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Well 2020 has revealed some new crossbows to the market. Tenpoint has struck again! A Truly Safe De-Cocking Crossbow. Speeds creeping closer and closer to 500 fps.. Smaller, lighter, faster, safer, all that technology …..But Son Of A Gun,, But at what $ Price $.... When you start seeing prices creep into the $3K range,, YOU Gotta say "WHOOA there Nellie " ! All said the cost of R&D isn't cheap, to put together a once thought of primitive weapon from the yesteryears, is now all but a memory. Todays Crossbows are anything but simple. Built with the best materials available to man. It leaves you to think, How can they top this ? But dont you fret none. The replacements to these mind blowing bows is already in the works, speeds will not only touch 500 fps, but surpass it at some point. HOW is that possible, well it wasn't all that long ago we were awestruck by 400fps bows, Sooooo,,500fps isn't such a stretch now is it! It really is awesome to see what is possible in our Great Sport. Whether you shoot your crossbow for recreation or use it as an awesome tool for the taking of wild game. We are fortunate to live in a time where we have access to the Best of the Best,, and Best is yet to come.
IN closing , all I can do is think back and say.. But at what $ COST $.....Just something to think about folks.. All this technology right at our finger tips..BUT for many of us, that may be as close as we ever get to experience it.
The $ COST $ of technology, just may be to costly in the end.
 

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IN 2010 Tenpoint Turbo XLT ,, 180 LB draw weight. 420 Grain arrow, 315 FPS. By that's time standards, it was considered " lightweight" at 7# 11 oz. …. Taken from HUNTINGNET.com SEPT 17,2010.
 

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What was the average speed of crossbows, let say 10 years ago?
My first crossbow was a 2002 TenPoint Titan. It was rated at 285 fps with an Easton 2219 XX75 arrow. I shot 125gr NAP Thunderheads on those arrows so it was probably even slower. But guess what, I never had a problem killing deer with it. I hunted with that crossbow for 12 years. If I remember right I think I paid less than $500 for it...
 

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Cost always comes down. The latest and greatest of today will be average tomorrow. The first flat screen TV I bought was 32" and $2500 dollars. I just got a 32" smart TV with Wi-Fi Bluetooth, all the TV apps I know nothing about, Netflix, Hulu etc for my daughter's bed room. It cost $99 bucks. When ten point came out with, don't quote me but I think it was the Vapor, I was in aww of the specs which I believe was 370fps. Now you can buy all kinds of affordable bows that shoot that or faster. You want the latest and greatest? You pay up for that, or you wait until it is no longer the latest and greatest. It's the way everything works. Not just crossbows. 10 years from now the centerpoint you can pick up at Wal-Mart will probably shoot better than the 10 PT released at the AtA. Who knows what the top companies will have. Their R&D comes at a cost but always trickles down.
 

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My first crossbow was a 2002 TenPoint Titan. It was rated at 285 fps with an Easton 2219 XX75 arrow. I shot 125gr NAP Thunderheads on those arrows so it was probably even slower. But guess what, I never had a problem killing deer with it. I hunted with that crossbow for 12 years. If I remember right I think I paid less than $500 for it...
So I did a little digging and found one of those old arrows and the paperwork from that Titan.

The arrow point combination weighed 446gr and I paid $319.99 for the crossbow at Cabela's...
 

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Well 2020 has revealed some new crossbows to the market. Tenpoint has struck again! A Truly Safe De-Cocking Crossbow. Speeds creeping closer and closer to 500 fps.. Smaller, lighter, faster, safer, all that technology …..But Son Of A Gun,, But at what $ Price $.... When you start seeing prices creep into the $3K range,, YOU Gotta say "WHOOA there Nellie " ! All said the cost of R&D isn't cheap, to put together a once thought of primitive weapon from the yesteryears, is now all but a memory. Todays Crossbows are anything but simple. Built with the best materials available to man. It leaves you to think, How can they top this ? But dont you fret none. The replacements to these mind blowing bows is already in the works, speeds will not only touch 500 fps, but surpass it at some point. HOW is that possible, well it wasn't all that long ago we were awestruck by 400fps bows, Sooooo,,500fps isn't such a stretch now is it! It really is awesome to see what is possible in our Great Sport. Whether you shoot your crossbow for recreation or use it as an awesome tool for the taking of wild game. We are fortunate to live in a time where we have access to the Best of the Best,, and Best is yet to come.
IN closing , all I can do is think back and say.. But at what $ COST $.....Just something to think about folks.. All this technology right at our finger tips..BUT for many of us, that may be as close as we ever get to experience it.
The $ COST $ of technology, just may be to costly in the end.
The sad part about it is you can buy one hell of a rifle and scope set up for less than $3000 and 10 years from now it will be worth more than you paid for it. :)If taken care of. Try that with a $3000 crossbow that is 6 months old.:( The other thing the rifle will shoot correctly it wont have broken serving, broken accudraw, lousy scope, bad strings and cables, crappy trigger, broken limbs,etc. We are being taken advantage of but we must like it. If everyone didn't buy a new 3000 dollar crossbow for a year or two they would have to listen. It wouldn't be as bad if you could shoot as is for a year or two but the problems starts the day you fire the first arrow.
 

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If speeds and accuracy continue to improve, the cost may come in the form of xbows not being legal during archery seasons. We may be competing with firearms seasons. Something to think about......
 

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The opposite seems to be the reason for the Xbow revolution. More and More states are opening Xbows during the archery season, not limiting them. I live in Ohio, the original Xbow friendly state.
 

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The opposite seems to be the reason for the Xbow revolution. More and More states are opening Xbows during the archery season, not limiting them. I live in Ohio, the original Xbow friendly state.

That’s in the NOW, I’m thinking about the future. Once xbows were limited to disabled or partially disabled, then more and more folks clamored for the inclusion in archery seasons for folks with no disabilities. The inclusion didn’t happen overnight, and neither will the exclusion, if at all, but it’s on lots of vertical bow user’s radar, you can be sure.

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Me, I really don’t care one way or the other, I go with whatever is legal. Rifle, bow, xbow, handgun makes no nevermind to me as long as the state says I’m good.
 

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Well 2020 has revealed some new crossbows to the market. Tenpoint has struck again! A Truly Safe De-Cocking Crossbow. Speeds creeping closer and closer to 500 fps.. Smaller, lighter, faster, safer, all that technology …..But Son Of A Gun,, But at what $ Price $.... When you start seeing prices creep into the $3K range,, YOU Gotta say "WHOOA there Nellie " ! All said the cost of R&D isn't cheap, to put together a once thought of primitive weapon from the yesteryears, is now all but a memory. Todays Crossbows are anything but simple. Built with the best materials available to man. It leaves you to think, How can they top this ? But dont you fret none. The replacements to these mind blowing bows is already in the works, speeds will not only touch 500 fps, but surpass it at some point. HOW is that possible, well it wasn't all that long ago we were awestruck by 400fps bows, Sooooo,,500fps isn't such a stretch now is it! It really is awesome to see what is possible in our Great Sport. Whether you shoot your crossbow for recreation or use it as an awesome tool for the taking of wild game. We are fortunate to live in a time where we have access to the Best of the Best,, and Best is yet to come.
IN closing , all I can do is think back and say.. But at what $ COST $.....Just something to think about folks.. All this technology right at our finger tips..BUT for many of us, that may be as close as we ever get to experience it.
The $ COST $ of technology, just may be to costly in the end.
Your right about R and D costs however if we got to see a real cost breakdown from the manufacturer I think folks would be amazed at how much of the cost is related to insurance, liability, litigation. Years ago when people stuck their finger in the wrong place in any piece of equipment it was their own fault now it's somebody else's fault and they deserve to be paid for their own bad actions.
 

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On a personal level, the cost of technology (even without inflation) is going to (or already has) priced me out of the market for a new crossbow or compound bow.
A new recurve, long bow or horse bow is also out of reach.
Inflation has pretty much kicked me out of getting a new muzzleloader; new or used.
As for a cartridge gun ... not even a .22 rimfire, or an "inexpensive" single shot 12 gauge is with-in reach.
 

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The faster the bows the more problems.Shot my first Tenpiont for 6 years.The new high end stuff doesn’t last
to much power and stored energy.They can only do so much with the materials.I laugh when I see guys running to buy the next best thing they worry more about what $$$$ bow they have then the hunting.
 
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