Pulling the trigger with no arrow loaded should not have allowed it to fire.

 

It didn’t, the anti dry whatever it’s called on tenpoints caught it

 

So it released the string from the claws and was caught by the anti dryfire?

 

Yes

 

If i understand the bow is now shooting 1 1/2" right after the ADF caught the string. Why? what moved? POI should not have changed.

I just had a nock failure on a Mission 400 that cut the string and it dry fired. I ordered a new string put it on and POI didn't change at 50 yards. I have forgot to load a arrow using Excaliburs i'm ashamed to say how many times and never experienced a change in POI.

Id want to get it checked might just be the string was stretched and its out of tune. But i didn't understand the string is catching the trigger claws when you shoot?

 

Hate that. Been there myself with a ten point havoc. Mine bent the latches and needed replacing wasn’t a truth adf as yours is though.

 

It sounds like the latch lever is bent. A local service center can change that out for you.

 

Are you talking about the catch that holds the string? Or the pins that the dogs/hooks grab? I really looked it over good this morning. Whatever it is you can’t see it so it must be a minimal bend? I’m sure it doesn’t take much to throw things out of proportion. Nothing feels “tight” as far as any of the moving parts in the trigger box. I’ll have it checked out. I shot it a little bit ago and it’s about an inch low and inch right from where it was. I am definitely happy that’s all that happened if the lever got slightly bent. Could have been much worse.

 

Congrats on the birds - sorry to hear about the bow. TenPoint service center would be the next step to see if something got bent or not…

 

If i understand the bow is now shooting 1 1/2" right after the ADF caught the string. Why? what moved? POI should not have changed.

I just had a nock failure on a Mission 400 that cut the string and it dry fired. I ordered a new string put it on and POI didn't change at 50 yards. I have forgot to load a arrow using Excaliburs i'm ashamed to say how many times and never experienced a change in POI.

Id want to get it checked might just be the string was stretched and its out of tune. But i didn't understand the string is catching the trigger claws when you shoot?

I don’t think the string is catching the trigger claws when I shoot. I shot this morning and it’s was much closer than after it happened. It could have been I was so upset with myself. As far as latching the trigger box onto the string it’s ok. Shooting feels/sounds no different than before. The only thing I’ve noticed is releasing the trigger box to slide it down the rail those dogs/hooks catch the pins slightly. I’ll attach a picture showing releasing the trigger box. You can see how close those hooks are to the pins.

If i understand the bow is now shooting 1 1/2" right after the ADF caught the string. Why? what moved? POI should not have changed.

I just had a nock failure on a Mission 400 that cut the string and it dry fired. I ordered a new string put it on and POI didn't change at 50 yards. I have forgot to load a arrow using Excaliburs i'm ashamed to say how many times and never experienced a change in POI.

Id want to get it checked might just be the string was stretched and its out of tune. But i didn't understand the string is catching the trigger claws when you shoot?

no I don’t think it’s catching when I shoot. To release the trigger box you push the hooks down so the trigger box can slide down to latch the string. Those hooks are slightly catching the pins. I’ll attach a picture showing.

 

I don’t think the string is catching the trigger claws when I shoot. I shot this morning and it’s was much closer than after it happened. It could have been I was so upset with myself. As far as latching the trigger box onto the string it’s ok. Shooting feels/sounds no different than before. The only thing I’ve noticed is releasing the trigger box to slide it down the rail those dogs/hooks catch the pins slightly. I’ll attach a picture showing releasing the trigger box. You can see how close those hooks are to the pins.

no I don’t think it’s catching when I shoot. To release the trigger box you push the hooks down so the trigger box can slide down to latch the string. Those hooks are slightly catching the pins. I’ll attach a picture showing. View attachment 349281

That means it has bent the pins that the hooks catch on. That usually means a dry fry occurred and it caught.. that what’s it’s supposed to do. It’s heaps better than blowing up the bow. Simple fix. Ask me how I know . Been there and done that. There are better designs now from Tenpoint and others.

 

You can see the tips of the hooks are worn a little but this bow has been shot thousands of times since 2020.

 

The pin that holds the latch releases that you have your finger on is bent. I did the exact same thing with my 505 usually they have to replace the pin and the latches themselves. Thats why its not clearing to release the trigger box to slide down the rail

 

Brother, I hope you get that sorted out quickly.

 

While I am thankful nothing worse happened, I can understand the complaints about it. Without an arrow loaded the string should not move if the trigger is pulled. But this is on me. I take full responsibility and I am not in the least upset with tenpoint. Except for a bent pin the bow is fine.

 

Hate that. Lot of stress on today’s bows. I have only held a siege but seems like a sweet bow

 

Yes it is, it has been a very solid dependable bow. I’ve has it cocked for hours days on end. I don’t worry about anything with this bow which is a huge piece of mind.