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Just found this out today about excalibur crossbows.

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A good friend is the buyer for all Fin,Fur,Feather stores archery equipment, he's been with them 25 years, they have an archery mini factory at the Ashland location set up by Ten Point I'm told.I talked to him today about the Excaliburs , they no longer are carrying them after years, reason being they don't sell well, not enough bells and whistles for the modern day archer. He did say they rarely had one in their repair shop, and they were as accurate as anything currently produced. I still find this somewhat perplexing.
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A good friend is the buyer for all Fin,Fur,Feather stores archery equipment, he's been with them 25 years, they have an archery mini factory at the Ashland location set up by Ten Point I'm told.I talked to him today about the Excaliburs , they no longer are carrying them after years, reason being they don't sell well, not enough bells and whistles for the modern day archer. He did say they rarely had one in their repair shop, and they were as accurate as anything currently produced. I still find this somewhat perplexing.
They are not fast enough for the general crossbow shooters now and to wide for lots ! Just right for us old farts and pretty easy to work on!
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A few things to consider with any product:
1)in an area with a low demand, too costly to keep the item in stock.
2)if people are not interested in certain products, to costly to keep in stock.
3)with product design etc. changing, old stock must be sold some how.

If one goes to some of the larger stores, in the last few years, they are bringing
in different products to stay in business. Some areas, stores are closing as it is
too costly to keep them. Increasing purchasing on line due to Covid has changed
how a lot of people are now making purchases. This requires less staff in a store
and many items are now shipped from a ware house.
Amazon and EBay has taken a lot of business away from some stores.

Wishing you all the best.
Take care.
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Not surprising. Speed, even if excess, still sells better. Narrower is an advantage. Cranks are an advantage. I still shoot deer with 30-30s and 30-06s which are well past 100 years old. Dead works for me. I have 1 Matrix 330 and 1 Matrix 380. Two bows, 100% spares on hand. I've changed a string out in the stand without issues and without wasting time. I had a 20 FPS deficit from spec'd speed, called Excalibur, they sent new limbs and I swapped them out in minutes when they arrived. Zero cost to me. You don't get better than that!
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Younger folks have grown up with video games killing zombies and what not. I’m sure these new fangled fast bows are Uber appealing to them. But they are also need it now folks. The maintenance required is most likely something not known to them. An Excalibur fan is always going to be just that. Something’s you just can’t explain or even get them to listen to. There will always be an Excalibur hanging in my house. And, I also like the new stuff. But if I only could have one, it would be an Excalibur.
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Not surprising. Speed, even if excess, still sells better. Narrower is an advantage. Cranks are an advantage. I still shoot deer with 30-30s and 30-06s which are well past 100 years old. Dead works for me. I have 1 Matrix 330 and 1 Matrix 380. Two bows, 100% spares on hand. I've changed a string out in the stand without issues and without wasting time. I had a 20 FPS deficit from spec'd speed, called Excalibur, they sent new limbs and I swapped them out in minutes when they arrived. Zero cost to me. You don't get better than that!
Very true! Today it's all about small and size. Excaliburs , for the most part, are wider and slower, but they have more than enough horsepower, extremely durable, easy to maintain and handle well. What's not to like......wider than avg and slower than many
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I could see where somone interested in getting their "first" crossbow would be intriqued with all the new-fangled complicated looking crossbows of today, and the SUPER speeds they can produce. I would bet that if money wasnt an object with a new wannabe crossbower that 99 times out of 100 an Excalibur wouldnt sell hung right beside all the newest compounds on the market today.

Now that said...After a few years though some of those same people learn to APPRECIATE the slower, wider limbed Excaliburs that hardly ever need anything done to them except to just wax the string & shoot 'em.;)
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Diff strokes for diff folks. Excals are a great starter crossbow. They are also a great crossbow for your lifetime. Speed is the main draw-back on them compared to Compound models. I have owned n shot the Excals since 1996, still have a good one, i shoot Dacron Flemish strings on it. WOW, they be slow ! I am after the great enjoyment of hunting, just me. I no longer even own a CF rifle for hunting or target shooting. All i have are ML's n some be rock sparkers
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About 12 years ago, a couple of guys at my hunt club I was a member of had crossbows. It seemed like whenever we were there they were having issues. String issues, cable issues, etc. I had given no thought to getting my own crossbow until one of my Sgt.'s was needing to whittle down some of his things to move back to Hawaii after retirement. An Excalibur Ibex was on the auction block for him. I got the Ibex, a target, extra string, etc. from him. My first day at the hunt club with it I left to go to my stand and the guys were cussing having issues yet again with their crossbows. I went up in the stand, hunted all day and came back. The guys never made it out that day. Over the years they kept buying more and more desirable bows, faster bows, etc. And they still bi&4ched and moaned about various things with each bow they had issues with. I still have, and only have Excalibur's. Those guys worked on their crossbows more in 1 day than I have on all of mine in 12 years.

Excalibur's are workhorses. They are easy to maintain. Easy to fix. They may not be the latest and greatest. They may not be the fastest. But by God they are just as deadly as any crossbow available on the market. I WILL ALWAYS have an Excalibur. Right now I have 3. A year from now I may have 4. I don't know. Dependability. Accuracy. Serviceability. And built to last. As Excalibur says---Different for a reason! They work and work well.
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Certainly regional like everything else. They are moving more bows, year over year, than they ever have before. Around me, everyone used Excalibur. Just the way it is.
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I can see, from the perspective of a shop owner, that Excal may be somewhat less desirable to sell. They aren’t (even the micros) as compact as others, especially width. They aren’t as fast, and the fastest recurves have draw weights that only fairly strong people can rope cock, though it seems that few do that anymore anyway. They aren’t going to supply the shop owner with ongoing tuning and service opportunities for additional income. From a hunter’s point of view, I hunted with Matrix width recurves many years and never had an issue in tree stands. Super reliable and as accurate as anything you can get.
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Sometimes we don't learn the value of simplicity an reliability over whiz-bang until later in life.
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Excalibur's have been around a good number of years, and still seem to have their fan clubs, Absolutely nothing wrong with them. They will kill a deer just as dead as a super sonic heat seeking crossbow that costs about five to six times the cost.
It is just human nature, that some people have to have the latest and greatest new and improved trust me whatever the cost crossbows. It does seem to be reality that the more complex the crossbows become, the more problems and more stringent and costly maintenance comes with them.
It really comes down to personal preference. :)
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I like Excaliburs i still have a Bulldog 360 i like it better than any excalibur i have ever used. And to be clear i haven't had them all. I plan on giving the compounds a break this fall and just hunt it.

I can see where most guys would gravitate to compounds. Buddy of mine bought a $400 ( i think) PSE about 4 years ago never had a seconds worth of trouble out of it. Still uses it today and drives Swat X Mags through every deer he has shot slipping up on 10 deer. He's never even replaced the center serving. When you talk to him about new bows he just says WHY.

I thought a long time ago Excaliburs should have followed Traditional bows and built really pretty bows with wood stocks. Hit the guys that appreciate the finer things in life.
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This is like ... sitting in on a Revival Meeting. 😂 :p When do yez start singing halleluiah and chanting E-X-C-A-L-B-U-R?:cool:;)
(151) Hallelujah - Lucy Thomas - (Official Music Video) - YouTube
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This is like ... sitting in on a Revival Meeting. 😂 :p When do yez start singing halleluiah and chanting E-X-C-A-L-B-U-R?:cool:;)
(151) Hallelujah - Lucy Thomas - (Official Music Video) - YouTube
I like Pentatonix's version a little better :) -

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The newer Tenpoints are real solid and might even be less farting around then a recurve and limb swaps.

Whats really hurting the recurves is that you can get a true 400 f.p.s bow now for 389.00.
With a really good trigger too.
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A good friend is the buyer for all Fin,Fur,Feather stores archery equipment, he's been with them 25 years, they have an archery mini factory at the Ashland location set up by Ten Point I'm told.I talked to him today about the Excaliburs , they no longer are carrying them after years, reason being they don't sell well, not enough bells and whistles for the modern day archer. He did say they rarely had one in their repair shop, and they were as accurate as anything currently produced. I still find this somewhat perplexing.

There's a lot of things I don't understand. I sometimes think I am still stuck in the past. For example, what happened to affordable pickup trucks? Simple trucks that were cheaper than a car. It's no wonder the average vehicle age is 12.2 years old now.

The price of ATVs, UTVs, tractors, chainsaws, etc... have all gone nuts. Why on earth does someone need an ATV with 1,000 cc? I could kill myself with half that power! :)

How many different/new deer calibers do we really need? It's all marketing hype!

I've always said, "if you can't go out in the woods & harvest deer with a .30-30 Win, you probably don't belong out there!" I'm not knocking any other caliber, & I tend to use a .308 Winchester myself. I surely don't need to search beyond that to feel adequate in my deer woods.

Excalibur crossbows will maintain a following, because some of the been there & done that crowd will circle back to the simplicity of them. Meanwhile, those who want the latest/greatest will continue to exist, and the large crossbow companies bank on that!

On a positive note - Excalibur is the only crossbow I would buy from a good online retailer (Wyvern Creation). An extra set of limbs/string & I would feel set for the upcoming season. I wouldn't even be concerned about having a back bow.

I don't feel the same way about Ten Point, Ravin, or Mission. I wouldn't be as interested in buying them online, and I would feel more need for a backup bow.

I'm still primarily a compound bow shooter who has a used crossbow sitting in my closet. When I become primarily a crossbow user, I don't rule out Excalibur in the least. If I reach that point in life where I can't rope cock a crossbow very well, I may be drawn to the Ten Point Accuslide. Who knows maybe Mission will come out with something new in the next ten years, too! :)

Scorpyd is selling crossbows with zero dealer support (outside of Wyvern Creations). Heck, huge companies like Ford are considering this, too! Times are changing all around us!
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A good friend is the buyer for all Fin,Fur,Feather stores archery equipment, he's been with them 25 years, they have an archery mini factory at the Ashland location set up by Ten Point I'm told.I talked to him today about the Excaliburs , they no longer are carrying them after years, reason being they don't sell well, not enough bells and whistles for the modern day archer. He did say they rarely had one in their repair shop, and they were as accurate as anything currently produced. I still find this somewhat perplexing.
Sex sales.
This discussion is very similar to the Ford vs. Chevy vs. Ram conversation. Everybody seems to think they have the best but what we fail to see is it is a pickup truck and they are all very similar and dependable. It is just your preference.

Tenpoint, Ravin, Excalibur and others can be discussed at length just as a pickup truck is discussed. But I am sure I would never convince a Tenpoint owner that Excalibur was better, and a Ravin owner would never convince me that a Ravin is better. They all have pluses, and they all have minuses. What we need to see is they are all crossbows and we are all happy with ours.

We are each happy with our own and that is as it should be. If you aren't happy with yours you are still looking and probably aren't discussing which is better or best. Personally, I just don't see spending $2000+ for a bow shooting 400fps when I can get just as good a 400fps Excalibur for almost $1000 less or more.

Think about it for a second. 400 fps. Let's say the sake of argument that after all is said and done we are really getting 370fps. And let's say your average deer shot is 35 yards away. 35 yards is 105 feet. So, a bow shooting 370 fps has placed an arrow all the way through the deer in around about less than 1/3 of a second. By the time you pull the trigger that deer is dead and he/she doesn't even know it yet.

Speed is not the most important part of the equation in hunting. Shot placement and arrow tip is. If you never practice with whatever you have, and you make a crappy shot, it doesn't matter if it is 300fps, 400fps, or 505fps. It is still a crappy shot and you will have issues recovering your deer.

The truth of the matter is advertising does us all in. Why do we continue to buy crossbows and upgrade upgrade upgrade? The guy I sold the Ibex too is the 3rd owner and he is still killing deer with it every year. That thing is 13+ years old, big, clunky and very slow by today's crossbow standards. But someone forgot to tell the deer hanging on his wall that they were up against an old, outdated crossbow, because they are all dead.

And to close out, I will give Excalibur a shameless owner's plug here. How many crossbows 13+ years old on their third owner is still out there killing deer every year?????? With nothing ever done to it but replacing the string every other year and keeping the string waxed and the rail lubed???

And oh yeah, Ram trucks are best. Guess what I own.
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