@OLDFLYER awesome

that video is awesome. I’d like to see more slow mo videos

 

Nearly 5 years ago, I PM’d Old Flyer to ask about his board name. Former crop duster. Later that evening, we had a ph call. The next day I drove >150 miles one way to buy a SWAT. I became obsessed with the accuracy. My unbridled enthusiasm concerning the SWAT‘s balance, ease of cocking, cost, TRIGGER, real cocking, size and extreme accuracy likely got on a lot of people’s nerves.
The accuracy and ability to shoot mediocre arrows very accurately was astounding. The X1, especially with current S&Cs is the pinnacle of current, SWAT production. But, you can bet, KI has lots going on behind the scenes. After all, 1 lone X1 is beating virtually a herd of Sub-1s on the competitive circuit. However, Bmiller might just play into this somehow. Brian/X1 make a formidable force on the competitive field.
Better things are to come!🙂

 

Nice. I still may get one someday. I’m assuming with the severe limitations on fletching , the SWATs would almost require mechanical broadheads?

 

There isn’t that large of limitation on fletching. There isn’t a great need for a lot of fletching. I am running the tiny Bohning X-3 vanes with 2 degrees of offset. I didn’t do it because I had to, I wanted decreased drag and have an arrow that was less effected by the wind. I have not played with fixed heads a lot, I like mechanicals. I see no reason a fixed wouldn’t fly great. I have shot the large 375 grain and 775 grain fixed heads. They are crazy accurate.

I want to play with the G5 M3 broadhead.

 

Wow, that IS stable! I keep tellin Mrs. Pine what a shooter Stubby is! Even SHE is impressed....

 

WOW! Great video. Crazy arrow flight. I was not looking for another xbow, this might cost me!

 

Ditto. I have been intrigued by the enclosed barrel for a couple years now.
Been waiting for a bit to see how the X1 release played out.
So far, it has been positive, for the most part, from what users here have posted.
This video just sold me 100%, thanks @bmiller for sharing!

 

Turns out Old Flyer, SEW and others were correct all along in their assertions that archers paradox was greatly reduced in Swat bows.
Anyone who ever spent much time shooting a X1 knew there was SOMETHING going on with the arrows that created amazing accuracy.
This video finally proves what these men have been saying all along.
Great video, thanks for sharing it with us.

 

People have not believed me (OR) did not want to admit it for over 30 years now. I should have been rich a long time ago. But, my Father in Heaven had other plans for me and becoming rich was not one of them. That's ok though. No regrets.

 

Amazing video...that arrow coming out of the Non-SWAT looks like a damn fish swimming 🐠🐠🐟🐟

 

What was the arrow speed out of the non KI crossbow?

 

Arrow was same weight and same speed as I was told by Jason.

 

did you notise last arrow tried to spin ccw then switched to cw
i have no idea if this truly effects poi, specially in crossbows
but on the video (which i cant find) it did effect on trad

 

I watched a video from Lancaster Archery on this subject and they concluded the direction the serving is put down influences arrow rotation. I cut the fletchings off one of my old arrows and at 3 yards it makes a little over half a rotation to the left. I reflected all my arrows to left hand rotation. I can’t say it made a difference, but helped my OCD.😆

 

Jeff, your reward will not be measured in silver or gold but one day you will have a crown.🙏

 

If we do good unto others, Father will give us ALL a crown. I'm not special here my friend.

 

this is just beautifull

 

its banner size now

 

Incredible arrow flight !!

 

Wat site do I or can I go to so I can order a new butt stock for my bruin ambush 370 cross bow can any one tell me please cuz I have been looking for one ever since mine broke u can send me the site or any info to me to this number 1-660-262-5152 please any one I hope there is some one out there that can help me please ??????

 

Doing an internet search I came up with bruinoutdoors.com
They referred to www.sportsmansoutfitters.com They list the
complete crossbow package on sale for $189.00. Regular
price is $459.99 They show 151 in stock at the present time.

Wishing you all the best.
Take care.

 

Iron Duke. I wonder if you had an XP and shot 375 Shartac/Edgetac broadheads if it would be 1) flat enough trajectory-wise and 2) enough knockdown power. I think it just might.

 

Funny ... 10 minutes ago I was just thinking if you guys could cross reference your flatter trajectory findings to a "normal" arrow trajectory. For example, a SWAT with that harpoon traveling at 360fps hits to the same POI as a Scorpyd shooting a 450fps. One of you guys must have charted this stuff?

 

I personally am not shocked by the video .
Confirms what I figured all along , just one reason I love the Swats !!!!!

 

It’s proof that the barrel gives bolts stability above and beyond all other crossbows .they future will be good for this platform as long as the rest of the bow improves from whats learned from the killer instinct diehards like sew and burkhy and the others

 

All KI has to do is to build it the way I had shown them 6 years ago and add proper strings, arrow combinations, scopes that Steve, Don, Brian, Burk and others have contributed samples and thoughts on and KI's cams and aesthetics, and we would have the bow.

 

Sew need a 300 grain dead x 3 blade big game Broadhead to test out of his barreled swats . it would really be unbelievable if the swat shot that thing with pinpoint accuracy he is getting from the 375 Shart acts. Some really fun stuff to see

 

...I wonder if it's a matter of K.I. "hearing you" and just not listening or them putting their own "spin" on your ideas?
If they would "listen", then maybe they wouldn't experience some of the issues that have been experienced with XP and the X1?.
Im just thinking out loud here is all..
Maybe it's just a case of better factory string n cables and more quality control on limbs??
I dunno, I am NO engineering major..

 

If they'd come up with a decock mechanism and improved Q.C...I would be all in to give this X1 another shot..

 

Yes b Miller it sure looks like in the video that began the thread the traditional rail Xbox comes out left then stops and wants to go right..idk I’m tired my eyes are sandy and I need to go to bed

 

Just re watched yes they all seem like they pause and want to turn from going left back to right or just hang up as they go by pretty crazy

 

Very cool video

 

Actual data taken on my LabRadar chrono with shooting the 375 grain point on my Tapp shafts with my slightly de-tuned X-1. I changed the zero distance to 30 yards. Steve asked me to run this chart for him a while back.

 

Chart of same arrow same zero starting out at 350 FPS. That was a guesstimate on the initial velocity. In my mind, the huge broadheads are a trade off. They are extremely efficient. When you shoot them in an X-1 they are freakishly quiet. The super heavy setup is amazing. It looses 3 FPS to 40 yards. That being said gravity acts on all projectiles the same. It takes longer to get there, and it drops further. I would not call either on these trajectory curves flat. But you could probably shoot through the bear and the steel drum he is eating out of.