every day of their lives becomes a torment for these animals. The problem is not those who know their weapon and know how to handle it, the problem is the lazy opportunity crossbowmen who have no idea about the ballistics of their arrows and believe they can still hit well through branches and other distraction factors. There is enough footage to see what is partially done, that's the problem.
Also an arrow on 100y can be suitable for woad, but who seriously injures his prey, does not carry out a successful search and leaves seriously injured animals in the forest, should never be allowed to hunt again.
There is a big difference whether I have to hunt to feed my clan or whether I hunt because I feel like drinking and only drive away my boredom with it.
To compare the hunts of the natives with those of wealth-damaged urban idotes is pathetic

So in summary what you have described in your above statements in actuality are not shooters or hunters at all. You’ve very accurately described idiots who bought crossbows and hunting licenses and found their way into an area where animals live!

somebody above stated it well when they said it’s also about conditions. When everything else has been done to achieve accuracy then conditions dictate whether or not to take a shot. That’s a very individual choice, but personally I wouldn’t go into an area where I thought there might be idiots on the loose.

 

[jon.henry755]

"...wealth-damaged urban idotes..."...?

I , likely, like many on this board, grew up relatively poor, financially-wise in a very rural, agricultural area. All through my youth, from 1st grade on, I picked cotton, going to schools with split terms so we’d be out during cotton picking season, hauling hay (picking up sq bales weighing 90-100#s and placing them on the 4’ hi flat trailer , push mowing yards, etc. Much like a # of the more senior members of this board - differing only by the types of jobs we worked.

Wanting to escape the financial poverty of my youth and having an insatiable desire to understand how things worked & so went to college and majored in 3 physical science subjects while supplementing my finances working as a mechanic. Then 2 years moonlighting working as a mechanic while working as an oil chemist, 10 years USAF, 4years dental school, 35 years as a dentist, civilian flight instructor and charter pilot.

During this time, I lived in multiple urban areas around rich and poor urbanites (Sacramento, Memphis, Las Vegas (2x), Mt Home, Id, Oxford England, Baton Rouge), etc, rural England and back here in the sticks, Rural Arkansas.

What have I learned about people? First off, there is classical knowledge (knowing facts) but knowledge, in and of itself, doesn’t make you wise. We all know some educated idiots as well as some uneducated idiots. Then there is wisdom which many of us correctly think of as just being smart. This is relatively unrelated to formal education, place of birth, ethnicity, rural/urban, etc. Lots of “wisdom” is shown on this board. That’s why we come here.

Hunting is my only hobby. I have rich, urbanite hunting friends and poor rural hunting friends and visa versa. Statistically, I find little difference in the quality of hunting. Outstanding hunters from both ends of the spectrum as well as slobs from both ends.

Personally, I am intensely anti-racist in any form which includes or extends to financial status and living local. We are all God’s creation and need to not be judging His creations.

Those are my thoughts and I’m sticking to them.😊

Very well stated SEW!

 

[SEW]

Robert,
If that was hay, that was one heavy bail!!
Straw, not so much.

 

[lonny996]

Robert,
If that was hay, that was one heavy bail!!
Straw, not so much.

When I was a kid I used to run a hay crew 5 guys we got 20 cents a bail split 5 ways was 4 cents a bail per guy. I still have to put up my own hay because you can't get this younger generation to do manual labor what a shame.

 

[robertyb]

Robert,
If that was hay, that was one heavy bail!!
Straw, not so much.

It was hay. I think we were paid 50 cents an hour back then in 1964.

 

[SEW]

Almost exclusively round bales here now and use spikes on the front end loader for lifting.

 

[pewpew54]

When I was a kid I used to run a hay crew 5 guys we got 20 cents a bail split 5 ways was 4 cents a bail per guy. I still have to put up my own hay because you can't get this younger generation to do manual labor what a shame.

Hey now, im 29! Was a teenager when i did farm stuff. It is hard to find nowadays. Big reason why murica will collapse soon. Good quote is “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”