[FatManInaCamoSuit]

Not his first xbow and wants more speed.

Lol, his best bet would be to start from the top down then.

 

[FatManInaCamoSuit]

A custom 430 X and it matters. His triggers alone make a difference.

I bookmarked this post so I'd remember it...gonna shoot a 3 shot group at 60yds with my Wrath 430X when I get a chance so I can see how it does. It doesnt have a trigger job but I think I can squeeze the spongyness out of the trigger in order to make 3 good shots.

 

[FatManInaCamoSuit]

The link below contains a list of speeds I got from a Logix 435 with a Garmin chrono before @Rakkin6 bought it from me. It should give you a rough estimate of what to expect from it if you go that route.

Logix 435 Speed Test

 

[FatManInaCamoSuit]

Very true what @Huntersthompson said. You'd be spending upwards of $2,000 to get a bow that actually shoots 430fps with a 400gr or heavier arrow. The Logix 435 is a solid bow...only issues I've seen or heard of is with the one with the built in crank. The Centerpoint Wrath 430 and 430X are both great bows. However, none of those are gonna hit 430fps. To be honest, you dont need a bow that shoots that fast to reach out and touch a deer at 60yds. You just need one that is accurate enough to shoot that far. Excaliburs are simple but very accurate. The Logix 435 is very accurate. I dont know if I'd trust the accuracy of a Centerpoint to reach out at that distance but it might. The Barnett Hyper Raptor probably will but she likes to chew up strings and cables. I would focus more on reliability and accuracy to get out to 60yds unless you're prepared to drop $$$$.