Still lovin both of mine 🙂

 

Thank you Sir 😁

 

Well my GS13 big money spending friend. I think I sold you one of these Garmin a year or so ago and you didn't keep it long. But I can't lie I loved the solid build of the Garmin. I liked the color changes available. The mount was way stronger than the Burris and the shorter length was great. But the part that always scared me was if it runs out of battery you have no optic...where that Burris bowling pin still has a 20 yard sight rain or shine. (But the Burris does eat those batteries pretty fast)
About a year ago Vance Outdoors cleared out all there Garmin crossbow scopes for 1100 a piece new in box. I asked the salesman why so cheap? He said we aren't carrying them anymore. So I said why? He said they were well made. Not a big problem with them breaking etc. it's just no one wanted to buy them. Their price point is just too high.
Well good luck on your search.

 

Well my GS13 big money spending friend. I think I sold you one of these Garmin a year or so ago and you didn't keep it long. But I can't lie I loved the solid build of the Garmin. I liked the color changes available. The mount was way stronger than the Burris and the shorter length was great. But the part that always scared me was if it runs out of battery you have no optic...where that Burris bowling pin still has a 20 yard sight rain or shine. (But the Burris does eat those batteries pretty fast)
About a year ago Vance Outdoors cleared out all there Garmin crossbow scopes for 1100 a piece new in box. I asked the salesman why so cheap? He said we aren't carrying them anymore. So I said why? He said they were well made. Not a big problem with them breaking etc. it's just no one wanted to buy them. Their price point is just too high.
Well good luck on your search.

You did, my big spending retired government employee friend ..👀🤪😂😂.
I did not give it a fair shake...I've got a property I'm hunting for the 3rd year in a row that has many fields...and either this or the Burris may come in handy...

 

I've had 2 since they came out. They are excellent!!!

 

I'm guessing a lot more in favor of the Buris Oracle vs the Garmin ..

 

I have 2 working on 3 and could not imagine fartin around with some other electroptics at this point.
Big learning curve, heavy and over priced but simply amazing for a hunting sight.
This will be season 3 on them for me.

 

Bought one last year and hunted with it. Just awesome imo. Like a cheat code. Had a buck come running in fast and I was able to range it running through trees at 41y and smoke it when it got into an opening. Haven't had any glitches. The only thing that p*sses me off is I can't find (or they don't make) flip up caps for it. The caps that come with it are not quiet and too cumbersome to hunt with.

 

i would still argue its the best crossbow sight to ever come along.
Maybe not if you need to film your hunt or want to target shoot at 100 yrds.
It is purposely designed for a crossbow and normal crossbow ranges easily to 80 yrds.
I have had zero issues in the 2 years i have used them.
optically decent and for deer on the move it amazing to be able to quickly range while looking through the optic.
Using it with out the wired remote....forget it.
Only down sides are a leaning curve to set it up, weight & cost.
Not having a zoom has been quite meaningless in real hunting scenario's.
3.5 x is about perfect for in the woods hunting. These units have been bomb proof SO FAR.

 

How are the red reticles on the X1i? Can you see them well in low light? I have the A1i Pro on my compound and I really like the green reticle over the red. Wish I could use the A1i on a crossbow...just made a post asking if this is possible...anybody tried? I have a picatinney connector from Hoyt but I cannot find a way to mount it to the rail system on the Viper S415...

If I can't mount the A1i Pro on a crossbow then I'm back to choosing between the X1i and the Burris...

 

I use the green on the x1i. Personal preference. I don't like the red.

 

I’m too curious about last light situations

 

I love mine too, but the biggest downfall is last light. Open field it will get you to legal shooting time, but in heavy tree cover no way. The glass is great in low light in this situation but minute the optics come on in lowest setting red, it washes out. There is no way to aim precisely. I have had multiple times on non shooters to see and it’s impossible. I am talking heavy woods and 20-25 minutes after official sunset.

Never had same problem on traditional scopes in same situation.

To that point, I am taking it off my 505 since it shoots so flat, and going to a vortex instead. I will use it on one of my other bows instead and probably only on more open woods and ag fields. I have had it since it first came out
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... The glass is great in low light in this situation but minute the optics come on in lowest setting red, it washes out. There is no way to aim precisely. I have had multiple times on non shooters to see and it’s impossible. I am talking heavy woods and 20-25 minutes after official sunset...

Elk, I don't know if yer aware of it, but you can eliminate the "washout" when the optic comes on in low lite by pressin yer center button (of the 3) repeatedly until it's dim enuf to see the image thru the scope. 😀.
In contrast, if the day is real brite anya need yer dot briter, repeatedly pressin the most forward button will briten it in steps until it's whereya want it. Be a shame to hafta go to a lesser scope when this is so easy to overcome.
I'm a tech stupe an everything does more than I want. If I had my way, this scope would have WAAAAAY less features. Range an reticle is about all I want, I'm not sophisticated enuf to appreciate most of the incredible other stuff it does. I have my scope programmed to only show the dot reticle an range distance an am happy with it dumbed down. 😊

 

I have it set to automatically dim down to lowest setting. And I too only have the dot and yardage nothing else to clutter up sight. But the screen itself when it comes on still washes out. Try it next time you sit, look through the garmin at last light and you can see perfect, then hit the range button and it will washout even at most dim there is always a haze

 

I'll have a look at that, but when I get "washout", tappin that center (of the row of 3) button, taps the briteness down to nothin. Hafta wait til dark to check I guess 😀
Edit: I'm usin a green dot, maybe that's the difference?

 

Green dot actually is brightest dot, that’s why they have the auto red for low light

 

I updated the OS software to version 5.60 at the end of August, maybe that's the difference? 🤔

 

I’d be curious to find out if that update makes the difference in yours being dim for low light. I either hunt wide open food plot or middle of the swamp.

 

i would agree a simpler version would be welcome with blue tooth to your phone to make adjustment's with out the need to get down on the scope.

They should also have the brightness set in the menu and then the auto brightness work from that set point.

as ide form that if you take the time to manually validate your aim points the accuracy is superb.

The more time spent with a bow thats shot in and no wind the more the accuracy goes up.

 

I checked when I sat tonight, it’s the same 5.6.

I sat heavy wooded tonight, and at around 25 minutes after sunset was last time I could aim at a branch at 25 yards. After that it was getting washed out too much for my comfort to pinpoint exact spot. I could easily see branch through glass prior to turning on the aim.

Honestly I don’t like shooting that late anyway though (our legal time is 30 minutes after sunset)

 

Sunset here was @ 6:42. I went outside @ 7:12 an checked. I live in the woods but not deep dark woods an was OK, but at 7:32 I saw what @Ironelk Was talkin about, so I got into the display menu an changed some things. My "auto display color" was turned off, so I turned it on an changed colors to red, but red is too dark for my eyes to see good so I went back to the way it was. So now I figure difference in shooter's eyesight an depth of woods (ambient light) could account for the differences. IDK.
A Xero tech at Garmin told me they might have as many as 10 software revisions a year, so if the display washin out is a problem, I'm thinkin maybe they could fix it; haveya talked to em about it?

 

Does anyone who uses the Garmin Xero also use the Tenpoint Halo case?

 

It fits perfectly fine with the garmin