Mike,
This boy Terry Williams, Stinger 171 and one more on here, not important enough for me to remember right now, are members of the Michigan Bow Hunters Association. Terry is supposed to be a ranking officer within that organization. Who knows, and who here cares, really. They are anti Crossbow. Anti Hunters wanting crossbows to go away and be denied within the archery season in Michigan. They are trying to have a voice in the politics of Michigan, by claiming the membership represents all bow shooters with crossbows not being archery equipment. Hence no representation from the "all bow hunters" club. Anti Hunters. Panty hunters, whatever. The battle is ongoing in the state of Michigan right now, so they're shopping for harmful information to help their cause. Also here to do a little intimidation. Play games with you and the other members. Like I said before, like three teen age boys going to toilet paper a home for their personal pleasure. Same mentality.
Look here. I can tell you that this boy and his cronies are not here to learn or listen. They are here for one thing, and one thing only. They've already done the debates with proper advocates, and language. That is still not why they are here. They are here to start trouble for the most vunerable of this membership and to learn who's who for other sites. They are looking for the weaknesses of the crossbow and it's shooters, to be able and add any new harmful information collected to their states fight.
I you think for one minute, talking to him about your views, and providing the proper information, you're wasting your time because these boys have already been there, and done that. They don't want to listen and debate because it's a debate they cannot win. They know that. You aren't going to change their minds on how they view crossbow, and those of us who shoot them and accept them. Like Terry stated, they were here to have some fun. To anger the members here and be able and laugh at you, and to try and collect any harmful information to use against you. DO NOT make them comfortable with visiting here. The more comfortable yo make it for them, the longer they will be hanging around. Period. They are here only for the purpose of doing no good to you or your fellow crossbow enthusiast. These are not at all nice and normal thinking boys. Make no mistake.
I realize several of the members on here don't have the experience with these Bow Hunting Association members when you think a civil debate will do anything for you or the other members, or your cause. If they are merely a member of a bow hunting association, you may have a chance at civility, but if they are an officer, throw them to the curb as fast as you can! They have been doing this for a long, long time already. They are here "for fun" just to mess with you. That is all. Of course, a few laughs a your expense at the archery range and other sites.
So, clean house anyway you can. We don't need them here and we don't want them here, starting trouble. If you think they are civil and you want to debate them, just go to another site and try to have a civil debate and see for yourself what happens. You don't have to believe anything I tell you. Go find out first hand. See if you don't get upset.
I know I do and say things not like my normal self,and I do stoop, but if it gets them gone faster, I'll play. All it takes is some provokation and they'll have to go before they can say what they're thinking. If they say it, then we all win when they get banned. SO far, Terry has done well holding his temper. I'm laughing at him now, not him and his cronies laughing at me. I'd much rather anger him, than he anger me or anyone of the members here. Your not dealing with normal people who have common sense. Your dealing with very immature boys who like to "have fun" by messing with others. Not a normal mentality like some members here assume. They will ignore the facts. They already know the facts. Get the rope!