Pretty sure all their scopes are 3x.
Questions on optics
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The first thing I do when I buy a bow package is sell the crappy chinese optic that comes with it and mount a real scope made by Leupold!!
This reply is being NOTED as an "over reaction".The first thing I do when I buy a bow package is sell the crappy chinese optic that comes with it and mount a real scope made by Leupold!!
Love you VN, you're the man and I know you can handle me picking on ya. This is a newby and he's a fellow Texan so we need to keep him open minded on his first purchase.
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Not all entry level scopes are horrible and yes Leupold makes fine scopes but so do 10 other optic companies. Today there are more choices and honestly, not all Chinese made optics are bad.
The right optic choice has a great deal to do with how you will use it. If you hunt in tight spots or plan to run and gun the Red Dot may be a reasonable choice. Many crossbow hunters are ambush style hunters and the BDC multi-reticle compact crossbow scope works well for them. Hawke makes several popular, commonly used crossbow scopes but you will find other that are good as well. The EVO Marksman scope from TenPoint is considered by many to be the "best of breed" today.
I'm a fan of great optics like Zeiss, Leupold, Nikon, Vortex and Burris and most of those manufacturers don't make a crossbow specific optic nor do we use a crossbow optic like a rifle optic. Can they work, sure they can but I think you will find very suitable crossbow specific BDC scope, possibly a Red Dot too. Look through the Excalibur and Optic forums and you will probably find your answer.
If you are "techie" take a look at the smart scopes or electro-optics from ATN and SIG Sauer. That's a new optic trend that I suspect will grow.
ATA is just a few days away so watch for new and updated optic choices coming out of that show.
Rich, kudos for spending the amount of time you do on here actually helping people. I'm nowhere near as "techie" as you are, nor will I ever be, but I do read what you post, and appreciate the time you put in evaluating products, and giving your unbiased (pretty rare on here) assessment.This reply is being NOTED as an "over reaction".
Love you VN, you're the man and I know you can handle me picking on ya. This is a newby and he's a fellow Texan so we need to keep him open minded on his first purchase.
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Not all entry level scopes are horrible and yes Leupold makes fine scopes but so do 10 other optic companies. Today there are more choices and honestly, not all Chinese made optics are bad.
The right optic choice has a great deal to do with how you will use it. If you hunt in tight spots or plan to run and gun the Red Dot may be a reasonable choice. Many crossbow hunters are ambush style hunters and the BDC multi-reticle compact crossbow scope works well for them. Hawke makes several popular, commonly used crossbow scopes but you will find other that are good as well. The EVO Marksman scope from TenPoint is considered by many to be the "best of breed" today.
I'm a fan of great optics like Zeiss, Leupold, Nikon, Vortex and Burris and most of those manufacturers don't make a crossbow specific optic nor do we use a crossbow optic like a rifle optic. Can they work, sure they can but I think you will find very suitable crossbow specific BDC scope, possibly a Red Dot too. Look through the Excalibur and Optic forums and you will probably find your answer.
If you are "techie" take a look at the smart scopes or electro-optics from ATN and SIG Sauer. That's a new optic trend that I suspect will grow.
ATA is just a few days away so watch for new and updated optic choices coming out of that show.
Over reaction? Hardly!!! LolThis reply is being NOTED as an "over reaction".
Love you VN, you're the man and I know you can handle me picking on ya. This is a newby and he's a fellow Texan so we need to keep him open minded on his first purchase.
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Not all entry level scopes are horrible and yes Leupold makes fine scopes but so do 10 other optic companies. Today there are more choices and honestly, not all Chinese made optics are bad.
The right optic choice has a great deal to do with how you will use it. If you hunt in tight spots or plan to run and gun the Red Dot may be a reasonable choice. Many crossbow hunters are ambush style hunters and the BDC multi-reticle compact crossbow scope works well for them. Hawke makes several popular, commonly used crossbow scopes but you will find other that are good as well. The EVO Marksman scope from TenPoint is considered by many to be the "best of breed" today.
I'm a fan of great optics like Zeiss, Leupold, Nikon, Vortex and Burris and most of those manufacturers don't make a crossbow specific optic nor do we use a crossbow optic like a rifle optic. Can they work, sure they can but I think you will find very suitable crossbow specific BDC scope, possibly a Red Dot too. Look through the Excalibur and Optic forums and you will probably find your answer.
If you are "techie" take a look at the smart scopes or electro-optics from ATN and SIG Sauer. That's a new optic trend that I suspect will grow.
ATA is just a few days away so watch for new and updated optic choices coming out of that show.
The other day I helped a friend sight in his bow with the dropzone. With my aging eyes there is no way I could use his scope for hunting. I struggled to get the reticle in focus for a 20 yard shot. I need good clear glass. Now if you have younger eyes I would think most crossbow scopes would do the job.
I'm with you Jeff, I've never used a factory scope. BUT Jeff, we and many others are scope snobs. We all have different expectations and experiences. What you say about the scopes can be said about the majority of rifle scopes. Most to us are garbage. But people buy them, use them and kill with them. Sometimes the factory scope users can't afford better, sometimes they haven't experienced a really good scope. I can use the factory scopes but I have a difficult time not getting nitpicky when looking through one and I start looking for reasons to dump it. But that's me right punk!Over reaction? Hardly!!! Lol
The other day I helped a friend sight in his bow with the dropzone. With my aging eyes there is no way I could use his scope for hunting. I struggled to get the reticle in focus for a 20 yard shot. I need good clear glass. Now if you have younger eyes I would think most crossbow scopes would do the job.
I'm with you Jeff, I've never used a factory scope. BUT Jeff, we and many others are scope snobs. We all have different expectations and experiences. What you say about the scopes can be said about the majority of rifle scopes. Most to us are garbage. But people buy them, use them and kill with them. Sometimes the factory scope users can't afford better, sometimes they haven't experienced a really good scope. I can use the factory scopes but I have a difficult time not getting nitpicky when looking through one and I start looking for reasons to dump it. But that's me right punk!
Lol yep I'm spoiled in the optics dept! And I'm getting old and need all the help I can get!!!
I ended up going with one that came with a Twilight DLX scope and a C2 crank. I've attached a thumbnail of the specs from Excalibur's website:
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Don't know if it's allowed to list ebay prices here, so I'll leave it to you to go look if you're interested. The actual ad is here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Excalibur-...ACK-DLX-SCOPE-C2-COCKING-AID-779/254307469075
Should have it here next week, just in time for me to go out of town for work for a week, lol.
Thanks to robertyb for posting a link to American Archery's ebay ad in this post, which led me to this crossbow: https://www.crossbownation.com/community/threads/which-one.102488/#post-1256340
Don't know if it's allowed to list ebay prices here, so I'll leave it to you to go look if you're interested. The actual ad is here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Excalibur-...ACK-DLX-SCOPE-C2-COCKING-AID-779/254307469075
Should have it here next week, just in time for me to go out of town for work for a week, lol.
Thanks to robertyb for posting a link to American Archery's ebay ad in this post, which led me to this crossbow: https://www.crossbownation.com/community/threads/which-one.102488/#post-1256340
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