Check out Water Swatters on YouTube. Guy has killed a lot with pistol crossbows.

 

Does it have a brace? ATF regards. 😁

 

Interesting.

Demun™ Accu Strike

 

This one looks interesting

BAT Reverse Draw Compound Self-Cocking Pistol Crossbow - 420fps & 150lbs - BALLISTA

BALLISTA BAT Reverse Crossbow: Fastest 420fps self-cocking pistol crossbow, 150lbs power, 3lbs. World's lightest, 320 FPS, low friction, unique design.

ballista.co

 

This one looks interesting

BAT Reverse Draw Compound Self-Cocking Pistol Crossbow - 420fps & 150lbs - BALLISTA

BALLISTA BAT Reverse Crossbow: Fastest 420fps self-cocking pistol crossbow, 150lbs power, 3lbs. World's lightest, 320 FPS, low friction, unique design.

ballista.co

When I saw 190 fps on Barnett’s description, i though probably the same dart the Ballista Bat shoots at 400.. I personally don’t shoot pistols well enough to worry about hunting with them anymore.

 

wow 420fps 400bucks! ill have to check out some review vids!

 

I woulld not go with the reverse but with the normal one.
To many limb failures with the reverse.

 

thx but no plans to spend on anything for while. lol its very interesting i watched a couple vids. doesnt seem as accurate as full size but no surprise there. guessing the 2vane arrow mite have something to do with that? yet accurate enough at 30yrds on one vid! say 330fps with 350 arrow.

 

But for both versions I highly reccommend custom arrows. The accuracy of the arrows that come with the bow isn't really consistent.
Some batches are good, others are horrible (I had a weight difference of 22 grains, lightest to heaviest arrow in a pack of six).

That might be one factor in the video you watched.
You can easily get 2 inch groups at 60 yards with custom arrows.


Groups at 60 and 70 yards with the normal Bat (not the reversed version) from a member of a European board I'm also member of:

60 yards:

70 yards:

 

BAT Reverse Draw Compound Self-Cocking Pistol Crossbow - 420fps & 150lbs - BALLISTA

BALLISTA BAT Reverse Crossbow: Fastest 420fps self-cocking pistol crossbow, 150lbs power, 3lbs. World's lightest, 320 FPS, low friction, unique design.

ballista.co

I think the days are numbered for Ballista reverse draw as soon as they get Lawsuit papers from Scorpyd.
That's a no no!

 

You would’ve thought the same thing when William Tell Archery was selling the bow under a different name too. Never happened though. I’m no patent lawyer, but perhaps the size difference, only able to shoot two-vaned arrows, and draw mechanism is what differentiates it enough?

Who knows? And then it may not be worth the time, as another company will rebrand the bow and Scorpyd will be chasing another lawsuit. It’s not as if Junxing cares about patent infringement.

 

@Suburban Hunter

Who would have to pay the royalties? The manufacturer or the rcompany that rebrands the bow and sells it as their own creation?
Ballista buys the Bat and Bat Reverse from Junxing (iirc). They are located in Shandong, China.
Don't know if the Scorpyd patent is valid in China - or if Junxing simply doesn't care.
Maybe they even pay royalties to Scorpyd... who knows - the reverse is way more expensive than the normal version.

And in case Junxing infringes the patent - how easy or difficult is it to sue a company in China?

 

We shall see the outcome this year the way I see it.

 

I'm no patent lawyer but possibly a sales cease and desist order can be enforced to stop Ballista Reverse bows from being sold in the USA.

 

The Bat Reverse was launched 8 month ago.
I believe Scorpyd would already have taken action if something wasn't right with the Bat Reverse and Scorpyds patents or the royalties.
And we probably would have heared about it.

 

If anyone knows a seller that would ship a Ballista Bat forward limb carbine (with stock) to Australia, please pm

 

Are you able to buy through Amazon?

 

I used to kill deer with a 150 fps longbow. Theres still a broadhead imbedded I a maple tree behind the house after passing through a Buck so yeah these pistols could kill a deer easy. With a coc sharp broadhead looks like they shoot good.

 

Guy on YouTube kills squirrel, hogs, turkey, and deer with the Ballista Bat. Reverse and forward limbs