Wondering what the maximum effective kill range of a crossbow would be?
Maximum Effective Range
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You guys ever seen how yotes take down deer!?..... Ain't pretty!!
If I let one go just because I'm afraid of hit'n a bit bad, the buggar will be rip'n the guts out of a deer shortly after....
If I let one go just because I'm afraid of hit'n a bit bad, the buggar will be rip'n the guts out of a deer shortly after....
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Good grief.
I'm a 'scoundrel'.....!!! LOL! You're hilarious!!!! LMAO!!!!!!
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Thats about like me saying about my corn fields on my farm you ever seen a deer take down a cornfield . your excuse or mine does not justify any of us taking an unethical shot on an animal
Ok. I hear ya dudes....I know what you're say'n, but, I've hit a yote before too far back with my rifle, and he really didn't last long anyway. I think their bodies are small enough, that they can't take as much as a deer can....
So. like Robert, if I get a chance too whack one, I'm gonna take the shot, even if it's not quite ideal because.....
Gotta go here,
KTK
So. like Robert, if I get a chance too whack one, I'm gonna take the shot, even if it's not quite ideal because.....
Gotta go here,
KTK
I suggest that the personal attacks cease. They do no one any good but do a lot of harm. Personally, I hate coyotes due largely to the fact that they are a threat to my cat. I love my cat! They are not native to this area but were introduced in the 50s to give the Fox hunters game to chase since they about wiped out the fox population.
Then in the 60s , Fox/coyote hunting virtually stopped, trapping ceased and we were overrun by coyotes and still are.
Back in the 1990s, we had a three week cold snap with ice/snow everywhere and temps around zero. I was in a stand with my Black Widow, and watched 8 coyotes cross a field and set up under my tree stand. When I tried to come down, they tried to attack me. I had only 4 arrows. No flashlight as I was leaving before dark to get to church, that evening. It got dark. They were still there. Eventually they left. Temp was well below zero. It was a long, scary , crunchy, dark 600-700 yards to my truck.
I have yet to wound a coyote , without killing it (40 NBT out of 223 or 17g Vmax out of 17 HMR or an arrow); but I do not show them the respect that I do most other animals. I suspect Robert wouldn’t want them to suffer either. They are horrible on deer. They are a major factor on fawn mortality here in Arkansas. Unfortunately, packs of 2 or more domestic dogs are also. Though I hate them running deer, period, especially in my woods, I don’t shoot them. Their owners are at fault.
Then in the 60s , Fox/coyote hunting virtually stopped, trapping ceased and we were overrun by coyotes and still are.
Back in the 1990s, we had a three week cold snap with ice/snow everywhere and temps around zero. I was in a stand with my Black Widow, and watched 8 coyotes cross a field and set up under my tree stand. When I tried to come down, they tried to attack me. I had only 4 arrows. No flashlight as I was leaving before dark to get to church, that evening. It got dark. They were still there. Eventually they left. Temp was well below zero. It was a long, scary , crunchy, dark 600-700 yards to my truck.
I have yet to wound a coyote , without killing it (40 NBT out of 223 or 17g Vmax out of 17 HMR or an arrow); but I do not show them the respect that I do most other animals. I suspect Robert wouldn’t want them to suffer either. They are horrible on deer. They are a major factor on fawn mortality here in Arkansas. Unfortunately, packs of 2 or more domestic dogs are also. Though I hate them running deer, period, especially in my woods, I don’t shoot them. Their owners are at fault.
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I stayed out of the bickering but this is ridiculous. Your really comparing your corn to a deer being ripped apart by a coyote?
I know when I set up next too a corn field and watch the deer chowing on corn I feel terrible for those poor corn cobs.
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Sorry Im a farmer and its 1000s of dollars being lost has nothing to do with feeling sorry for a corn cob you are missing the point no one has the right to kill any animal unethically . Most of the farmers around here want every deer killed by any means possible .
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They even hand out nuisance permits allowing farmers to slaughter deer by the truckload and many do it. Not for me but I dont fault them for wanting to kill them Like i said as long as it is done ethically The same with coyotes I care less how many people want to kill but dont come on here and tell someone its unethical to shoot a deer over so many yards . Then out of the other side of your mouth say shoot at a coyote where ever and how ever far you want
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I don't like coyotes and kill one whenever I get the chance. But, I do respect the coyote. He is who he is. Therefore, I don't take shots at them that I'm not sure will kill him instantly.
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well said
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That experience really sends a chill down your spine doesn't it. I had a similar experience a few years ago during muzzle loader season. I was sitting there with one ball in the gun on the ground and a pack of coyotes starting howling and ripping apart some animal they had caught, quite a a lot of growling and howling less than 50 yards away and still fairly dark out. I stayed still for about an hour and as soon as it got quiet I moved out of there, I was a good mile back in, since that experience and a few episodes with bears and cubs and coming across someones drug patch growing in the forest I started carrying a pistol when archery or muzzleloader hunting.
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In NY we aren't aloud to carry a pistol during Archery season. I have a conceal carry permit and I can't carry while I am hunting. We have the most ridiculous laws here. I am a law abiding citizen, but I have seriously considered breaking this one, although I haven't yet. We have a ton of coyote an although I haven't seen one while hunting I have gotten bears on my trail cam. These stories are what I think about when I am walking into or out of my stand in the dark and you can hear the coyotes sounding off and I sure wouldn't want to walk up on a bear in the dark, especially if it has cubs....
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The problems I've had with bears are mostly because people that have seasonal properties here like to feed them and they no longer fear humans. I have been in a ladder stand archery season and the sow and cubs come in and start climbing in oak trees knocking down acorns then they come back to the ground to start eating and the next thing you know the cubs are starting to climb up my stand. I tried to scare them away and the sow gets aggressive. Not a good situation.
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Yea, that's scary!The problems I've had with bears are mostly because people that have seasonal properties here like to feed them and they no longer fear humans. I have been in a ladder stand archery season and the sow and cubs come in and start climbing in oak trees knocking down acorns then they come back to the ground to start eating and the next thing you know the cubs are starting to climb up my stand. I tried to scare them away and the sow gets aggressive. Not a good situation.
Bear. Bear spray. It works! If I had a choice between bear spray and a Casul 454, when up against an aggressive bear, I’d choose the bear spray.
After my coyote experience and a bear experience, with bear spray, I have it in my pack. I also carry a pistol. In Arkansas, a concealed carry license allows this. Arkansas has some pretty good hunting laws, IMO. Example: archery deer season opened on Sep 28 and is still going.
After my coyote experience and a bear experience, with bear spray, I have it in my pack. I also carry a pistol. In Arkansas, a concealed carry license allows this. Arkansas has some pretty good hunting laws, IMO. Example: archery deer season opened on Sep 28 and is still going.
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I saw lots of good answers to the original question: What is the maximum effective range of a crossbow?"
Many experts judge this by the amount of Kinetic Energy the crossbow delivers. For example one source stated that a crossbow shooting an arrow at 300 fps will maintain enough KE to take a deer at 50 yards. Then another 2nd source indicated 25 KE was enough to kill a deer. Yet another stated 40 KE is enough to kill a deer with a crossbow.
The point is there is plenty of KE in crossbows that most of us shoot and hunt with.
My Ripper 415 that shoots a 425 gr arrow at 410 fps will have plenty of KE at 100 yards to be effective as for energy (KE) but there are other factors a sportsman much consider before attempting the shot. Those have mentioned in the above threads.
I created the chart below to illustrate the drop in KE from 0 to 300 yards using my KI Ripper 415 as an example. The arrow starts with 159 ft.lbf of KE then drops to 39 ft.lbf at 300 yards which is still enough to kill a deer if the shot is perfect.
I am not say shot if you have the KE required. That isn't what the question was about.
I did see a antelope kill shot video on "Youtube" that was shot at 100 yards.
For me I have the terrain that would allow me to take long shot kills. For example my longest deer kill shot with a rifle is 370 yards. But with a crossbow a few deer kills at 45 yards range. Those 45 yard shots had arrows passed thru with crossbows rated at 300 and 370 fps. I'm still waiting for a deer to present the perfect broadside shot at longer distance to even consider. I am confident to 60 yards with my Ripper. That means I shoot enough at that yardage to confirm my crossbow and my abilities.
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Enjoy!
Many experts judge this by the amount of Kinetic Energy the crossbow delivers. For example one source stated that a crossbow shooting an arrow at 300 fps will maintain enough KE to take a deer at 50 yards. Then another 2nd source indicated 25 KE was enough to kill a deer. Yet another stated 40 KE is enough to kill a deer with a crossbow.
The point is there is plenty of KE in crossbows that most of us shoot and hunt with.
My Ripper 415 that shoots a 425 gr arrow at 410 fps will have plenty of KE at 100 yards to be effective as for energy (KE) but there are other factors a sportsman much consider before attempting the shot. Those have mentioned in the above threads.
I created the chart below to illustrate the drop in KE from 0 to 300 yards using my KI Ripper 415 as an example. The arrow starts with 159 ft.lbf of KE then drops to 39 ft.lbf at 300 yards which is still enough to kill a deer if the shot is perfect.
I am not say shot if you have the KE required. That isn't what the question was about.
I did see a antelope kill shot video on "Youtube" that was shot at 100 yards.
For me I have the terrain that would allow me to take long shot kills. For example my longest deer kill shot with a rifle is 370 yards. But with a crossbow a few deer kills at 45 yards range. Those 45 yard shots had arrows passed thru with crossbows rated at 300 and 370 fps. I'm still waiting for a deer to present the perfect broadside shot at longer distance to even consider. I am confident to 60 yards with my Ripper. That means I shoot enough at that yardage to confirm my crossbow and my abilities.
Enjoy!
Accuracy aside, ranging error/trajectory problems are the major factors in crossbow hunting, IMO. Followed by animal movement, which I believe can be minimized by careful shot timing and shooting quiet arrow/broad head combinations.
Energy remaining shouldn’t be a problem.
Energy remaining shouldn’t be a problem.
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