Be careful fellas! Was shooting these yesterday sighting in my new Sirius arrows so I could hunt this cold front and had a wild arrow and this is what I seen at the target! Brand new with about 20 shots on that arrow! It peeled the almost non existent ledge that the arrow seats against and pressed it in perfectly and the string made a little contact to the arrow rendering it useless, I continued shooting with the factory knocks and then serving broke. Serving was already frayed but this sent it over the edge in a few more shots! Now I need to have my serving fixed and I'm going to miss my date with buster ( big 3 yr old 155-10 point)on this cold front!