[godisgood@1]

I wonder if you can use the limb for the adder.

 

[Paulypauly]

Still waiting to read a report from someone who has actually used one of these RX Adders. There are limitations to importing certain crossbows into Canada. Pistol-style ones cannot be imported. Actually specified in govt. regs. We tried to import one some years ago for a film project and it was seized by Canadian Customs. That's why I'm leery about trying to bring in the Adder without hearing of someone who has done it.

I purchased the adder crossbow about 8 months ago and have to say it’s the coolest. It’s definitely NOT for children as it packs a good enough punch to take down a deer. I had to build a special target for practice because a regular archery target allowed the arrows to penetrate to deep which messed up the fletch. 50 layers of t-shirt material in a mesh seed bag works well and the arrows come right out. Care needs to be taken when cocking to make sure the pump lever goes all the way forward. I was a bit short once and the string didn’t position properly causing a miss fire which destroyed the carbon bolt and the serving on the string. Gave me a chance to try restringing with the included 2nd string and it worked like a breeze. I purchased mine from www.gogun.co in California and took a couple months for the overseas container to arrive the get shipped across US to my location. I build a hard shell gun style case for mine so I could store safely and keep track of everything. These adders are really popular and I’ve noticed the price has gone up quite a bit since I bought mine. The bolts ARE special and from my research don’t try the eBay or Amazon ones because they will mess up and you don’t want to take the chance. You can make your own or have a friend do it for you but take care with sizes and measurements. Sorry to be long winded but I’m impressed with the crossbow.

 

[Lwee]

Still waiting to read a report from someone who has actually used one of these RX Adders. There are limitations to importing certain crossbows into Canada. Pistol-style ones cannot be imported. Actually specified in govt. regs. We tried to import one some years ago for a film project and it was seized by Canadian Customs. That's why I'm leery about trying to bring in the Adder without hearing of someone who has done it.

Hi,
I'm an airgun enthusiast with a penchant for crossbows from Canada. I have also been hunting down a Cobra for almost 3 years now. Only places willing to sell and ship I found so far are Gogun and a seller in France. The issue is that shipping and customs is about the price of the crossbow itself hence why I'm still stalling and looking locally.

As for "pistol crossbows" being illegal in Canada, its not entirely correct. The law only stipulates that a crossbow:
1. shorter than 19"
2. and/or that can be operated by one hand
... is considered illegal (prohibited weapon 3 to 10 in a fed pen). In short basically those shady Wish chinese crossbows and handgun sized gas-powered arrow launchers like the Rancheros...

I own a few "BearX / Bolt / Redback / Hellhawk / etc...", they're sold in about every outdoors, camping, hunting and fishing store in my province and would all logically fall in the "pistol crossbow" yet I can assure you they're legal, so is the Cobra. If you still have doubt search the net for the Coldsteel Cheapshot... plenty of those for sell on Canadian online stores... if the Coldsteel is legal the Cobra is definetly and 100% legal in Canada.

Based on my past experiences ordering overseas for "various hobby related" items heres what happened to your Cobra a while back: the CBSA (canadian border agents) are overzealous dicks who VERY OFTEN arbitrarily decide to return to seller, seize, confiscate or destroy items that are legal in nature, legally imported and legally paid for.... and they will do it on a whim, "because it looks scary/ dangerous" or just because they're lazy fcks that apparently disregard laws and do as they please.

Anyways, if anyone know where I could get my hands on one in North America that would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

 

[wb_hunter]

If you still have doubt search the net for the Coldsteel Cheapshot... plenty of those for sell on Canadian online stores... if the Coldsteel is legal the Cobra is definetly and 100% legal in Canada.

If I am not mistaken, the Coldsteel Cheapshot is in fact a Cobra - only with a different branding, different color, and 130# limbs. "EK Archery" is just a brand as well, mainly in use here in Europe.
In fact, both are manufactured by PoeLang in Taiwan.
I bought a Cobra last year, and made it into a "Cheapshot" with available upgrades - the 130# limb and the buttstock.
Not the "Adder", though. This is just an (relatively expensive) upgrade of a Cobra for faster shooting I do not need.

 

[TescoBag]

If I am not mistaken, the Coldsteel Cheapshot is in fact a Cobra - only with a different branding, different color, and 130# limbs. "EK Archery" is just a brand as well, mainly in use here in Europe.
In fact, both are manufactured by PoeLang in Taiwan.
I bought a Cobra last year, and made it into a "Cheapshot" with available upgrades - the 130# limb and the buttstock.
Not the "Adder", though. This is just an (relatively expensive) upgrade of a Cobra for faster shooting I do not need.

The coldsteel cheapshot is similar, but not the same. There is no magazine and there are extra parts required to fit the magazine. The cheapshot can be upgraded to fit the magazine of the cobra, but not easily.

 

[wb_hunter]

The coldsteel cheapshot is similar, but not the same. There is no magazine and there are extra parts required to fit the magazine.

I think you are mixing up a few things.
I was not talking about the "Adder" in my post. Nor did Lwee ask about it specifically.
The EK Cobra is no "Adder", and certainly has no magazine.

 

[Lwee]

Thank you @wb_hunter .
My point is that according to the Canadian Criminal Code (and trust me, I get/have to check that section fairly often) there is nothing preventing the Cobra from being imported, sold, purchased and used in Canada and as far as I know the Adder either.

...and what I mentionned about customs agents interpreting or literally disregarding the actual laws is not an urban legend either. In my case their M.O. lately is (and keep in mind I'm talking legal items I can back the legality of and right to own with documentation):
Receive said item and return it to the seller without notifying either party.
In the meantime you receive no tracking updates, it stays on "Shipment submitted to border agents for review" for weeks...
You call Canada Post or courier, they refer you to the CBSA... you call there they tell you to wait a little longer, they can't do anything, should release soon..
Days go by then BOOM! You get a tracking update! ...but wait what? Its back in its originating country?!?!?! Sure enough the seller contacts you to let you know that in the best of cases they only damaged the original boxing, at worst they sent it back utterly fcked.
Sometimes you receive a letter giving you the option to contest their decision... like a month too late when the item is either trashed or long gone, your relation with the store you did business soured and the whole weight of going thru that process entirely on you....
Democracy, am I right?

 

[fly]

Thank you @wb_hunter .
My point is that according to the Canadian Criminal Code (and trust me, I get/have to check that section fairly often) there is nothing preventing the Cobra from being imported, sold, purchased and used in Canada and as far as I know the Adder either.

...and what I mentionned about customs agents interpreting or literally disregarding the actual laws is not an urban legend either. In my case their M.O. lately is (and keep in mind I'm talking legal items I can back the legality of and right to own with documentation):
Receive said item and return it to the seller without notifying either party.
In the meantime you receive no tracking updates, it stays on "Shipment submitted to border agents for review" for weeks...
You call Canada Post or courier, they refer you to the CBSA... you call there they tell you to wait a little longer, they can't do anything, should release soon..
Days go by then BOOM! You get a tracking update! ...but wait what? Its back in its originating country?!?!?! Sure enough the seller contacts you to let you know that in the best of cases they only damaged the original boxing, at worst they sent it back utterly fcked.
Sometimes you receive a letter giving you the option to contest their decision... like a month too late when the item is either trashed or long gone, your relation with the store you did business soured and the whole weight of going thru that process entirely on you....
Democracy, am I right?

they did quite good job demonising xbows in your country, only needed one shooting and massive campaing in msm
i would try to convince importer to do the job for you, like talk to local archery shop and ask em to order few pieces

 

[wb_hunter]

...and what I mentionned about customs agents interpreting or literally disregarding the actual laws is not an urban legend either. ...

Ah, I understand.
This seems a different problem alltogether ...

Democracy, am I right?

You just need to believe the government (and it's custom agents) do your bidding because you elected them - than it's democracy ...
I think I don't need to mark this as sarcasm

 

[wb_hunter]

Finally got a chrono yesterday, and testing the speed of my Cobra was one of the first items on my list.
With my selfmade bolts (about 223...225 grain), I measured 233fps. Which gives me about 26.5 ft-lbf.
One measured with 240fps, but it turned out to be only 205 grain. With the same length, nock and tip, the difference is the shaft. I used all kind of spent vertical bow arrow shafts for this bolts, and this was a lighter one ...

 

[fly]

Finally got a chrono yesterday, and testing the speed of my Cobra was one of the first items on my list.
With my selfmade bolts (about 223...225 grain), I measured 233fps. Which gives me about 26.5 ft-lbf.
One measured with 240fps, but it turned out to be only 205 grain. With the same length, nock and tip, the difference is the shaft. I used all kind of spent vertical bow arrow shafts for this bolts, and this was a lighter one ...

just found video of shooting 6000foot pounds, thats an face lifting expirience in many ways

(shots after 20mins)

 

[wb_hunter]

I haven't seen an elephant or rhino here lately, and for squirrels and rabbits this gun seems a bit overkill.
But who knows, there is that climate change - either those elephants, or polar bears ...

 

[fly]

I haven't seen an elephant or rhino here lately, and for squirrels and rabbits this gun seems a bit overkill.
But who knows, there is that climate change - either those elephants, or polar bears ...

ive seen mosquitos double or triple they size in last few decades... just maybe that kind of gun would come handy

 

[wb_hunter]

ive seen mosquitos double or triple they size in last few decades...

Move further south ...
Honestly, some here around at swampy places, but nothing compared to the African jungle or the Russian and Finnish tundra.

 

[wb_hunter]

Not new, but this thread seems most appropriate ...
Visiting my parents with their huge backyard over Christmas, I was able to shoot some of my crossbows again without neighbours raising their eyebrows.
One thing I did was testing the Cobra for distance. Using my self-made bolts (about 245gn), I get speeds in the low 200's, which usually results in distances of 250...300 yard.
Shooting 4 bolts at about 45° angle (instinctive, not measured) I got distances between 265m and 285m, translating to roughly 300 yard. Not really unexpected.
The shot distances were measured with a rangefinder.
What surprised me was the stable flight, despite of some stronger gusts of wind.
When doing the same with a vertical bow, there is usually quite some wobble over the first 50 yards.

I also tried the "integrated" iron sight over larger distances, which is 10 ... 20 yards for this crossbow.
The results were mixed, though.
Not that I am unable to shoot with an iron sight, but the Cobra one is a bit problematic - especially the part functioning as "bead".
Here a photo:

The "red dot" functioning as bead is translucent plastic, in a rather fat frontal bar.
Actually there are three in horizontal alignment, but I covered the outer one's with a black sharpie.
But still, with what should I align the notch here ?!?
Results are usually quite consistent, but too high.

For comparison the iron sight I have installed on my Sanlida crossbow, which gives much more consistent results.

The "bead" is part of the sight this crossbow came shipped with.
At least up to 20 yards, accuracy is as good as with a scope.