Nemesis - Yes/No, DS 420?

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Grassy

Discussion Starter · Jan 22, 2020

I’m in Michigan so have a bit of time yet but buying my first crossbow and have been drawn to Scorpyd and TenPoint. Really like the Nemesis but see a lot of complaints on the strings. Has this been fixed/addressed? If I buy are there certain mods I need to request? Should I just get a DS 420?

For reference I’m hunting whitetail only at about 40 yards from a tree stand. Budget I’m open. I’m fine with getting nice things and taking care of them and not upgrading each year.

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DaveKeo

· #2 · Jan 22, 2020

I’ve killed plenty deer with my first crossbow which was 315fps!
I now have the Deathstalker 380. Got plenty with it as well. Love it. Very accurate. High quality. I too had my sights on the Nemesis last year and do agree the serving issues . A reason is the strong limbs and sharp pinch on serving when cocked. There are pro string makers working on improving the serving for the Nemesis as well other bows.
You can NOT go wrong with the Deathstalker 420. Mine being 380 , I’d be happy with 420. Nemesis 480 is wow. A difference? Yes. But needed ? Maybe not.
If you plan order I suggest Wyveryn Creations!! He has best package deals and can help you with choices avaiable , best scope etc. I order from him all the time and all he sells are crossbows and accessories.
https://www.wyverncreations.com

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Martymig

· #3 · Jan 22, 2020

Yes, I'm in total agreement. The DeathStalker series from Scorpyd cannot be beat ! I have the 380 also and it is a beast ! The 420 would be double beast ! You don't need anymore power than what the 420 has and it's tried and true, time tested with zero issues ! Purchasing one is a no brainer ! With the Nemesis your getting more power but that comes at a price because as I'm finding out, you get some problems with that increased power.

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CT Crossbower

· #4 · Jan 22, 2020

You also may want to consider the Aculeus 460, I bought mine in 2018, it's a beast, absolutely trouble free, accurate as hell. I just changed limbs from the original with a 206.1 deflection to some 184 deflection limbs, puts me at a 150 lber, still right around 400fps. I have bought a couple used scorpyd's, great shape, little cheaper that way, something to think about.

robertyb

· #5 · Jan 22, 2020

I am currently shooting a DS 420 and will greatly recommend it. Excellent bow.

Generator

· #6 · Jan 22, 2020

At Deathstalker (380 or 420) speeds with a 425 grain arrow, you will have more than enough KE to harvest any game animal on the North American Continent. I own a DS 380 and have 100's of shots on the original string and servings. Trouble free crossbow with proper string/bow cleaning and lubrication. Good Luck on your choice.

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ApexerER

· #7 · Jan 22, 2020

I really want a Nemesis. The deathstalker doesn't interest me. Only because I want the flattest trajectory possible if I am going to upgrade. I can't pull the trigger until I start reading they have corrected the issues. I can't hunt with a crossbow until next November so I am just holding for a solution or another bow I really want comes along that doesn't have issues.

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robertyb

· #8 · Jan 22, 2020

ApexerER said:
I really want a Nemesis. The deathstalker doesn't interest me. Only because I want the flattest trajectory possible if I am going to upgrade. I can't pull the trigger until I start reading they have corrected the issues. I can't hunt with a crossbow until next November so I am just holding for a solution or another bow I really want comes along that doesn't have issues.

Then why not buy the Scorpyd Aculeus 480? It shoots the same speed as the Nemesis and is a proven crossbow.

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ApexerER

· #9 · Jan 22, 2020

robertyb said:
Then why not buy the Scorpyd Aculeus 480? It shoots the same speed as the Nemesis and is a proven crossbow.

I have had that thought but like the Narrow platform of the Nemesis. With my luck, if I purchase the Aculeus the day it arrives on my doorstep, I will start reading about the Nemesis being corrected and be kicking myself. To me this is an important decision and a lot of money. I don't want to be kicking myself with the decision I made. The Aculeus is something I am considering.

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jason060788

· #10 · Jan 22, 2020

Absolutely love my DS 420!!!!

Tnmtns

· #11 · Jan 23, 2020

ApexerER said:
I have had that thought but like the Narrow platform of the Nemesis. With my luck, if I purchase the Aculeus the day it arrives on my doorstep, I will start reading about the Nemesis being corrected and be kicking myself. To me this is an important decision and a lot of money. I don't want to be kicking myself with the decision I made. The Aculeus is something I am considering.

I think if you're dead set on a Nemesis,then start a thread asking who has bought one this year (2020) and have them post close up pics of the front and side of the limbs/rail! If there were any backdoor changes they didn't reveal,then the newer bows will tell the tale with the string pressure. The only way at this point we will know if problems have been corrected is to see a up close pics of a NEW release!!! Oh,also VERY important,have them cock the bow and take a close pic of the rail from the side with a straight edge on it!

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dryforkbrady

· #12 · Jan 23, 2020

Tnmtns said:
bought one this year (2020)

l would go back maybe 6 months into 2019 and see if there are any trends.

Tnmtns

· #13 · Jan 23, 2020

dryforkbrady said:
l would go back maybe 6 months into 2019 and see if there are any trends.

Six months back into 2019 the new bows hadn’t even been shipped yet.

dryforkbrady

· #14 · Jan 23, 2020

10-4....just want to see any trends.....

Blooter

· #15 · Jan 23, 2020

I have a Nemesis 480 in Mossy Oak I am going to be selling. It has the AeroCrank AD aka Dorge's crank($2113), a Scorpyd soft case ($100), a spare crank handle from Dorge ($70), 2 spare strings (one from Rogue which is the stock brand $74 and one GAS $100), a Harris bipod model 25 12-25" ($125), Scorpyd sling ($40). No scope or sight being sold with it. When sighting this bow in for hunting season, I also experienced premature string failure at around 50 shots. Scorpyd sent me a new string and after about 50 more shots, it too was wearing prematurely. Neither string was horribly bad, just prematurely starting to loosen up. The bow was then returned to Scorpyd and they, according to what I am told, updated everything including the new upgrades to the crank system which I was not having any problems with anyway. Scorpyd has been fantastic about everything. I put another 50 shots through it and string is fine but I have the spare strings nonetheless. So, I have about 150 shots on it. It is in like new condition with no blemishes. Over $2600 invested. Will take $2,000 shipped. It's a great bow but I also have a Scorpyd Ventilator with the Trijicon scope that I've shot since 2012. I guess I like it better than I thought and am gonna stick with it. The Nemesis is a bit high strung for me. Don't need them both.

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Tnmtns

· #16 · Jan 23, 2020

Blooter said:
I have a Nemesis 480 in Mossy Oak I am going to be selling. It has the AeroCrank AD aka Dorge's crank($2113), a Scorpyd soft case ($100), a spare crank handle from Dorge ($70), 2 spare strings (one from Rogue which is the stock brand $74 and one GAS $100), a Harris bipod model 25 12-25" ($125), Scorpyd sling ($40). No scope or sight being sold with it. When sighting this bow in for hunting season, I also experienced premature string failure at around 50 shots. Scorpyd sent me a new string and after about 50 more shots, it too was wearing prematurely. Neither string was horribly bad, just prematurely starting to loosen up. The bow was then returned to Scorpyd and they, according to what I am told, updated everything including the new upgrades to the crank system which I was not having any problems with anyway. Scorpyd has been fantastic about everything. I put another 50 shots through it and string is fine but I have the spare strings nonetheless. So, I have about 150 shots on it. It is in like new condition with no blemishes. Over $2600 invested. Will take $2,000 shipped. It's a great bow but I also have a Scorpyd Ventilator with the Trijicon scope that I've shot since 2012. I guess I like it better than I thought and am gonna stick with it. The Nemesis is a bit high strung for me. Don't need them both.

Since your bow went back to Scorpyd and got all the upgrades can you post a picture of the front of your bow showing the string pressure please

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robertyb

· #17 · Jan 23, 2020

Your post to sell your bow should be posted to the Market Place. and not here.

Blooter

· #18 · Jan 23, 2020

robertyb said:
Your post to sell your bow should be posted to the Market Place. and not here.

OK

Blooter

· #19 · Jan 23, 2020

Tnmtns said:
Since your bow went back to Scorpyd and got all the upgrades can you post a picture of the front of your bow showing the string pressure please

I'll get a picture tonight after I get home from work.

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ApexerER

· #20 · Jan 23, 2020

Blooter said:
I have a Nemesis 480 in Mossy Oak I am going to be selling. It has the AeroCrank AD aka Dorge's crank($2113), a Scorpyd soft case ($100), a spare crank handle from Dorge ($70), 2 spare strings (one from Rogue which is the stock brand $74 and one GAS $100), a Harris bipod model 25 12-25" ($125), Scorpyd sling ($40). No scope or sight being sold with it. When sighting this bow in for hunting season, I also experienced premature string failure at around 50 shots. Scorpyd sent me a new string and after about 50 more shots, it too was wearing prematurely. Neither string was horribly bad, just prematurely starting to loosen up. The bow was then returned to Scorpyd and they, according to what I am told, updated everything including the new upgrades to the crank system which I was not having any problems with anyway. Scorpyd has been fantastic about everything. I put another 50 shots through it and string is fine but I have the spare strings nonetheless. So, I have about 150 shots on it. It is in like new condition with no blemishes. Over $2600 invested. Will take $2,000 shipped. It's a great bow but I also have a Scorpyd Ventilator with the Trijicon scope that I've shot since 2012. I guess I like it better than I thought and am gonna stick with it. The Nemesis is a bit high strung for me. Don't need them both.

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