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Side by side comparison of specs including all dimensions

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#1 ·
Is there anyplace to do a side by side comparison of the 2022 Excalibur bows? I went to their site and I couldn’t find basic info on the limb width of the micro 340 TD. Is the required draw force listed , the force required with the rope cocker ? Anybody recommend an expert Excalibur dealer in Maryland or Southern PA? I think I’ll avoid the bows rated over 400 fps on my next bow.
 
#7 ·
I love LAS. But the expertise in particular brands, with all the crossbows variety nowadays, all depends on who you get. Even on slow days there may b3 a dozen customers waiting on th3 next available person. They have a few of each but overall they do not stock much excalibur. I think they had two when I was up last time. That’s why I’m looking for a more local shop with lots of excalibur knowledge and stocked bows. LAS is 90 minutes
 
#18 · (Edited)
When Jon Teater did an independent test with the Micro Suppressor, he got a draw weight of #347. The Assassin 420 was in the 370 s. For some reason, I don’t trust published draw weights. My hybrid shoots the same trajectory at the range as my 355 SS, and the draw weight is 345#.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Unfortunately I personally think losing the GRZ2 and G340 from the Excal range for 2022 must also have lost potential customers that will only want a crossbows you can cock without a crank unit

I hope the Mag Air is in reality roughly the same as a 308 short to rope cock and not as per spec " 2 pounds less then a Mag 340 ",,,,,if that's a spec typo then they need to address it immediately

Mag Air listed spec of 134 lbs draw effort = 268 lbs limb tension
A Mag 340 is listed at 270 lbs limb tension ,,,,
( 2 pounds difference between the two crossbows can't be right ) , or is the spec for the new Mag Air the true cocking force and the Mag / Axe 340 spec far more in reality ?

Anyways with 2022 good bye easy cocking Matrix models ,,,,,🙁
 
#23 ·
Unfortunately I personally think losing the GRZ2 and G340 from the Excal range for 2022 must also have lost potential customers that will only want a crossbows you can cock without a crank unit

I hope the Mag Air is in reality roughly the same as a 308 short to rope cock and not as per spec " 6 pounds less then a Mag 340 ",,,,,if that's a spec typo then they need to address it immediately

Mag Air listed spec of 134 lbs draw effort = 264 lbs limb tension
A Mag 340 is listed at 270 lbs limb tension ,,,,
( 6 pounds difference between the two crossbows can't be right ) , or is the spec for the new Mag Air the true cocking force and the Mag / Axe 340 spec far more in reality ?

Anyways with 2022 good bye easy cocking Matrix models ,,,,,🙁
Looks like Excalibur choosen to go with "Micro" strategy into the future
I own BD330. One guy I know purchased Micro 360TD, the cocking effort compared to BD330 was much more difficult. Especially in the end, last 3 inches.. Insane resistance from limbs.
 
#24 · (Edited)
I do love the 375 fps I get out of my TP Stealth nxt, but I hardly shoot at alerted deer so I believe anything over 325 is over kill, pun intended. I like the idea of a quick attach cranker mechanism like Excalibur offers , just in case, and I know they need to chase the speed freaks or lose a huge market share. Short limbs and speeds >400 fps dominate the market. But it seems they should leave at least one bow , a top of the line accessory equipped model, in the 300-325 fps range that’s manageable to rope cock since many of us moved to crossbows due to shoulder or elbow or back problems, MANY. I guess they figure we’ll just migrate onto cranker models. I still plan to find an Excalibur. I imagine many will be traded in as people transition for more speed. Hopefully they won’t leave their largest customer base with no options. My shots are < 40 yards and 280fps was adequate for pass throughs on most deer since my first golden eagle compound beast of a bow at 65 pounds with marginal let off.
 
#25 ·
You can always wait and look for a good used Matrix 330 or 355. As the new fast and small lust compels folks to get rid of perfectly good crossbows to try the latest and greatest, some nice stuff should be available at good prices. It is a shame Excal has dropped Matrix line, but I suppose they just weren’t selling enough to make it worth the effort. :(
 
#27 ·
when i got my micro 340td this last fall, i was surprised at the effort it took. having lifted weights all my life, my first instinct was to try to cock it in a “bent over row” motion = wrong answer. i soon figured out to use my back and legs in a fashion very similar to “good mornings”

it went from being more than i could do, to not overly bad. it isnt something i want to do 20 times…and it is tricky in a tree. the type motion you use makes all the difference. i do envision a cocking devise in my future for use in the stand.
 
#29 ·
when i got my micro 340td this last fall, i was surprised at the effort it took. having lifted weights all my life, my first instinct was to try to cock it in a “bent over row” motion = wrong answer. i soon figured out to use my back and legs in a fashion very similar to “good mornings”

it went from being more than i could do, to not overly bad. it isnt something i want to do 20 times…and it is tricky in a tree. the type motion you use makes all the difference. i do envision a cocking devise in my future for use in the stand.
Certainly enjoyed the video. (y) While I can’t provide the same, I find dead lifts and straight leg dead lifts to be even more comparable to the cocking motion. It is indeed mostly legs, butt, lower back, and only minor help from the shoulders. Having the rope adjusted for your body is very important.