I’m betting money they ATA changed shorter as we have already discovered , to keep off the v grooves, instead of a radial groove, shorter ata increases speed as top posted on review page , if this guy would have shot the shit out of his Raptor maybe he would have figured some of it out.

 

Could this be the long rumored version of the Halo scope? Also, looks like new cams too.

 

All looks good, Tom. Hope it works out and they can employ all of George’s fixes. Sticking with my tried and true schedule, I may be up for one in 2026! Finally getting a SWAT X1 this year.

I know I’m old, but the loud, blaring hip hop seems an odd musical choice.

 

I know I’m old, but the loud, blaring hip hop seems an odd musical choice.

Joe PA, duly noted! It's primary reason I cut and paste the video so I could highlight Barnett's 2024 direction.

 

It's my understanding that most issues have been addressed. Been disconnected from this version due to other projects I'm involved in but expect the cams and other items in the background have been revised. That's all I can say!
Nice looking bow however and wish them well.

 

George, beyond the V-groove fix I'm not sure the cams are much different operationally. Seems to me they probably shortened the cables by 1/8 to 1/4" to advance cams to reach 425fps.

We'll know more about the Buk sight/optic. That's kinda sorta interesting.

 

Not sure where the MSRP is BUT it needs to be south of the TP VenomX by hundreds. In comparison, I think every bow offering without a full integrated crank, sub 1K price tag, better be <700.00ish range. Going to be some tight competition this year where it's only a matter of 20-25% difference in money to either buy American made or Offshore product.
Life has choices!

 

George, for me Built in crank is a nuanced value. Many will want that feature. Me, I like the the autonomy to rope cock if the CCD breaks down. That is my one concerns with VenomX. Murphy's law. One of the things I like about Swat X1 and Hyper Raptor is the ability to do both. The De-cocking feature is nice but not game changer for me. Just a counter perspective.

Barnett cut the weight down from 7.2lbs to 6.9lbs with this Gen2 HR. Could me marketing monkey business too.

 

Question.........if one shortens the ATA on bows, doesn't that put added stress on the limbs?

 

Yes, but at the same time hyper limbs may be able to handle that. Not sure the limbs look different vs Gen1. Just a semi educated guess. I've done fair bit of advancing cams on Barnett TS370 with shorter custom cables and never an issue. I wouldn't shy away from that with my Gen1 HyperRaptor. That's my historical persona. Time will tell.

 

Thanks. I was referring to any crossbow.

 

Duly noted, There are always risk fo sho.

 

Regarding limb concerns:
One must understand that Barnett's design of the riser limb bracket pivots on the front axle(s) where most other offerings are mounted solid on the front rendering the potion of the limb from the mounting to the pivot pucks useless. The HR design utilizes near 100% of the limb total length providing proportional stress over the near entire distance. This one feature will provide much longer limb life over solid mount designs, hands down. Along with the fact Barnett has a very good track record of limb performance. Having tested many other brands that had limb failures within 50 shots, limb issues on the HR are pretty much a non issue. AND, they do match the limb deflection on the HR. For those who have had gen 1 bows apart, the limbs are marked with the deflection rate on each bow.
FD

 

If I ever buy another crossbow, I will consult with @TomOnTheRun first. I have to break the TenPoint loyalty.

 

Not seeing the hype on venom X. Not exceptionally anything. 215 lb pull not gonna be pleasant. Power stroke is short, that's a plus. No adjustable stock,minus. Speed Is acceptable. Reasonably narrow. Weight 6.9 but thats probably without ccd.Does not look like Trigger tech filtered down to it. Basically it's performance level is about the same as an XP 385,only heavier and not near the trigger. Triple the price. Not convinced of their everything built in USA claims.

 

Weight 6.9 but thats probably without ccd.

6.9 lbs including the accuslide but without accessories.
Other than the accu draw, the accuslide is not removable. Therefore the weight given in the specs is always including the accuslide.

 

That is a plus ,cannot find what rail is made from. Aluminum or synthetic?

 

VenomX is Aluminum flight rail. Ten Point did some cut outs on the flightrail to make the Xbow lighter at 6.9lbs. I'm curious how Barnett Hyper Raptor 425 is tipping the scales at 6.9lbs. The sight device is quite interesting with a zoom button. We'll know soon enough if there is a Halo legacy connection to the BUK sight device. Cams are obviously different too.

 

Difference in weight looks to be slight of hand. 410 was weighed with ccd. 425 with rcd my guess.

 

I have the revised Raptor 410. 140 shots and a dead deer later .....all is good.

 

Buk OPS you all thoughts about the 2024 sight device on Hypr RaptorBCS. It's out there if you want to research.

BUK OPS - Trademark Details
Statements
Goods and Services
Game cameras; trail cameras; binoculars; monoculars; rangefinders; optical or telescopic lens sights; spotting scopes; night vision game cameras; night vision scopes; night vision monoculars; thermal imaging game cameras; thermal imaging scopes; thermal imaging monoculars

 

Buk OPS you all thoughts about the 2024 sight device on Hypr RaptorBCS. It's out there if you want to research.

BUK OPS - Trademark Details
Statements
Goods and Services
Game cameras; trail cameras; binoculars; monoculars; rangefinders; optical or telescopic lens sights; spotting scopes; night vision game cameras; night vision scopes; night vision monoculars; thermal imaging game cameras; thermal imaging scopes; thermal imaging monoculars

Yeah, so was Halo but it never actually materialized. (And it also first appeared on a Barnett)

 

Here is a link to the new Raptor BCX with the new scope packages. It explains what the new scope is.

 

We’ll know more soon. Himmmmm, BUK OPS scope is interesting play extending low light hunts. Curious how that will be accepted. Halo returns. Let’s see if it’s ready for prime time. Obviously new cams. I bet all the minor upgrades are all Farm Deer influences. If they are this will be one impressive bow. My Gen1 Hyper Raptor is now at Shot 172 and working perfectly.

 

 

Would've been nice if they had mentioned the fact that the original Hyper Raptor had some problems that were corrected on this model. That is one slick ass looking xbow!

 

Absolutely different cam build vs Gen1 Hyper Raptor.

 

I like what I’m seeing so far. If this 1 has the issues worked out I’m gonna be hunting with it next fall. Anyone know when they’ll be available?

 

Mine 410 with 180 shots.

 

Thanks for sharing.
Happy to hear things are working out for you.
Take care.

 

As per the picture in Post #1, I have not figured out why they would name the Barnett
Hyper Raptor a BCX. Barnett has had a BCX manufactured in 2013 era as Barnett Buck
Commander BCXtreme 365. This is a very high quality, accurate crossbow once one
swapped out the torsion springs in the trigger box that control the latches to ones that
were not as brittle.

Wishing you all the best.
Take care.

 

Those of you tinkering with the HR410 have done some really fine work.
Most recently I have completed some in-depth work on woven carbon shafts in various weights to solve some inaccuracy issues with bows 440 FPS and up supplied with 400ish weight arrows. My findings proved that a 1:1 ratio of FPS to GPI is the gold standard. When folks invest in the newer HR be sure to match the arrow weight to the speed rating, or greater, and you will be extremely pleased with the results.

Some like to shoot 400 or less arrows out of the HR410 chasing the speed limit. First, sub 410 arrows are hard on the bow itself due to the fact you are leaving energy in the bow rather applying the energy in the arrow. Choose an arrow with a 160-180 spine and a total build of at least the FPS rating plus 3%. Your accuracy will improve and the bow will shoot much smoother. Avoid adding tip weight to get to the weight. Doing this only causes increased shaft column buckle thus reducing accuracy. Concentrate on shaft GPI with 110 inserts, 100/125 tip, vane weight and nock weight relative to your desired shaft length to get to the desired weight.

Can you shoot "heavy" (high GPI) arrows; 450,460,,,,,,? Absolutely. Keeping in mind the affect on FPS. Heavy arrows, providing they are built in balance (correct FOC) will increase accuracy and make the bow shoot even smoother but limit extended range of the bow. 70,80,90, 100 yards would require massive hold over.

A 10.4 GPI shaft with 160 spine @ 18": 187.2
insert: 110
vanes: 20
nock: 12
tip: 125
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454.2 total would be perfect for the HR 430. Provide a smooth shot and deadly accurate if indexed.

All the great work everyone has done to make the HR 410 more reliable is fantastic effort. Let us not forget after all this great work that the projectile needs to be right for the bow shot out of.
FD

 

All of the arrows I have shot in the last 5 years out of my TenPoints have been in the area of 430 to 500 gr. I find it very hard to stay under that weight unless you go to great lengths to find 270 gr arrows (without point) which I will never use.
I am currently using 430 to 475. I used a 500 gr arrow to shoot my Eland in South Africa and it proved to be great medicine for such a large critter. I don't fuss over 25 gr anymore. The loss of FPS is largely psychological rather than practical.

 

All of the arrows I have shot in the last 5 years out of my TenPoints have been in the area of 430 to 500 gr. I find it very hard to stay under that weight unless you go to great lengths to find 270 gr arrows (without point) which I will never use.
I am currently using 430 to 475. I used a 500 gr arrow to shoot my Eland in South Africa and it proved to be great medicine for such a large critter. I don't fuss over 25 gr anymore. The loss of FPS is largely psychological rather than practical.

I've lost count on how many times being asked; "What does that arrow chrono?" Fact of the matter, I could care less. I'm capable of calculating FPS however I could care less how fast I'm going, I'm looking for accuracy. When manufactures provide arrows that are way low on weight to either meet the stated speed or because this is what's in inventory, that creates many of the "My bow don't shoot accurately" postings.

I shoot out to 100 yards. Not for my ego but rather honing in on the equipment. Finding what works and what does not. I feel the arrow technology is just now catching up to the speed of the bows after lessons learned that with the ever growing speed, the arrow needs to follow.

When I can do this at 100 yards with a 470 total weight, screw the speed.

 

I agree with the above 2 statements. I personally do not shoot over 30yds and target shoot over that, but......I do expect the arrow to hit exactly where the cross hair is. At that range it doesn't take very long to go from point A to point B. I've never had a deer jump the string.