I have the same burning question ND. I love the triggers on Barnetts and it's hard to settle on a subpar trigger, but i do love the new Tenpoints especially the new viper, i would love to buy one but would have to be hands on first, i have been dissapointed in the past with there claims of a better trigger.
TenPoint’s 2020 Trigger??
Looking for some un-biased reports on how the new Trigger on TenPoint’s high end $2600-$3k crossbows are. I got stuck 2 years ago after ordering a new Nitro X and the trigger was so bad I sold the crossbow before they came out with the T-5 Trigger. My son is looking at new crossbows and I’d like to know if there are people who own a newer Scorpyd that may have shot the New TP Vapor at the show to get an actual read on Trigger Comparison’s. I feel my Nemesis has the best trigger on the planet and all I’m hearing is TP has a new 2 stage that is supposed to be nice. Well,... Just how nice is the question and I’m just trying to find out how good others that went to the ATA Show and shot the Vapor really feel how good it is.
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Fact is the TenPoint Triggers in the past have fallen very short. I hope there 2020 Tigger meets or even exceeds expectations. Just how good are they??
I’m probably the only guy in the world that hasn’t shot a ten point...(sorry Pin).....
I’m looking for a couple of things when I look at a bow....
Balance weight and decent speed.
The ability to work on without a press....
I’ve owned wide limbed,excals and micros,a Horton reverse draw ,a middleton 400 and lately a 175 Orion Extreme and a Grim Reaper special edition.
The one thing that never bothered me is the trigger.
When I pull down on a deer,everything goes on auto pilot. The bow going off is sort of a surprise.
All I’m concentrating on is that cross hair or pin on the animal.....
Now if I needed a crank,ten point would be a viable option....
I’m looking for a couple of things when I look at a bow....
Balance weight and decent speed.
The ability to work on without a press....
I’ve owned wide limbed,excals and micros,a Horton reverse draw ,a middleton 400 and lately a 175 Orion Extreme and a Grim Reaper special edition.
The one thing that never bothered me is the trigger.
When I pull down on a deer,everything goes on auto pilot. The bow going off is sort of a surprise.
All I’m concentrating on is that cross hair or pin on the animal.....
Now if I needed a crank,ten point would be a viable option....
The true test if you like it is shoot one and see. I really liked it myself. First stage is just enough weight so it doesn’t flop loose. Maybe 1lb. Second stage advertised 3.5lb. Clean break no creep. IMO great trigger.
I’m not sure their new trigger can compete with the Ravin trigger? I’d love to try one of the new TenPoints but I just can’t hardly give up the lightweight of my R15 and it’s phenomenal trigger. All jokes aside, I have high dollar triggers in several custom rifles and I feel the Ravin trigger trumps them all. They got it right! If this new TenPoint trigger is that good I’d sure like to get my hands on one but I’m not going to hold my breath.
I tested a few of the new TenPoint crossbows today. The ACUslide is very cool and trigger change in the upper end bows is significant. These are 3 brand new bows with only a few test shots out of them and I'm testing with a Wheeler spring pressure gauge. Each bow was tested 5 times.
Pins notes are pretty good. There is some take-up in the S1 two stage trigger, then a solid pull and a crisp break.
The Vapor and Viper pressure is not bad at all but I didn't see 3.5 lbs., possibly due to the bows being new and the gauge I have is fair but not precision.
Creep is almost non-existent which is a very nice improvement. The S1 is a clear step above the T5s I have in the Nitros.
Vapor RS470
Break Pressure - 3.9-4.2 lbs
Creep - 1/16"
Viper S400
Break Pressure - 4-4.3 lbs
Creep - 1/16"
M-370
Break Pressure - 4.3-4.5 lbs
Creep - 3/8"
The ACUslide system is no hype. Simple and easy. The Vapor took 19 cranks, the Viper took 14. Stop and start has no back pressure and de-cocking works well. The trigger can stay attached to the string after de-cocking or you can release it fairly simply with the probe built into the crank handle.
I'm a Nitro guy so the RDX style Vapor was familiar but lighter. Something I was concerned about was the stock and how it shouldered with the integrated ACUslide system. I was surprised and I do like the feel and cheek weld.
Two weeks ago I said I didn't need a new bow this year but the ACUslide made a good impression today and I know I'd appreciate the S1 trigger.
The M-370 weighed in at a very light 6.8 lbs with scope.
No real news here other than it looks like these TenPoint and Wicked Ridge bows will be good sellers and make lots of folks happy.
Pins notes are pretty good. There is some take-up in the S1 two stage trigger, then a solid pull and a crisp break.
The Vapor and Viper pressure is not bad at all but I didn't see 3.5 lbs., possibly due to the bows being new and the gauge I have is fair but not precision.
Creep is almost non-existent which is a very nice improvement. The S1 is a clear step above the T5s I have in the Nitros.
Vapor RS470
Break Pressure - 3.9-4.2 lbs
Creep - 1/16"
Viper S400
Break Pressure - 4-4.3 lbs
Creep - 1/16"
M-370
Break Pressure - 4.3-4.5 lbs
Creep - 3/8"
The ACUslide system is no hype. Simple and easy. The Vapor took 19 cranks, the Viper took 14. Stop and start has no back pressure and de-cocking works well. The trigger can stay attached to the string after de-cocking or you can release it fairly simply with the probe built into the crank handle.
I'm a Nitro guy so the RDX style Vapor was familiar but lighter. Something I was concerned about was the stock and how it shouldered with the integrated ACUslide system. I was surprised and I do like the feel and cheek weld.
Two weeks ago I said I didn't need a new bow this year but the ACUslide made a good impression today and I know I'd appreciate the S1 trigger.
The M-370 weighed in at a very light 6.8 lbs with scope.
No real news here other than it looks like these TenPoint and Wicked Ridge bows will be good sellers and make lots of folks happy.
TX,
The Vapor and Viper bows you had the opportunity to test don’t have final production parts in them, so those weights will be slightly lighter when the bows come out. The bows you handled are from the ATA show.
It is also a very safe trigger.
The Vapor and Viper bows you had the opportunity to test don’t have final production parts in them, so those weights will be slightly lighter when the bows come out. The bows you handled are from the ATA show.
It is also a very safe trigger.
Once the new triggers get out I think they will be wildly popular. Its a whole new direction for Ten Point.
Who’s going to be first to get one in their hands!
TX,
The Vapor and Viper bows you had the opportunity to test don’t have final production parts in them, so those weights will be slightly lighter when the bows come out. The bows you handled are from the ATA show.
It is also a very safe trigger.
How much lighter ? And why the change?
Exactly why not to order a new Vapor model until the actual production models are out. At that time I could personally shoot one at a dealer, take my trigger gauge and actually do my own trigger testing. A 3lb max trigger with no creep is my criteria and both my Nemesis and R15 meet those specs easily.
Bill, nope, I've never shot one either...I’m probably the only guy in the world that hasn’t shot a ten point...(sorry Pin).....
I’m looking for a couple of things when I look at a bow....
Balance weight and decent speed.
The ability to work on without a press....
I’ve owned wide limbed,excals and micros,a Horton reverse draw ,a middleton 400 and lately a 175 Orion Extreme and a Grim Reaper special edition.
The one thing that never bothered me is the trigger.
When I pull down on a deer,everything goes on auto pilot. The bow going off is sort of a surprise.
All I’m concentrating on is that cross hair or pin on the animal.....
Now if I needed a crank,ten point would be a viable option....
Me either.Bill, nope, I've never shot one either...
You're over-reading the reply from TenPoint gentlemen. There won't be any new TenPoint xbows delivered or sold without "production" quality products in them. I happen to be lucky enough to have some demo bows from the ATA show to handle and test and didn't realize they were "pre-production" units. My mistake there and I apologize.Exactly why not to order a new Vapor model until the actual production models are out. At that time I could personally shoot one at a dealer, take my trigger gauge and actually do my own trigger testing. A 3lb max trigger with no creep is my criteria and both my Nemesis and R15 meet those specs easily.
The S1 trigger bows (Vapor, Vengent, Viper) will have the S1 trigger that has a 3.5 lb. rating. As you can see from my test, the creep is virtually zero and compares with the best triggers that are out today. "No-creep" is a physical impossibility in any of the commercial crossbows produced today and that includes the Scorpyd, Ravin and TriggerTech bows, but their pull can be short (1/16").
They will be about 3.5-4 lbs with no creep or travel, as per TX results. There was no change, just that when those bows were built, we did not have production parts yet.How much lighter ? And why the change?
You will not see a 3lb or under trigger from us. They are not safe in the field per the requirements we set for ourselves. Production bows started to ship last Friday and as TX results show, there is no creep in them.Exactly why not to order a new Vapor model until the actual production models are out. At that time I could personally shoot one at a dealer, take my trigger gauge and actually do my own trigger testing. A 3lb max trigger with no creep is my criteria and both my Nemesis and R15 meet those specs easily.
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