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Bass pro has a KI Lethal 405 on sale for $199. Anybody know anything about this xbow?
 

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Picking one up this weekend - first crossbow. Looking forward to it!
 

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It's an all composite stock and not adjustable. Arrows are tomato stakes ;) and the optic is just OK. It's not a 405 fps bow even with their light arrows. Looks like KI has discontinued it or it's a Dealer only xbow.

The Sniper Elite 370 is a much better option at just a few dollars more. Someone has it on sale right now for $220. BP and Cabelas has it for $250.

Handle them both if you can.
 

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It's an all composite stock and not adjustable. Arrows are tomato stakes ;) and the optic is just OK. It's not a 405 fps bow even with their light arrows. Looks like KI has discontinued it or it's a Dealer only xbow.

The Sniper Elite 370 is a much better option at just a few dollars more. Someone has it on sale right now for $220. BP and Cabelas has it for $250.

Handle them both if you can.
... well I haven't picked it up yet, and now you have me thinking I should hold off. They do not have a Sniper 370 at the store I'm going to, however it was my runner up in my online research. Don't want to derail a KI thread chasing it, but perhaps you could post a link to another thread that speaks to your comments above? I am especially curious about the optic.

Thanks for your input - you may have helped me make a better choice.
 

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My comments are based on first hand experience with the 405. I do crossbow ProStaff work at several of the local major outdoor suppliers every fall so I see their products, assemble most of the new xbows, get to shoot them and get reviews from their staff. This xbow is a "special" right now so I spent a few minutes with it to see how it stacks up and that's why I commented in this thread.

Just to set a baseline on optics, almost all $200-$300 xbows will come with marginal scope that is setup for the factory arrow. In the case of the 405 it's the light weight arrows are too lightweight to hunt with IMO and when you step up to a 400 gn or heavier arrow the scopes hold-over reticle setup is almost useless.

Also the most "economical" crossbows lack a CNC aluminum rail as does the 405. Other observations is that the quiver is also less than ideal with a parallel mount vs side mount.

Lastly is the very flimsy "finger style" arrow retainer which is style that is notorious for needing adjustment. Out of adjustment it can allow a loaded arrow to slide when handled and in turn be a dry fire waiting to happen.
 
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My comments are based on first hand experience with the 405. I do crossbow ProStaff work at several of the local major outdoor suppliers every fall so I see their products, assemble most of the new xbows, get to shoot them and get reviews from their staff. This xbow is a "special" right now so I spent a few minutes with it to see how it stacks up and that's why I commented in this thread.

Just to set a baseline on optics, almost all $200-$300 xbows will come with marginal scope that is setup for the factory arrow. In the case of the 405 it's the light weight arrows are too lightweight to hunt with IMO and when you step up to a 400 gn or heavier arrow the scopes hold-over reticle setup is almost useless.

Also the most "economical" crossbows lack a CNC aluminum rail as does the 405. Other observations is that the quiver is also less than ideal with a parallel mount vs side mount.

Lastly is the very flimsy "finger style" arrow retainer which is style that is notorious for needing adjustment. Out of adjustment it can allow a loaded arrow to slide when handled and in turn be a dry fire waiting to happen.
Thanks! That’s exactly the kind of review I appreciate.
 

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Hold off and buy the swat xp I know it's nearly 5 times the price but you won't ever need to trade up. It will be a xbow that lasts a lifetime. I am still waiting on mine being delivered by my dealer here in the UK.
 

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If you buy a cheap xbow you will want to trade up after a year or so it false economy. Save for the better xbow. In my opinion.
 

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I bought one at Cabelas a month ago when i had to send my Excal Matrix back for warranty limb replacement. First thing i did was replace the scope with a Tact Zone and bought a half dozen extra bolts. Sighted it in with 100 grain field points the switched to 100 grain Swhackers for final tuning. Bow will shoot 2" groups all day long at 50 yards, which is probably all the further i'd shoot anyway. Trigger leaves a bit to be desired and i don't use the quiver mounted to the bow anyway. With supplied bolts and 100 grain field points and Clean Shot lighted nocks, it consistantly chrono between 387-394. Sold the scope for $50 so i had a total of $300 invested.Used it for a week and a half and got a pretty good result.

 
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