Ravin R29 weak link?

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jwrdn

Discussion Starter · Dec 4, 2019

Hello all! My first post and a new R29 owner.
Just purchased my first CB and chose the r29. Today was the first time i really got to shoot it after sighting in and shooting at some different distances it seems as the factory scope is the weak link of the package. The paralax is horrible on the scope at every distance I shot out to 80yds. Overall the bow is impressive but I struggled gaining any confidence in my sight picture. I've shot quite a bit of scoped rifle and have for 40 years but this thing just seems very subpar for the ravin package.
Is there a good option out there for an upgrade or do I need to just get used to it?

Thanks!

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Wapster

· #2 · Dec 4, 2019

There are better scopes out there than the Ravin. It still boils down to personal preference. Did you adjust the eye piece for focus any?

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jwrdn

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 4, 2019

Wapster said:
There are better scopes out there than the Ravin. It still boils down to personal preference. Did you adjust the eye piece for focus any?

I did get the scope focused, but the parallax is pretty horrible. Just noticed I posted this in the wrong forum....FNG! LOL Sorry guys.

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TX_RDXguy

· #4 · Dec 4, 2019

jwrdn said:
Hello all! My first post and a new R29 owner.
Just purchased my first CB and chose the r29. Today was the first time i really got to shoot it after sighting in and shooting at some different distances it seems as the factory scope is the weak link of the package. The paralax is horrible on the scope at every distance I shot out to 80yds. Overall the bow is impressive but I struggled gaining any confidence in my sight picture. I've shot quite a bit of scoped rifle and have for 40 years but this thing just seems very subpar for the ravin package.
Is there a good option out there for an upgrade or do I need to just get used to it?

Thanks!

Welcome to CBN and congrats on the R29! That's a pretty good stepping off point as a first xbow.

First, make sure your scope doesn't have an issue. The Ravin scopes I've used are all pretty good by xbow standards. I have not had an issue with parallax in my use. Yes, there are other good scope options. Here are two: The TenPoint EVO-X Marksman is setting the bar for clarity and quality so you should consider it. I've been using the Sierra3 electro-optic from Sig Sauer for about 3 months and it is a surprisingly good optic for the price.

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It also gives you ballistic setup capability and auto ranging when used with a complimenting BDX application and a Sig Kilo rangefinder. You don't sacrifice magnification for speed compensation so longer range image enlargement is an option and the lit reticle isn't visible on this scope as it is on almost all xbow scopes with illuminated reticles.

The ATA show in January is often the debut of new products so you might hold on any changes until we see whats new for xbow optics.

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jwrdn

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 4, 2019

TX_RDXguy said:
Welcome to CBN and congrats on the R29! That's a pretty good stepping off point as a first xbow.

First, make sure your scope doesn't have an issue. The Ravin scopes I've used are all pretty good by xbow standards. I have not had an issue with parallax in my use. Yes, there are other good scope options. Here are two: The TenPoint EVO-X Marksman is setting the bar for clarity and quality so you should consider it. I've been using the Sierra3 electro-optic from Sig Sauer for about 3 months and it is a surprisingly good optic for the price.

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It also gives you ballistic setup capability and auto ranging when used with a complimenting BDX application and a Sig Kilo rangefinder. You don't sacrifice magnification for speed compensation so longer range image enlargement is an option and the lit reticle isn't visible on this scope as it is on almost all xbow scopes with illuminated reticles.

The ATA show in January is often the debut of new products so you might hold on any changes until we see whats new for xbow optics.

Thanks for the reply TX!
I have been looking into the sig BDX line. I like the ranging capability but haven't found enough info to understand the "ballistic setup capability" you referenced. Is this programmable ballistics that will generate multiple aim points in the scope?

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Jack Pine

· #6 · Dec 4, 2019

If the scope is bad, contact Ravin for a replacement; probably got a bad one, it happens.

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TX_RDXguy

· #7 · Dec 4, 2019

jwrdn said:
Thanks for the reply TX!
I have been looking into the sig BDX line. I like the ranging capability but haven't found enough info to understand the "ballistic setup capability" you referenced. Is this programmable ballistics that will generate multiple aim points in the scope?

It is, yes. It's basic info. that you load into the BDX application that carries over to the scope. You build a Profile for your xbow and provide: zero range in yards, arrow speed in fps, arrow weight in gn and the height of the scope off the rail in inches. That's all this app. needs to have.

From that point you have two options. One is for use without a BDX rangefinder where you build a Ballistic Reticle reticle config. and setup your holdover points however you care to. It is similar to how most xbow scope are setup with BDC hold over reticles. I use the one below for 20 yards to 50 yards and filled out all nine options so I could have holdover reticle points out to 90 yards if I cared to turn them on.

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And it ends up looking something like this.

The second config, is when you use the BDX rangefinder. The optic will now only have the zero crosshair and one lit reticle for whatever range you selected with the rangefinder. It will look like this.

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jwrdn

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 4, 2019

TX,
That is exact the info I was looking for. Thank you, I think you just cost me some more $. LOL
Do you notice any parallax shift with it being set at 100yds?

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TX_RDXguy

· #9 · Dec 4, 2019

jwrdn said:
TX,
That is exact the info I was looking for. Thank you, I think you just cost me some more $. LOL
Do you notice any parallax shift with it being set at 100yds?

Good deal.

Parallax.... Well, that may be the crowning value for you. With the way the scope is designed the main reticle (crosshair) doesn't float or move with slight head movement. I'd suggest strongly that you drive up to the Hazelwood Cabelas and put your hands on the scope and check it out. You may only find the 3.5-10 or bigger scopes to look at but you can see the base reticle setup and get a general idea of clarity. I have the 3.5-10X42 which works fine but I think I'd be happy with the 2.5-8X40 as well.

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Nenokid

· #10 · Dec 7, 2019

Hi TX,
have you tried to see what is the maximum distance you can shoot with this scope without using hha optimizer? thanks

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TX_RDXguy

· #11 · Dec 7, 2019

I’ve shot it to 60 plus and I’ll guess it’s going to be 80 or 90. I’ll check and let you know.

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Nenokid

· #12 · Dec 8, 2019

[QUOTE = "TX_RDXguy, post: 1255286, membro: 14517"] Ho sparato a 60 plus e immagino che sarà 80 o 90. Controllerò e ti farò sapere. [/ QUOTE]
Many thanks

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TX_RDXguy

· #13 · Dec 8, 2019

Nenokid said:
Hi TX,
have you tried to see what is the maximum distance you can shoot with this scope without using hha optimizer? thanks

Just to level set. My Sierra3 is on a Nitro X so there's no adjustable plate or HHA Optimizer.

With the Ballistic profile built for it I was able to range out to 127 yards and ran out of property to test it further. I didn't test it by shooting but I did gradually check yardages and the retcile appropriately moved. At 200 yards it defaults back to the Zero so somewhere between 127 yards and 200 yards it will stop working.

Apply common sense and the slower the xbow is the shorter the maximum rage will be.

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Nenokid

· #14 · Dec 10, 2019

TX_RDXguy said:
Just to level set. My Sierra3 is on a Nitro X so there's no adjustable plate or HHA Optimizer.

With the Ballistic profile built for it I was able to range out to 127 yards and ran out of property to test it further. I didn't test it by shooting but I did gradually check yardages and the retcile appropriately moved. At 200 yards it defaults back to the Zero so somewhere between 127 yards and 200 yards it will stop working.

Apply common sense and the slower the xbow is the shorter the maximum rage will be.

Very interesting distances, thank you very much

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