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I see absolutely nothing that’s been reported thus far at the ATA Show that I would sooner have then my Nemesis with the 2020 upgrades Dorge just provided on my ACAD System;....440 FPS with a 448 grain arrow, accuracy, simplicity, still the best trigger on the planet, plus ability to work on it myself. Just hoping the new Sig BDX/ Kilo 1600 Rangefinder compliments it as the complete rig. String serving improvements are forthcoming from Jerry, Marty & Rogue and if I was purchasing a new crossbow in 2020 I’d still be calling Rex at Scorpyd!! Just wish they would have come with a Gen 4 DeathStalker to up the performance( 425 FPS w/400 gr. arrow)and provide it with Barnsdale Limbs. Next year I’m betting Jim utilizes some of those patents he’s sitting on for something really special. For now some of their new auxiliary features will work well on my Nemesis when used out west.
 

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I see absolutely nothing that’s been reported thus far at the ATA Show that I would sooner have then my Nemesis with the 2020 upgrades Dorge just provided on my ACAD System;....440 FPS with a 448 grain arrow, accuracy, simplicity, still the best trigger on the planet, plus ability to work on it myself. Just hoping the new Sig BDX/ Kilo 1600 Rangefinder compliments it as the complete rig. String serving improvements are forthcoming from Jerry, Marty & Rogue and if I was purchasing a new crossbow in 2020 I’d still be calling Rex at Scorpyd!! Just wish they would have come with a Gen 4 DeathStalker to up the performance( 425 FPS w/400 gr. arrow)and provide it with Barnsdale Limbs. Next year I’m betting Jim utilizes some of those patents he’s sitting on for something really special. For now some of their new auxiliary features will work well on my Nemesis when used out west.
I would not be surprised if Jim comes out with a new bow way before the next show. They might have one in the works and just be keeping it quite until it is market ready. I suspect they learned a lesson last year about jumping the gun just to be in the show with a prototype.
 

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I am disappointed from what I am hearing about the 2020 ATA. I have been seriously considering the Nemesis but was waiting to see what would be new. I am very new to crossbows and want to make a smart choice. When I am looking at spending more money than I did for my Browning BAR with optics that I know I will be happy with for a lifetime. This is a tough choice for me.

So far the two things I wanted to hear about the most, a redesigned Nemesis that doesn't eat strings and some new high quality optics. I haven't heard about either.

I am not opposed to changing strings on the Nemesis once a year but more often than that is crazy to me.

There is no way in heck I am spending $3000 on a crossbow. I am having a hard time choking down the cost of the Nemesis for $1599 for a bare bow. I think I have myself talked into it, just have to pull the trigger.
 

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ApexerER,...... Call Rex & he’ll give you the details on any changes Scorpyd’s made to the 2020 model. Although not huge they will definitely improve the crossbow and supposedly help string reliability. The work Jerry at TappNation, Marty at Marty’s Custom String’s and I believe Rogue is also doing to improve serving life will also help. I just can't see spending $3k on a new high end TenPoint or Ravin when the 2020 Nemesis will give you equal and more then likely even better overall performance with the attributes I noted above that are critical for me.
 

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Mission 400 SC,....Yes, have my ACAD back from Dorge at FireNock. He added multiple new components to improve the clutch, made the clicking when winding pretty much go away, installed a new improved sled, added a label for the on/off button and put on a complete new cable. The cost was very minimal and well worth it to essentially end up with a new 2020 ACAD. Give him s call & he’ll explain it in detail to you. Well worth it in my eyes!!
 

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i would like to see a real sled anchor bracket, and not have to have any add on limb saddle details.
No way a would ever think of buying this bow if I need to modifiy it to get to work correctly.
Also will not own any bow i can get through a season or close to it on a set strings.
Even the Ravins I have will get me 3 months of heavy shooting on a set of strings now.
If they determine they need to slow it down some and lets the cables out etc. to get some better string life, Im ok with that part of it.
 

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ApexerER,...... Call Rex & he’ll give you the details on any changes Scorpyd’s made to the 2020 model. Although not huge they will definitely improve the crossbow and supposedly help string reliability. The work Jerry at TappNation, Marty at Marty’s Custom String’s and I believe Rogue is also doing to improve serving life will also help. I just can't see spending $3k on a new high end TenPoint or Ravin when the 2020 Nemesis will give you equal and more then likely even better overall performance with the attributes I noted above that are critical for me.
I agree, and I plan on calling them. I want to be prepared to place an order if I like what I am hearing and I am about 90% sure that is what I want to do but have not 100% made up my mind yet. I wish I could handle one and try and cock it. I am a little concerned because I am short, only 5'6". I don't think I will have an issue strength wise but not sure about height wise. The videos I have watched on the crank has me really not liking the crank idea, seems cumbersome and slow. Not to mention the weight added to the bow.

I have read so many of Marty and Jerry's posts about the serving wear and corrections they are working on that I feel like I know them....lol
 

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Apexer: Hope this my help you some! I tried the long rope cocker on mine and strength wise not.a real big problem but I never got it near the latch, just have to get your hands so high near your shoulders! I am 5 ‘ 10. This was with the long rope cocker. I feel like it would be a very tough pull with the short cocker on the 480. In my case the crank is the only way to go on this bow. But In the Woods this thing is a beast!
 

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Apexer: Hope this my help you some! I tried the long rope cocker on mine and strength wise not.a real big problem but I never got it near the latch, just have to get your hands so high near your shoulders! I am 5 ‘ 10. This was with the long rope cocker. I feel like it would be a very tough pull with the short cocker on the 480. In my case the crank is the only way to go on this bow. But In the Woods this thing is a beast!
Ugg, not what I was wanting to hear and what I was afraid of....Thank you for the feedback....
 

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Apexer just get the 420 instead of the 480. The 420 is plenty fast and has not had any problems that I have read about. It will be very easy to rope cock also.
I have couple reasons why I am really wanting the Nemesis. First, a lot of people have been telling me to get the deathstalker and I am sure from everything I have read about Scorpyd it is a great bow. But I am afraid if I buy it, I will be wondering what if.....2nd, I can buy a much cheaper bow and get roughly the same performance, maybe it won't be built quite as well, or have as good of a trigger but that isn't something I can say about the Nemesis. My main reason for wanting a Nemesis is, I would really like to use a single reticle scope or red dot and be able to hold center mass out to 40 yds. With all the playing with ballistic charts it looks like I can achieve that with the Nemesis never going more than +/- 2.5 inches out to 40 yds if I zero at 32 yards. To me this is important using a single site picture and when hunting in the woods I will have very little arc that I have to worry about hitting branches etc.
 

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You can do that with an crossbow at 400 fps or over. Sight in dead on at 30 yards and hold low about an inch or two at 20 and hold high 2/3 inches at 40. Just takes a couple of shots into a target to see where to hold. Even using my scope on my DS 420 when I am aiming dead on at 30 yards using the 30 yard hash mark for a mid DL shot the 40 yard mark is on for a heart shot. Maybe a 3" difference.
 

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Apexer ER.... Call Rex but rest assured of one thing, the improved 2020 ACAD that would come on any new 2020 Nemesis is a very well built product. Yes a few bugs initially that Dorge stood by but this is a very well engineered product, built to last and made with no cheap plastic components. It has titanium, stainless steel and even the covers are made out of aluminum. Spent much of my career in Tool & Die and this is a high quality, well designed unit.
 

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What’s amazing is we are discussing Skorpyd as the financial sane choice. I remember when I first started in Crossbows about five years ago Skorpyd was the financial insane choice.

How times change. That being said I love Skorpyds. I have three now. Two Silver Vents and a Nighttrain. The triggers are out of this world. The fit and finish and qualify. I just like sitting in my stand and admiring all the little bits. Like the titanium fasteners. The quality of the machining in the cams.

I don’t know if a Nemesis is in my future. I will need a crank as I age. I’m very interested in the Dorge crank.
 

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For me it took coming back to a Scorpyd Nemesis with the ACAD in 2019 after previously having a VTec & Orion(both non-crank models), then trying several other high end brand crossbows. To come back and realize just how much value add the Scorpyd’s have in terms of Reliability, Lifetime Warranty, Beautifully Balanced , Easy to Tune/Work On, Barnsdale Limbs, Titanium Fasteners & Finest Engineered Trigger in the Market is great. If I were purchasing in 2020 the Nemesis would easily be the preferred choice!!
 
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