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Non TD Excaliber Question?? Please Advise

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Guys,

I've been looking at the Excaliber's, and I particularly like the look of the Micro's, the Axe's and/or the 335 Raids. I do plan to travel with the Crossbow to hunt with a few times a year. It seems like just looking at them that even the non Takedown versions (for example an Axe), would be very easy to takedown with a single screw and therefore very easy to travel with. So while the Takedown versions definitely seem slightly more convenient to takedown, I would think it's nearly as easy to travel with a non-Takedown bow. Am I missing anything about the non Takedown that would be an issue? Also, couldn't you still use the Excaliber takedown soft case to carry the non takedown version after it was taken apart?

Thanks.
David Whipple.
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People have been taking down their Excals to fit in rifle cases etc. for years and years. Put them back together and shoot away with the same POI.
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Exactly what I figured, just wanted to confirm. Thank you!
I bought a plastic knurled nut at Lowe's for under $3 and now have a TD Micro355 and BD400. Return to zero perfectly. After playing with it last summer I don't see much advantage over the single Allen screw, especially if you only need it for occasional travel so it's now in my junk drawer. I had the idea that it would be nice to take the bows apart to carry in my pack on long hikes in or drags out but it wasn't practical, especially when my Badlands Pack has a rifle/bow carrier.

Personally, I would avoid the 'real' TD models just because the extra mechanism is another potential fail point but that's the Failure Analysis Engineer in me...
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Thank you, thats really good info..
I bought a plastic knurled nut at Lowe's for under $3 and now have a TD Micro355 and BD400. Return to zero perfectly. After playing with it last summer I don't see much advantage over the single Allen screw, especially if you only need it for occasional travel so it's now in my junk drawer. I had the idea that it would be nice to take the bows apart to carry in my pack on long hikes in or drags out but it wasn't practical, especially when my Badlands Pack has a rifle/bow carrier.

Personally, I would avoid the 'real' TD models just because the extra mechanism is another potential fail point but that's the Failure Analysis Engineer in me...
I tried a single thumb screw in my Micro, one with a big head even, and I could get the riser to rotate ever so slightly when pulling back on one limb end and then the other, so I decided against it. Did you try that with yours? Maybe that wouldn't affect POI anyway since it's pulling back with 250+ lbs to the same anchor point when cocked? Compared to a person holding a compound bow riser, the holding is still far more consistent.
I just carry an Allen key to take my micro down. Easy pezzee!
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I tried a single thumb screw in my Micro, one with a big head even, and I could get the riser to rotate ever so slightly when pulling back on one limb end and then the other, so I decided against it. Did you try that with yours? Maybe that wouldn't affect POI anyway since it's pulling back with 250+ lbs to the same anchor point when cocked? Compared to a person holding a compound bow riser, the holding is still far more consistent.
Mine are very tight when I try that. There is a 'locating bump' that matches with a hole near the bolt that locks out the movement. I can see that if the bump was worn it would allow the movement you describe but it isn't a problem with my 2 crossbows.
Regardless, I am not using the thumb screw because it protrudes enough to make resting the bow on the rail less secure and doesn't save much over the Allen bolt.
The whole 'quick release takedown' seems like a solution in search of a problem. ...
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Mine are very tight when I try that. There is a 'locating bump' that matches with a hole near the bolt that locks out the movement. I can see that if the bump was worn it would allow the movement you describe but it isn't a problem with my 2 crossbows.
Regardless, I am not using the thumb screw because it protrudes enough to make resting the bow on the rail less secure and doesn't save much over the Allen bolt.
The whole 'quick release takedown' seems like a solution in search of a problem. ...
Mine also has the bump on the riser and hole in the frame, but even so there is still enough slop to feel the movement. Thankfully the micro's are so compact already that I don't think I'll need to take it down for transport, like I do the Vortex.

I really hope Excal moves on from having TD be a big part of their new models, and focuses on features that the average hunter appreciates more.
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Guys,

I've been looking at the Excaliber's, and I particularly like the look of the Micro's, the Axe's and/or the 335 Raids. I do plan to travel with the Crossbow to hunt with a few times a year. It seems like just looking at them that even the non Takedown versions (for example an Axe), would be very easy to takedown with a single screw and therefore very easy to travel with. So while the Takedown versions definitely seem slightly more convenient to takedown, I would think it's nearly as easy to travel with a non-Takedown bow. Am I missing anything about the non Takedown that would be an issue? Also, couldn't you still use the Excaliber takedown soft case to carry the non takedown version after it was taken apart?

Thanks.
David Whipple.
The axe takes down with one screw verry easy!! I own one❤❤
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I bought a plastic knurled nut at Lowe's for under $3 and now have a TD Micro355 and BD400. Return to zero perfectly. After playing with it last summer I don't see much advantage over the single Allen screw, especially if you only need it for occasional travel so it's now in my junk drawer. I had the idea that it would be nice to take the bows apart to carry in my pack on long hikes in or drags out but it wasn't practical, especially when my Badlands Pack has a rifle/bow carrier.

Personally, I would avoid the 'real' TD models just because the extra mechanism is another potential fail point but that's the Failure Analysis Engineer in me...
smong2000, what size bolt do the risers take?

Thanks!
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