[xcal_precision]

IDK I"m not reading your list. I make my own mistakes to learn from.
I'm a machinist. My life revolves around precision repeatability and, making sure I enjoy my day with the choices I take in getting there. That was my advice for your thread.
I do have many xbows and, probably more arrows with their own broadhead than most and, that's all I launch.
40yd accuracy really? That's 8moa or 3mrad to me. With the 4-16 ffp's I've let xbow virgins pound 2" dots at 70yds. And that's with a bunch of arrows. I'm not the shoot 2 or 3 arrows guy. I set 4 or 5 blobs out and, shoot a case of numbered arrows. Arojac makes life ez.
Carry on it's amusing.

raven center point support left taste in my mouth last year but I may still buy a R20 over a 505 with what I'm seeing in this micro data set.

 

[crappie-tom]

raven center point support left taste in my mouth last year but I may still buy a R20 over a 505 with what I'm seeing in this micro data set.

Yelpy has had one of them for quite a few years now. He sent me a pic of the buck his nephew just shot with it. Being he still has it it's gotta be keeping him satisfied or, it would have been long gone. oops sorry r29.
I think robertyb has owned the r20 for awhile. My neighbor has one too. All the history lessons I saw for the r20 where a few risers cracked years back.

 

[xcal_precision]

 

[Iron Duke]

This is like ... reading a crossbow rating list from Field & Stream or Outdoor Life. We ALL know how those articles play out don't we? 😂

 

[xcal_precision]

This is like ... reading a crossbow rating list from Field & Stream or Outdoor Life. We ALL know how those articles play out don't we? 😂

I may rename it crossbow nation consumer reports

 

[Spartan]

...to me that's like saying I want a car that's reliable. They're ALL reliable, it's a given.

You must have never owned a Toyota. I was at 170k miles on my last one before I had to take it in for any type of unscheduled service. Not even a sensor, a button or a cup holder broke. That's a different class of reliability.

 

[xcal_precision]

I've been buying Toyotas for about 25 years now and currently have a stable of them. Guess how long its been since I've seen a check engine light...

 

[Iron Duke]

If you toss ... out Reliability and Accuracy which in my opinion are "givens" and the norm for all mainstream crossbows, you're left with 4 actual subjective categories that reveal what actually differentiates CBN buyers. Those four play out MUCH closer to real world buying points in my mind. Crossbowers buy on:

#1. Cost
#2. Speed
#3. Weight
#4. Width

 

[xcal_precision]

If you toss ... out Reliability and Accuracy which in my opinion are "givens" and the norm for all mainstream crossbows, you're left with 4 actual subjective categories that reveal what actually differentiates CBN buyers. Those four play out MUCH closer to real world buying points in my mind. Crossbowers buy on:

#1. Cost
#2. Speed
#3. Weight
#4. Width

then how would folks account for bow like lizards (experienced crossbowman) 505 that shot like out of the box and string falling apart under 50 shots?

 

[xcal_precision]

the custom arrow penalty of -5 point on top of the accuracy score seems a little off to me.

Are custom arrows really that impactful to accuracy across the board for crossbows? For example lizards 505 scores higher than OEAs 505 in the accuracy measure even when lizards was shooting 4 inch groups at 40 with factory arrows and OEAs was shooting sub MOA with customs at 40 yard

 

[Iron Duke]

then how would folks account for bow like lizards (experienced crossbowman) 505 that shot like out of the box and string falling apart under 50 shots?

I thought ... we had excluded strings from this exercise? Then too we have to define .One man's is another's man's fertilizer. Further you must decide that one guy's bow shooting like should influence your final data results.😂 My 505 shot quite admirably out of the box with stock Ten Point arrows. Killed a few deer with those arrows.

 

[robertyb]

Yelpy has had one of them for quite a few years now. He sent me a pic of the buck his nephew just shot with it. Being he still has it it's gotta be keeping him satisfied or, it would have been long gone. oops sorry r29.
I think robertyb has owned the r20 for awhile. My neighbor has one too. All the history lessons I saw for the r20 where a few risers cracked years back.

I still own my R20. I did blow out a limb and broke the riser when a cable popped on mine while I was in a ground blind with the bow sitting on the ground beside me. I was using a ThreadZ string and cable at the time and knew it was on it's last legs but only had 2 days of turkey season left and thought it would last that long. I was wrong. I had already bought new S/Cs for it and just did not want to have to sight it back in so it was totally my fault.

 

[No1Rackmaster]

i would not argu with the Barrnett being the most affordable, durable and accurate crossbow for the money.

The bow mentioned is a Hugh amount of bow for the money.

This would really make sense when you think about it.

I am asked allot of questions from folks about a crossbow for hunting.
Most of the time its" could i get some thing decent for 500.00 that would be good to hunt with....?
This is exactly where i point them.

 

[xcal_precision]

I thought ... we had excluded strings from this exercise? Then too we have to define .One man's is another's man's fertilizer. Further you must decide that one guy's bow shooting like should influence your final data results.😂 My 505 shot quite admirably out of the box with stock Ten Point arrows. Killed a few deer with those arrows.

lizards 505 scored low due to high price, low shot count and 💩accuracy. String didn't impact the score. Yet....

OEAs 505 scored low due to high price, low shot count and custom arrows drove down his accuracy score down on that one.

 

[xcal_precision]

I still own my R20. I did blow out a limb and broke the riser when a cable popped on mine while I was in a ground blind with the bow sitting on the ground beside me. I was using a ThreadZ string and cable at the time and knew it was on it's last legs but only had 2 days of turkey season left and thought it would last that long. I was wrong. I had already bought new S/Cs for it and just did not want to have to sight it back in so it was totally my fault.

I wouldnt count the blow up against that bow because it was due to string neglect. Id just add the shot count and accuracy so if it has higher round count it and good accuracy without custom arrows it would probably be pretty high up on the list like lizards R20,

 

[xcal_precision]

i would not argu with the Barrnett being the most affordable, durable and accurate crossbow for the money.

The bow mentioned is a Hugh amount of bow for the money.

This would really make sense when you think about it.

I am asked allot of questions from folks about a crossbow for hunting.
Most of the time its" could i get some thing decent for 500.00 that would be good to hunt with....?
This is exactly where i point them.

it would be the smartest affordable buy so far on this report for someone looking for a narrower/faster/lighter bow than the Excalibur vortex (would have to buy used) that is currently sitting at the top due to its high round count without failure and accuracy with factory arrows.

 

[xcal_precision]