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grim reapers vs others.

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#1 ·
shooting a Barnett wildcat c6 and shot a doe with slick tricks mag 100gr and blood was good for awhile but then stopped.

I'm thinking about switching to grim reapers or another mechanical. any thoughts>?

looking for something tough but will cut the mess out of them.
 
#4 ·
Here is a copy of a post I recently made to answer a question that was simular to yours.


It doesn't get any better than Grim Reaper Broadheads. There was a time when I swore I'd never put a mechanical on any of my arrows. But when I got a high speed crossbow shooting at 406 fps, well I just couldn't get any fixed blade to group. So I began a lengthy and in-depth search of what mechanical to buy. I read review's, watched videos, scoured magazine adds, and called broadhead manufactures to ask how they tested their product, at what fps, what they shot, angle, consistency, etc... and to ask if they'd refund my purchase if their product didn't perform exactly as advertised.

My phone conversations with Grim Reaper technical support and customer service was rather impressive. So I decided to see if their product could live up to or surpass my extremely high expectations.
I'm very picky about my hunting equipment. I'm not just a man who shoots deer. I'm a avid outdoorsman who highly respects the outdoors and the game I hunt. Accuracy, consistency, dependability, and reliability, are all "a must" for me. When I take aim I don't want any doubts about how my equipment will perform. I want to hit the exact spot I'm aiming for, otherwise the product has failed one of my expectations. I like to put a "quick clean kill shot" on game I hunt, and expect the same accuracy on the range.

So now that you know a little more about how hard it is to impress me... well I was impressed with Grim Reapers XBow RazorTip 125 grain. But that was just on the target... I had yet to give the Grim Reaper a final test!!! Once again I was impressed with the damage the broadhead did to the deer. So impressed that I equipped all my crossbows with Grim Reaper Xbow RazorRip 125 grain.

I have since taken many more game animals using only the Grim Reapers. As I stated earlier "I'm a hard guy to impress", and I also swore I'd never have mechanicals on my arrows. Yet now all I own are the mechanical Grim Reapers. All my Muzzy, SlickTrick, and Razorback 5 broadheads have been retired.

In the years since I've began using the Grim Reaper I've changed a few things. I got rid of my high speed xbows and decided I didn't want anything over 350 fps. Anything higher was overkill and too much money was being spent on targets and more arrows due to lost arrows blowing through targets. So now I own 5 crossbows ranging from 300 fps to 340 fps... and I kill deer with each of them. Matter of fact last year I downed a big bodied 8 point buck with only 300 fps at 35 yards. Dropped less than 30 yards away with a heart/lung shot.

So even though I've made a few changes, one thing has stayed the same... you can count on Grim Reapers being on my arrows when you see me in my blinds or treestands.

Grim Reaper also has a very strong following here on Crossbow Nation. Many people like them, some swear by them.

But as with any advice I give, I must add... "just cause it's perfect for me doesn't mean it'll also be perfect for you".

Hope this helps

lovetohunt
 
#5 ·
If your talking about that doe you shot high on earlier, could have missed all vitals, and could be hard to track. There are quit a few members in here that shoot slick tricks and swear by them. Sometimes it more about shot placement than the broadhead your using. Anyways i shoot Grim Reapers.
 
#8 ·
Slick trick is one of the best broadheads on the market if you ask me. Incredibly strong, super sharp, 4 cutting blades, they will easily crush through shoulders. If you lose a deer with a slick trick you made a bad shot. Now maybe they don't fly as good as a mechanical out of a super fast crossbow. That's the only disadvantage I can think of.
 
#10 ·
ProStreetCamaro said:
Slick trick is one of the best broadheads on the market if you ask me. Incredibly strong, super sharp, 4 cutting blades, they will easily crush through shoulders. If you lose a deer with a slick trick you made a bad shot. Now maybe they don't fly as good as a mechanical out of a super fast crossbow. That's the only disadvantage I can think of.
X2. They can also be resharpened (ferrule & blades) with good whetstones.

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#11 ·
Old Summit said:
If your talking about that doe you shot high on earlier, could have missed all vitals, and could be hard to track. There are quit a few members in here that shoot slick tricks and swear by them. Sometimes it more about shot placement than the broadhead your using. Anyways i shoot Grim Reapers.
Slick tricks are good heads or all the good folks here wouldnt be using 'em. I'll disagree with Old Summit on this one too. I think it's ALL about shot placement.:)
 
#13 ·
Gabowman said:
Slick tricks are good heads or all the good folks here wouldnt be using 'em. I'll disagree with Old Summit on this one too. I think it's ALL about shot placement.:)
You sure you dont mean agree, just messing with you . lol .
 
#14 ·
lovetohunt said:
Hey I'm a "good folk" and I use Grim Reaper... just messing with ya Gabowman.

lovetohunt
Have you shot them at longer distances? I test shot a real GR, not just the practice head. They were fine at 30 yds but at 40 they had dipped a few inches low and left for me.
 
#15 ·
meck1776 said:
Have you shot them at longer distances? I test shot a real GR, not just the practice head. They were fine at 30 yds but at 40 they had dipped a few inches low and left for me.
Yes I have tested em at longer distances... out to 50 yards with the broadhead and never had a problem. Honestly I'd never shoot a deer at that distance, but I'm very thorough about testing all my equipment... so I always push the limits when I'm testing.

I'm shooting my Grim Reaper RazorTip broadheads on Black Eagle Executioner arrows. My FOC (Front Of Center) is 18.18%. A lot of archers are (actually most) are between 10-15% FOC with broadheads on their arrows and 8-11% with a field tip. I like a higher FOC cause it's better for long distance and better penetration.

The basic definition of FOC is the percent difference between the physical midpoint of the arrow and the center of gravity (balance point) of the arrow as compared to the total length.

When an arrow is shot, the fletchings immediately begin working to correct the flight of the arrow. Any little imperfection in the initial launch of the arrow, either from shooting off hand, imperfect release, improperly tuned crossbow, arrow not loaded correcly, crossbow not cocked evenly etc. will cause the arrow to flex as it leaves the crossbow and/or come out crooked. The job of the fletchings is to correct this imperfect flight by straightening the arrow as air flows over the fletchings during flight.

In order for the fletchings to correct the flight of the arrow, they must move the arrow into a straighter flight path by rotating the shaft about the center of pressure. The center of pressure is the point along the shaft where the aerodynamic forces are balanced. Just like with a weather vane, the fletchings on the back of the arrow provide more surface area on which the air can act upon the arrow.

Fletchings are best able to steer the arrow when the center of pressure is farther behind the center of gravity. This is more easily done the longer the distance from the fletchings to the center of gravity. Therefore the farther the center of gravity is from the back of the arrow, the easier it is for the fletchings to correct the arrow flight.

If the center of gravity and center of pressure are too close together, or worse if the center of gravity is behind the center of pressure, the arrow will become unstable. To witness this, take an arrow or a dart and try to throw it backwards! What happens?

For penetration purposes, the opposite phenomenon occurs. A larger FOC will prevent and arrow from flexing as much when coming into contact with the intended target. Hunters will want a higher FOC so that as the broadhead enters the the game, the distance from the front of the arrow to the center of gravity is lower, making it more difficult for the arrow to flex or deflect. Any flex or deflection of the shaft upon entry means that energy is being lost somewhere other than directly along the center of the shaft, lessening the overall penetration.

A larger FOC is necessary for shooting long distances where crosswinds tend to have a large effect on arrow flight. The same applies to shooting broadheads because the larger surface area of a broadhead is more greatly affected by launch imperfections as well as crosswinds. Broadheads effectively move the center of pressure closer to the point and tend to steer an arrow which can often have a negative affect that the fletchings must overcome.

lovetohunt
 
#16 ·
ProStreetCamaro said:
Slick trick is one of the best broadheads on the market if you ask me. Incredibly strong, super sharp, 4 cutting blades, they will easily crush through shoulders. If you lose a deer with a slick trick you made a bad shot. Now maybe they don't fly as good as a mechanical out of a super fast crossbow. That's the only disadvantage I can think of.
If they don't fly as good it makes it harder to be deadly accurate. The Grim Reaper 1 3/8" razor tip makes a much bigger hole which I think is a huge advantage.
 
#17 ·
As I type this I have several weights & types of broadhead within arms reach...including Grim Reapers...but only one will hunt with me.

And it won't be the Reapers.

Crossbow Spitfire Max 125gr. 1.75" cut go hunting........all others are dust collectors & reminders.

When you first look at both the Reapers & Spitfires, they have a simular look to each other on the tip of a arrow.......but differ in one important way that, to me, is all important.

Reapers secure the blades on the head with a split ring that encircles the heads shaft & all 3 blades slip onto it. And when, not if, that split rings opening lines up with one of the 3 blades.....you lose that blade...1/3 your cut is gone.

Spitfire uses small screws, one to each blade, that secures the blades to the shaft of the head. And I've never had one of the screws come out. Being a bit on the parinod side regarding Mr. Murphy, I do check them time to time, but no issues.

When I was first testing broadheads I found the Reapers to shoot accurately as any I tried from my Scorpyd 165 Xbow. If not for that one flaw with the split ring I'd be shooting them now, as I liked the razor tip type better than any other.

BUT, as the Spits don't drop blades & also group well.......they go with me hunting.

I sometimes wonder if I just got a hold of a bad batch, but no longer matters. The Spits have worked well & they're what I'll continue with as if one bad batch of Reapers got out the door, others will as well & that will always be in my mind.

Always check your broadheads for flaws prior to hunting, regardless of past perfection, brand ect.
 
#18 ·
Old Summit said:
Old Summit, on 05 Oct 2015 - 7:42 PM, said:

Sometimes it more about shot placement than the broadhead your using.
It's ALWAYS about shot placement! You can shoot them with a howitzer, but if you hit 'em in the butt you might just lose 'em.
The most important thing is to have a head that shoots accurately enough to be confident in your placement.

I've killed deer with more different styles of broadhead than I care to even remember. Put where they need to be they all work.
That said, for the last several years I've pretty much settled in on Swhacker's, Gator XP's, and Meatseeker 3-blade's. All shoot like field points, the Swhacker's and Gator's make HUGE holes, and the Meatseeker's by virtue of being 3-blade make holes that can't close up. Of the three I have to say that I prefer the Gator XP's. They make a big hole on entry as well as on exit, don't care about angular hits, and have no o-rings or bands to fail.

Here's an angular hit Gator entrance wound (notice two ribs cut through).

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#22 ·
I have some 100 gr razor tips sitting around. I was thinking of using them from my new xbow, shoots a 430 gr arrow at 403 fps. Seeing as how they are not xbow specific, should I put a band or two on them? I have shot them with the blades held together with string material, and they shoot the same as my trick mags. Just wanting to maybe try something different.
 
#23 ·
vaguru said:
I have some 100 gr razor tips sitting around. I was thinking of using them from my new xbow, shoots a 430 gr arrow at 403 fps. Seeing as how they are not xbow specific, should I put a band or two on them? I have shot them with the blades held together with string material, and they shoot the same as my trick mags. Just wanting to maybe try something different.
I put dental bands on all mechanicals, not a big deal, just to be on the safe side. Its not a hassle. I shoot the Grim Reapers, rated for 400fps, and shoot around 355fps, and still band them, better to be safe than sorry. Not that there has been a problem with pre-mature opening, its all about me feeling confident in my equipment, dont leave no stone unturned, just a thought.
 
#25 ·
tooldtoquit said:
tooldtoquit, on 03 Dec 2015 - 2:22 PM, said:

If i was new to hunting with bow be it xbow or compound and was looking to get broadheads for them, i would be really confused on what to get after reading all the post on this subject. It seems like to me we should say all popular broadheads will work, just decide if you want fixed or mechanical.
I'd go along with that, but there's at least a little more to it.

For starters, how they fly from various bows at a variety of speeds and conditions. And when you talk mechanicals, method of blade deployment can be pretty important. Even with fixed it matters whether they are long or short, vented blades or solid, heavy enough to produce good FOC numbers or not, etc....

And as if that isn't enough, then you throw other components into the mix (like fletchings) that effect how a head flies. It's enough to make your head spin. But if those things are important to you to be confident in your ability to execute a clean ethical kill, then it's good to have discussions like this one. As Old Summit put it, "Leave no stone unturned."
 
#26 ·
Old Longhair said:
I'd go along with that, but there's at least a little more to it.

For starters, how they fly from various bows at a variety of speeds and conditions. And when you talk mechanicals, method of blade deployment can be pretty important. Even with fixed it matters whether they are long or short, vented blades or solid, heavy enough to produce good FOC numbers or not, etc....

And as if that isn't enough, then you throw other components into the mix (like fletchings) that effect how a head flies. It's enough to make your head spin. But if those things are important to you to be confident in your ability to execute a clean ethical kill, then it's good to have discussions like this one. As Old Summit put it, "Leave no stone unturned."
What you say may be true, but every broadhead i bought and in the future, i check the reviews on that broadhead and also i go to the manufacture and read up on that broadhead.