Next Generation Trigger Updates And Retainer Brushes

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TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · Jan 8, 2020

I'm sure we will see what CenterPoint has in store for 2020 as ATA rolls out. Rumor is that not much will change in their lineup until mid-year but we will know for sure in just a few days.

The Sniper trigger work started all this several years ago and since it's added the next version of the trigger in the Spectre, Dagger, Amped (Patriot & Heat) and the CP400. All of the triggers in these bows can be notable improved and the finger style arrow retainer can be updated to a modern brush style as well.

The Amped for example has a 5/8" pull length and it takes about 5 lbs to break the trigger. That can be fixed to have a pull length of 1/8" and break pressure lowered to 3 lbs.

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Trigger work for any of the new CenterPoint bows (Sniper being the exception) has to be done in house. A DIY kit is not available.

Trigger work is $115 (return shipping included).
Brush work adds $75

I'm a tech guy by day and do this for fun and it helps to pay for expensive arrows

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Reach out if I can help.

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Huntersthompson

· #2 · Jan 8, 2020

Is this the price for the bear

TX_RDXguy said:
I'm sure we will see what CenterPoint has in store for 2020 as ATA rolls out. Rumor is that not much will change in their lineup until mid-year but we will know for sure in just a few days.

The Sniper trigger work started all this several years ago and since it's added the next version of the trigger in the Spectre, Dagger, Amped (Patriot & Heat) and the CP400. All of the triggers in these bows can be notable improved and the finger style arrow retainer can be updated to a modern brush style as well.

The Amped for example has a 5/8" pull length and it takes about 5 lbs to break the trigger. That can be fixed to have a pull length of 1/8" and break pressure lowered to 3 lbs.

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Trigger work for any of the new CenterPoint bows (Sniper being the exception) has to be done in house. A DIY kit is not available.

Trigger work is $115 (return shipping included).
Brush work adds $75

I'm a tech guy by day and do this for fun and it helps to pay for expensive arrows .

Reach out if I can help.

Is this the price for bear strata as well?

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 8, 2020

Huntersthompson said:
Is this the price for the bear

Is this the price for bear strata as well?

The BearX Constrictor Strata? If so, yes.

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Huntersthompson

· #4 · Jan 8, 2020

So if I decide to buy one can I just have it delivered to you to save on shipping? Then you send to me when done?

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 8, 2020

Huntersthompson said:
So if I decide to buy one can I just have it delivered to you to save on shipping? Then you send to me when done?

Sure, I'd be happy to do that.

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SavedWretch

· #6 · Jan 9, 2020

I have a Patriot that I might be interested in getting a trigger job done after our season ends later this month.
What are the advantages of the brush over the spring arrow retainer?

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 9, 2020

SavedWretch said:
I have a Patriot that I might be interested in getting a trigger job done after our season ends later this month.
What are the advantages of the brush over the spring arrow retainer?

No noise or vibration and no service need. Ever!

Reach out when you have time. I'd be happy to help out.

SavedWretch

· #8 · Jan 9, 2020

I gotcha. Are the spring retainers prone to breakage? As far as the trigger goes, I don't so much mind the weight of pull but all that creeeeep is just way too much. I'm learning to deal with it but I still don't like it.

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 9, 2020

SavedWretch said:
I gotcha. Are the spring retainers prone to breakage? As far as the trigger goes, I don't so much mind the weight of pull but all that creeeeep is just way too much. I'm learning to deal with it but I still don't like it.

No, not at all but they do bend and the soft coating on them wears.

Exactly, the length of pull is the hardest to adjust to. As you read here, than can be reduce from 5/8" to right at 1/8". Much, much better and that trigger would be in the same class as many of the most expensive xbows have. It will make the Patriot a hard xbow to beat for the dollar.

SavedWretch

· #10 · Jan 9, 2020

If I can get that trigger fixed and upgrade the scope I think I'll be more than happy with the Patriot. I just bought it last week on clearance at WM for $249.

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TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 9, 2020

SavedWretch said:
If I can get that trigger fixed and upgrade the scope I think I'll be more than happy with the Patriot. I just bought it last week on clearance at WM for $249.

Great buy!

Have you looked at the Ravin take-off scope on Wycern Crestions web site? That’s a nice buy.

SavedWretch

· #12 · Jan 9, 2020

Yes, I've had my eye on one of those Ravin's. I started off with the scope that came with the package...It was OK but not what I wanted. Found a KI Lumix on clearance at WM for $60...It's an upgrade, I guess, with it's speed ring and illumination but the paralax is severe on the Lumix, so I feel like it was a waste of $. Tell me more about the Ravin take-offs. It looks like a lot of scope for the money.

Blucky

· #13 · Jan 9, 2020

TX_RDXguy said:
I'm sure we will see what CenterPoint has in store for 2020 as ATA rolls out. Rumor is that not much will change in their lineup until mid-year but we will know for sure in just a few days.

The Sniper trigger work started all this several years ago and since it's added the next version of the trigger in the Spectre, Dagger, Amped (Patriot & Heat) and the CP400. All of the triggers in these bows can be notable improved and the finger style arrow retainer can be updated to a modern brush style as well.

The Amped for example has a 5/8" pull length and it takes about 5 lbs to break the trigger. That can be fixed to have a pull length of 1/8" and break pressure lowered to 3 lbs.

View attachment 162914

Trigger work for any of the new CenterPoint bows (Sniper being the exception) has to be done in house. A DIY kit is not available.

Trigger work is $115 (return shipping included).
Brush work adds $75

I'm a tech guy by day and do this for fun and it helps to pay for expensive arrows .

Reach out if I can help.

Is there a preferred placement of the brush? I bought a tenpoint brush but it looks like it puts alot of pressure on the arrow. It smashes the bristles quite a bit.Might have to trim plastic or mill bottom of rail to get the right height.

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 10, 2020

Blucky said:
Is there a preferred placement of the brush? I bought a tenpoint brush but it looks like it puts alot of pressure on the arrow. It smashes the bristles quite a bit.Might have to trim plastic or mill bottom of rail to get the right height.

There is yes and it very well may need to be shortened. All of the CenterPoint bows built by ManKung need the brush height shortened. And it does press on the shaft pretty significantly.

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From the string/nock to the front of the brush should be about 3.25". That can vary +-.25". The bottom of the bristles should be 3/16 to 1/4" off the flight rail.

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bowmanmt

· #15 · Jan 10, 2020

TX_RDXguy said:
I'm sure we will see what CenterPoint has in store for 2020 as ATA rolls out. Rumor is that not much will change in their lineup until mid-year but we will know for sure in just a few days.

The Sniper trigger work started all this several years ago and since it's added the next version of the trigger in the Spectre, Dagger, Amped (Patriot & Heat) and the CP400. All of the triggers in these bows can be notable improved and the finger style arrow retainer can be updated to a modern brush style as well.

The Amped for example has a 5/8" pull length and it takes about 5 lbs to break the trigger. That can be fixed to have a pull length of 1/8" and break pressure lowered to 3 lbs.

View attachment 162914

Trigger work for any of the new CenterPoint bows (Sniper being the exception) has to be done in house. A DIY kit is not available.

Trigger work is $115 (return shipping included).
Brush work adds $75

I'm a tech guy by day and do this for fun and it helps to pay for expensive arrows .

Reach out if I can help.

Rich just did my buddy's Amp. Brush and Trigger job. Phenomenal

Blucky

· #16 · Jan 10, 2020

I am working on an amped. Shoots good already, just doing some upgrades. The retention spring was squealing when loading the arrow. Thanks for the info Rich.

Chuck Strong

· #17 · Jan 13, 2020

TX_RDXguy said:
No, not at all but they do bend and the soft coating on them wears.

Exactly, the length of pull is the hardest to adjust to. As you read here, than can be reduce from 5/8" to right at 1/8". Much, much better and that trigger would be in the same class as many of the most expensive xbows have. It will make the Patriot a hard xbow to beat for the dollar.

Is there any fix for the terrible trigger on the Tormentor whisper? I love the bow but hate the trigger.

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TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 13, 2020

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Chuck Strong said:
Is there any fix for the terrible trigger on the Tormentor whisper? I love the bow but hate the trigger.

There is Chuck but it's not a easy to do thing. The trigger box has to come out, one part modified (shortened) and a spring shortened.

The "B" section of the trigger box is .130 out of the box. It's odd shaped and the contact surface is long.

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The back-pressure spring can be lightened.

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Chuck Strong

· #19 · Jan 13, 2020

TX_RDXguy said:
There is Chuck but it's not a easy to do thing. The trigger box has to come out, one part modified (shortened) and a spring shortened.

The "B" section of the trigger box is .130 out of the box. It's odd shaped and the contact surface is long.
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The back-pressure spring can be lightened.
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I was a machinist for 10 years and think I can handle the job. I know I can't live with the ridiculous trigger that came with the bow. If I dont attempt to fix this trigger I'll get rid of the bow. It's that bad. Thank you very much for the information to fix this problem.

TX_RDXguy

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 13, 2020

Chuck Strong said:
I was a machinist for 10 years and think I can handle the job. I know I can't live with the ridiculous trigger that came with the bow. If I dont attempt to fix this trigger I'll get rid of the bow. It's that bad. Thank you very much for the information to fix this problem.

Then you have the tools and skill Chuck.

I removed one full coil on that spring and it dropped pressure. You may need to experiment with that if you prefer it lighter. Just be conservative on taking coils off that spring. Good luck!

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