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I got my Chinese Hypodermic knock offs the other day,and I am impressed so far .I shot two into my block at 35 yards,and they were almost touching.They opened up good too..I could have probably got another shot from the shock collars,but I decided to expieriment with these two,and I took my wire feed welder,and turned the feed speed down to almost nothing,and barely tacked the blades to the ferrel were the shock collar would normaly hold them..I burned the lower part of the blade off one,so I broke the other side to match,but I did better on the second one.I was able to weld it and keep the blades intact..They aren't great welds,but they held for selveral shots yesterday,and none have poped loose so far..They are both good practice heads,and they both shoot the same,even though one has the ends of the blades burned off...I bought a pack of the Dead Ringer Freak Nasty broadheads when I first got my bow,and they also fly well,so now I need to figure which to use..I payed around $15 for a 3 pack of the Freak Nastys off Ebay,and about the same price for a dozen of the Hypodermic knockoffs.
 
Stuffed a China-dermic through a doe last night she made it all of 30 yards.. I don't think it mattered that the head was made in China to her.. Blood trail a blind man could have followed.. BTW with the lighted nock I could clearly see that the arrow flew like a laser.. Step up and buy some boys they water is good...
 
I also have experience with Chinese heads. I bought some Toxic clones for very cheap last year. They worked beautifully so far on foam targets and seem very good quality. Very well polished and sharp for the price[emoji106] can't wait to use them on real game.

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I shot a China Hypo 125 grain, 2.3" cut a few minutes ago. A true 3" cut so I had to share it. :)

I also got some of the 125gr Chinadermic Xtremes....I shot 1 head into my Rhinehart 18-1 target over 10x now and it still looks like new other than the blades are duller. ...but the blades didn't bend at all. My only complaint about these knock-off Rage Hypo's are that the blades are duller than the authentic Rages....a quick sharpening and they are just as good at a true fraction of the cost. I don't mind paying for quality stuff, but $45 for 3 broadheads is kinda nuts.
 
I also got some of the 125gr Chinadermic Xtremes....I shot 1 head into my Rhinehart 18-1 target over 10x now and it still looks like new other than the blades are duller. ...but the blades didn't bend at all. My only complaint about these knock-off Rage Hypo's are that the blades are duller than the authentic Rages....a quick sharpening and they are just as good at a true fraction of the cost. I don't mind paying for quality stuff, but $45 for 3 broadheads is kinda nuts.
My originals are just as dull if not duller than the China ones. They will not pop a stretched rubber band until touched up straight out of the packaging but both sharpen right up with my broadhead sharpener.
 
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Shot a buck today with the Chinadermic and red collar. Worked as expected, blades slit collar and deployed. Shot out of my MXB 400, 428 grs at 398 fps, deer at 38 yds.
Had to shoot through the front shoulder ( front quartering) due to only shot presented. Ferrule bent going in(about 35-40*) and trapped one blade so that it didn't fully deploy, only about 1/3, abut still exited. Blood all over the tree next to where the deer stood and on the ground, but soon spotty due to holes getting covered up. Deer ran 80 yds, piled up. Lungs were toast, nothing left. Will post a pic of the broadhead when I get time.
 
Vaguru, still good performance after hitting bone. I made the near exact same shot on a buck a few years ago with a Rage. Right at 40 yards, facing towards me, slightly quartering. Hit some leg bone going in, bend up one blade, and head came out on opposite side at about the last rib.

About a 60 yard run before pile up. I didn't get much blood either, as the wounds were nearly centered in the height of the body, and the blood was held by chest cavity.

Congratulations on the buck!
 
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Here are pics of the doe I shot today. Again with a chinadermic and red collar, 428 gr arrow at 399 fps. Complete pass through, 37 yds watched her drop in less than 10 seconds. Unfortunately, they can run a good piece in that time, she covered about 80 yds, again in the wrong direction. Was a broadside shot on her right side, entered between 2 ribs, but expanded blades did make contact, and exited cleanly between ribs. Blades did bend some, but red collar worked as expected, again. Massive damage to lungs, came out in 4 pieces. Ferrule was slight bent after impacting something hard in the ground. Again, I see no problem with the performance of these heads. Just not a fan of 2 blade heads, but these are working.
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Here is the pic of my 8 pt buck and pics of the chinadermic that did him in. And I agree William II, still good performance for this head in relation to where it hit. View attachment 80273 View attachment 80265

The more I think about it, the ferrule could have been bent after pass through as it was imbedded in the ground fairly deep. Won't know for sure, and really doesn't matter.
As they only cost $1.54 with the red rage collar, I can't buy replacement blades for anything that cheap. Now with Slick Tricks I can resharpen the blades, but occasionally they get bent as well. Unfortunately, Slick Tricks can't be shot out of the MXB 400.
 
Vaguru, and your xbox is sending out arrows on "full afterburner", right at the Mach 1 area of speed, 400 fps for crossbows. That's putting a real strain on a broadhead when it hits bone, or the ground after penetrating a deer.

For years I used the 125 gr Thunderheads in my vertical bows. Bent a few blades, broke a few blades, bent a tip or two, and also had some ferrules knocked out of line, but for me, they were the outstanding heads. Shooting them at about 280 fps.

I think with the energy we are seeing with crossbows, some damaged heads are to be expected, as long as they kill cleanly. My experience with much slower compound vertical bows is they too damaged hunting heads, and at much less energy levels.
 
Just a thought, but I would almost bet that any broadhead the Chinese sell as a knock-off is one they already make for an American manufacturer which are sold here under a brand name. (For a ridiculously high price)

I have seen Chinese Rage, Chino-Toxic, Chino Ramcats, and Chino-Montec G5 knockoffs.

But I have never seen a Chinese knock-off Grim-Reaper, Spitfire, or Slick Trick. Just assuming these are truly American made.

Might be completely wrong about the above. Not that it matters.
 
I just bough 24 Chinese 100 grain Hypodermics for $24 and there is no difference in the ones I bought for $45 a three pack from Rage other than they used a different screw holding the blades which I like anyway.
Took one yesterday and shot it three times using the same shock collar into a pretty hard broadhead target and it is still perfect and a few licks with my sharpener and it will shave.
I hate buying from China but the original Rage heads are made there too and at $1 vs. $15 each it is hard to pass on.
Okay but don't forget part of the reason the originals are $10-15 is because the company actually created and brought to market a product from scratch. All these chinese companies have done is steal a design and piggyback on another company's work.

If I put months into writing a book, get it edited, etc. and then I pay a printer in china $.50 to print it and sell it on Amazon for $10, am I ripping you off? If the printer changes the cover and prints the same book and sells it for $1, are they selling it at a fair price or am I? These chinese companies have stolen intellectual property, it's that simple.

Get them if you like but don't pretend there is any sort of morality that is being corrected by paying them a "fair" price because the US company is ripping you off.
 
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