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String issues with Buck commander

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#1 ·
Well it finally happened...I'm having issues with my servings on my buck commander slipping with my cranking device..i even had it reserved and it seperated after 2 shots...its getting annoying...this is the second string in 4 months...I'm thinking about replacing it with a FirstString string...its servings is braided and suppose to be the best, onlything is my turkey season starts in a week and may have to go with the oem one on there now...anybody had any experiences with this type of string...cause this issue is getting me mad..and i need something thats reliable..so i need a strong string fast...Please Help!!! Thunderbolt
 
#2 ·
Sorry to say thunderbolt but all serving will become loose over time. Even the best made strings are not exempt from this. I just keep sliding it back to the center when need be and wax the hell out of it with bees wax, just keep the bees wax out of the center of the string as it may make your trigger stodgy.
 
#3 ·
Here is a simple way of sliding the serving without harming the string using vertical bow arrow nocks.
 

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#4 ·
Thunderbolt,
Hey man, you have First Strings on Buck Commanders.
I usually split the string, put the tail between the strands, then wrap over it about 5/8 of an inch. Continue to wrap the serving until you are 5/8" from the end of the total length. This is were you need (2) loops to finish. (1) loop will split the string, and the other will be wrapped in the serving to pull the tail threw. Here is how it works. Place the one loop on the string with the knot of the loop on the pre-wrapped serving. Serve over the first loop for the remainder of the total serving length. Once you have completed the final length of center serving wrap, you will need to place the tail of the center serving into the second loop that is splitting the string. You will pull the tail thru the string, then place the tail in the loop of loop #1. This will pull the tail back thru the wrap of the end of the center serving. Take a pair of plyers, and pull each end of the center serving tight. Cut the tails to leave about 1/4" of tail. Melt this with a lighter to leave a large ball of melted serving. This knot length (5/8"), and the large knot with each tail splitting the string will help prevent serving seperation.
Here is a secret, rub the area to be served with a cloth first. No wax at this time. set the loop to split the string to the finishing end prior to wrapping. You also need to wrap your serving in the opposite direction of the twist in the string when you start to serve. This will keep the serving tight, and tight servings and knots, do not slip. Take your time. The more cation you use during prep will pay off. When you are done, wax it!!
 
#5 ·
thunderbolt,

Received your PM. As Hoss mentioned above, the string is a First String on the BC. I had my original serving last 697 shots before needing to be replaced. Best life I ever had from any center serving on any crosbow. I reserved it at that time with Halo. Have had no issues since, but only has a bit over 250 shots on it.

Serving a crossbow must be done TIGHT. Most bow shops don't have a clue as to how tight is needed.

Here's a trick I just tried, read on a vetical site. Now I haven't tried this on any crossbow, yet, but have done it on a vertical and it's holding up very well.

Coat the serving area with liquid super glue and rub it in with a piece of leather until nearly cured, wipe off excess. Don't allow super glue to drip off serving or cause drops. This is claimed to allow the servings to last the life of the string on verticals, and prevent separating. Comes from a very reliable source. Claims to have been doing this for years with out ill effect.
 
#6 ·
I don't know if super glue soaked into a string is to good of an idea. The string fibers slide back and forth on themselves, I think this would prevent this and cause them to cut one another. We wax strings and rub melt the wax into the fibers to lubricate the fibers to protect them from each other. Cyanolite glue is some pretty hard stuff when cured and kinda sharp as well. I understand the fella is talking about keeping it on the serving but it wicks so well it will end up in the main string fibers. It could be the best thing going but sounds scary to me. I would send Boo a message on the advice you found and see what he has to say on the super glue thing.
 
#7 ·
semperfi,

FWIW

I tried this with a used string. The servings had separated (and some were frayed badly, to the point where some fibers of the serving were broken) so I pushed them back in place and coated with super glue as I didn't have time to reserve then. Shot the bow for around 500 shots, then had time to reserve. The servings did stay put after the glue job. It was a bit more difficult to remove the serving, but the super glue DID NOT fully penetrate the serving and get to the string itself,just held the serving together.

I have used super glue to seal tied on nock points, seal burned end tags and such in the past with great results. Never had the glue get to the string material.

I just passed this info on, I have tried it, and am satisfied with the results. If you would like to read the original thread, PM me and I'll get you there.
 
#8 ·
For what its worth, Back in the day before the Crossbow was my hunting bow, I used the super glue as described by vaguru on two bows, worked very well,
First tried it while on a hunting trip and found the serving was separating. Used as a temporary fix ,I continued to shoot the Bow several hundred shots before getting new strings.Have not used the super glue on any of my crossbow servings as they have never been a problem.
 
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#9 ·
Thankyou for all your responces....I'm having troubles with the stock Barnet strings and its just not overtime...2 new strings since Dec 2010..after a few shots..I've done the nock thing and glued the string today..and shot it and it was ok...I ordered 2 new Firststrings and i'm hopeing this will solve my problem and i'm sure it will with the braided serving..and i know all servings will come loose after time...but not after a few shots and i did rubberize my cranking device with rubber dip..so we'll see what happens..Thunderbolt
 
#11 ·
Well i've finally given up on barnett strings..tonight i shot hopeing the servings would last threw this turkey season, cause i really wanted to harvest a gobbler with it this season...so i took 5 shots tonight and the serving went haywire...and i'm mad...i took it in the house and took the limbs off the reciever and it can sit there till the fast strings get here in 1 to 2 weeks..any farther problems and this xbow is out the door...I'm tired of having problems and its BS and i'm pretty depress'd about this bow at the moment and am not typeing what,i really want to say about this string issue and the bow's only 4 months old...I don't understand...Thunderbolt
 
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#12 ·
Well i've finally given up on barnett strings..tonight i shot hopeing the servings would last threw this turkey season, cause i really wanted to harvest a gobbler with it this season...so i took 5 shots tonight and the serving went haywire...and i'm mad...i took it in the house and took the limbs off the reciever and it can sit there till the fast strings get here in 1 to 2 weeks..any farther problems and this xbow is out the door...I'm tired of having problems and its BS and i'm pretty depress'd about this bow at the moment and am not typeing what,i really want to say about this string issue and the bow's only 4 months old...I don't understand...Thunderbolt
The problem might be the string retainer hooks. If there are any abrasive edges it will eat
servings.
Hank
 
#13 ·
thunderbolt,

I would love to hel you out here. I know where Mongomery County in Pa is, but I don't have the time to get up there. If you can drive down to central Va, I'll personally serve your strings and check out your bow, adjust as needed.

Depending exactly where you are, it would be around a 4-5 hour drive each way.

Best I can do at this time.
 
#14 ·
thunderbolt,

I would love to hel you out here. I know where Mongomery County in Pa is, but I don't have the time to get up there. If you can drive down to central Va, I'll personally serve your strings and check out your bow, adjust as needed.

Depending exactly where you are, it would be around a 4-5 hour drive each way.

Best I can do at this time.
Thanks for the offer..I'm going to wait out the firststrings and see how they make out...I'll just take the benelli blackEagle out instead of the xbow or maybe i'll get a chance after the bow is setup thanks Thunderbolt
 
#15 ·
Well i recieved an email tonight, saying strings are being shipped out...so maybe i won't have to wait 2 weeks for strings....maybe their be here by thursday and i can have them put on and have the xbow sighted in on Friday..its cutting it close ,but i think it can happen for opening morning....Thunderbolt
 
#16 ·
Well i recieved the strings today and last night,i'll filed down the sharp edges on my cranking device and dip'd it in rubberize dip..i'm having the string put on tonight and we'll go from there....I'll let yous know how i make out..Thunderbolt
 
#17 ·
Well tonight.i shot with the new string and it worked out pretty good, i took about 12 shots and the POI was dead on, did'nt have to click the scope at all...I was shooting my Rage Broadheads and they were dead on...anyways between fileing the out edge on my cranking device and dipping the device, i think i've finally fixed the problem and it worked out great so far,i'll continue to watch it, i did want to share a picture of the device that i dipped into rubber solution..some of yous asked so here it is...it drys fully after 24 hours and it's pretty tough, you can coat it every half hour till you have the thickness that you want...it's the same stuff you'd dip your tool handles and tools into..works great...Thunderbolt

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#18 ·
I'm Having the same problem with my Buck Commander. I told the tech from Barnett and she said she had never heard of it happaning before.It's not fraying but it's just a matter of time i'm thinking.Serving is doing that where the hooks for the cranking device' not where the trigger or safty hooks the string.I really like my Buck Commander and don't want the string to snap and blow a limb..
 
#19 ·
I'm Having the same problem with my Buck Commander. I told the tech from Barnett and she said she had never heard of it happaning before.It's not fraying but it's just a matter of time i'm thinking.Serving is doing that where the hooks for the cranking device' not where the trigger or safty hooks the string.I really like my Buck Commander and don't want the string to snap and blow a limb..
Bernie its not going to blow apart unless the string underneath gets damaged..I'd do what i did...file lightly on the edges(Outer edge was my problem)and flatten the edges lightly, makes sure there's no purrs after your done..you want the string to lay flat on the cranking device not dig into..I've found that it was always the outer edges of the device that was giving me the problem...I also bought Plastic Dip made by Performix and dipped the device into it giving it a rubber coating..so far its working, also as we all know strings will seperate and wear,so wax it lot and the serving also...I replaced my string with a FirstString which was a braided string and some guys said that's what barnett puts on these bows...but i looked at barnetts and first string and they were very different to me..but right now everything is working which i did and i have about 25 shots on the string and no seperation.Thunderbolt