1) Could be a bad scope. You have another one to try.

2) Check to see how the arrow retainer clip lines up on the rail grove after shooting. If the retaining clip moves of center, could be a problem with the scope rail not returning to center after each shot and aligning itself perfectly on the rail grove. In other words, If you notice that the arrow retainer clip is lined up off center with the rail gorve after a shot, that is a problem.

 

It sounds like the scope to me. I don't think the string issue is anything but normal wear. Just push the servings back together. The shooting all over the place sounds like the scope. I would make sure everything is tight. It could just be a bad scope. The scopes that come with them are not that high quality. When I got my Ghost 385 I was having some issues sighting in. I checked to make sure the rings were tight to the mount and they were. It wasn't until I went to set the bow down I noticed that the rings themselves were not tight and the scope was sliding back and forth that is why I was having issues. Tightened it up and no more problems. Just saying it could be something stupid like that.

Or like stated above it could be the retainer clip

 

Check to make sure your cams don't have any nicks in them. This could be why the serving is getting frayed.

 

Thanks for the great advice. I will switch out the scope with a red dot shotgun that I have. See if that helps. As far as a the string wear I will never accept that a brand new bow with a brand new string should show that kind of wear after 40-50 shots. The strings they are sending these things out with are ridiculous. You would have thought that if the are selling 250,000 of these things that the string issue would be addressed. As far as the arrow retainer. It looks fine. The cams are not nicked or show no wear what so ever. Again- Why weren't these things checked when I sent it back? I told them it was shooting all over the place. Why didn't they ask for the scope to check that out? They only wanted the bow. If the arrow retainer was a problem they would have checked that out when they had it. I will switch out the scope and hope that that helps. Keep you posted.

 

Thanks for the great advice. I will switch out the scope with a red dot shotgun that I have. See if that helps. As far as a the string wear I will never accept that a brand new bow with a brand new string should show that kind of wear after 40-50 shots. The strings they are sending these things out with are ridiculous. You would have thought that if the are selling 250,000 of these things that the string issue would be addressed. As far as the arrow retainer. It looks fine. The cams are not nicked or show no wear what so ever. Again- Why weren't these things checked when I sent it back? I told them it was shooting all over the place. Why didn't they ask for the scope to check that out? They only wanted the bow. If the arrow retainer was a problem they would have checked that out when they had it. I will switch out the scope and hope that that helps. Keep you posted.

I have had the same string issue with my ghost 350, gonna get it restring with a better after market string and cable. Are your cables wearing as well? Love the bow dont get me wrong, but the string and cable issue is a bummer.

 

Without seeing the bow i will do my best to trouble shoot it, and create a resolution for you.

First thing the first 40-50 shots are extremely accurate, and then after that your bow is shooting all over the place. I would start off by getting a tube of (blue) loc-tite (DO NOT USE RED). It sounds like something is working its way loose. Apply a small amount to the 4 screws that hold the scope rings together. Once that is done apply a small amount to the two side screws that hold the scope to the scope mount. Let it sit 24 hours, and then shoot it. More than likely this is the cause of your headache, also make sure that the main assembly screw is not working loose either. If that screw works loose, the riser could pivot on the nose boss causing accuracy issues.
If this does not work, then I would move to the red dot and see if that will hold zero. If it does then you can point the issue out as the original scope.

Send me an e-mail of your strings and cables, as well as the RA number that you originally sent the bow in under.

Thank you,
Jesse

 

Thank you Jesse for your prompt attention. I checked all my scope fittings, nice and tight. I remembered reading somewhere on this website about someone taking the front threaded ring off the scope and adjusting it. What the hell I thought give it a shot. I twisted the inner threaded ring and fooled with it adjusting it in and out then replacing the threaded ring and I kept shooting eventually I got it to shoot 2-3 inch groups at 20 yards. I guess it was the scope. I am no scope expert but one of the reasons I bought this package was to get the illuminated scope. I really like the way the reticle circles light up. I hope it lasts. Sent you a pm of my ra# concerning the strings, because I don't have your email
Thank you again. Excuse my frustration, I really, really want this bow to work out, loved my quad 400.
And thanks to all the contributors who responded with great advice.

 

another crappy scope, what a surprise buy a package and only some of it works, seems like this is the norm with this company theres another thread on here about there scopes, being less then useless , but don't worry jesse will get right back to you won't have any solutions except send it back, you know what the real solution is don't put junk optics on your packages you sell to people who are buying these packages because thats what they can afford you watch someone will comment that just buy a better scope, well if thats what I should do then don't sell these xbows as the perfect hunting packages, all inclusive and buy the way the answer is just send it back well guess what I have better things to do then keep sending it back again and again, make it right before it is sold.......

 

Sounds like someone has a bad taste in there mouth. What do you excpect them to put on it. The process of building the xbow is the expensive part. So then you want them to throw on some $200. optics. Dont be cheap and buy yourself a good scope. I dont care what company sold the bow I would more then likely replace the scope. When I bought my xbows I had already planned on buying new scopes for them. I mean seriously these scopes are probably like $50. tops. They are just trying to give you a ready to hunt package. It is ready to hunt. You can zero at 20 and kill something. Xbows are not cheap for a reason. I Know the track alone on My Ghost 400 cost around $500. plus limbs, stock, strings, cables, cams etc... Then on top of that you excpect a really nice scope. Trust me I think they could do something different on there more expensive models or you could just not b!tch about it and go buy a new scope. I mean when you buy a rifle that has a scope on it do you keep it on there? Those scopes 90% of the time are junk. If you did just bought an xbow for $1000.00 do yourself a favor and go spend a couple hundred more to get a good scope. Dont depend on a $50 scope for what could be the hunt of a lifetime. No point of trolling on this page and calling Barnetts products crap and talk about how they have no answer for you. I just gave you an answer. If you are dumb enough to mail it back in over a $50 scope and pay around $30 shipping then shame on you. They make you a good xbow and then they put a basic package together for you. Almost all companies do that. You know I was looking at some other xbow scopes the other day at the bow shop and these other brands I thought sucked compared to the clarity of the cross scope. I dont think you would be happy unless you spend a couple more hundred dollars on a good scope. If they did outfit there bows with say a Nikon it would just run the price up on there bows.

 

OK, so adjusting this lens on the front of the scope seemed to help. I was wondering why? was the piece loose under the cap? Was it not adjusted right to begin with? Will I continue to have trouble with the scope? Any thoughts Jesse? I would love an explanation. Like I said I really like the design of the scope. Should I secure that part of the scope with some blue loctite? Why, why, WHY?

 

Ish,

Honest answer. I'm not sure how or why that fix works. We are currently working with our scope manufacturer to resolve any issues.

-Jesse

 

Sounds like someone has a bad taste in there mouth. What do you excpect them to put on it. The process of building the xbow is the expensive part. So then you want them to throw on some $200. optics. Dont be cheap and buy yourself a good scope. I dont care what company sold the bow I would more then likely replace the scope. When I bought my xbows I had already planned on buying new scopes for them. I mean seriously these scopes are probably like $50. tops. They are just trying to give you a ready to hunt package. It is ready to hunt. You can zero at 20 and kill something. Xbows are not cheap for a reason. I Know the track alone on My Ghost 400 cost around $500. plus limbs, stock, strings, cables, cams etc... Then on top of that you excpect a really nice scope. Trust me I think they could do something different on there more expensive models or you could just not b!tch about it and go buy a new scope. I mean when you buy a rifle that has a scope on it do you keep it on there? Those scopes 90% of the time are junk. If you did just bought an xbow for $1000.00 do yourself a favor and go spend a couple hundred more to get a good scope. Dont depend on a $50 scope for what could be the hunt of a lifetime. No point of trolling on this page and calling Barnetts products crap and talk about how they have no answer for you. I just gave you an answer. If you are dumb enough to mail it back in over a $50 scope and pay around $30 shipping then shame on you. They make you a good xbow and then they put a basic package together for you. Almost all companies do that. You know I was looking at some other xbow scopes the other day at the bow shop and these other brands I thought sucked compared to the clarity of the cross scope. I dont think you would be happy unless you spend a couple more hundred dollars on a good scope. If they did outfit there bows with say a Nikon it would just run the price up on there bows.

My TP was under $1000 and came with a $300 scope. So not all companies put crap on.

 

Bundled scopes on anything are not worth messing with. Factory strings do not last. These are just things people need to accept. You're paying for the BOW, and maybe a little extra for a scope package/bundle. Don't expect a bundled scope to perform as a higher dollar scope.

 

I don't see the major manufacturers having allot of problems with their scopes. But on this thread I see it all the time. Just food for thought

 

Now wait a minute not all Barnett scopes are having problems. Just the new scopes now being offered on the new bows. I have 2 different Barnett scopes and nothing wrong with either one of them. Barnett is a major manufacturer of crossbows.

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Ishi7, if you have had any dealings with compound bows then you already know that from the yoke to around the cams a little separation is normal. The same goes for xbows. As for as your inaccurate xbow it's probably the scope. Buy yourself a good quality scope and be done with it. And a little food for thought, all of the xbow manufactures are having issues. I think Barnett may be having some growing pains right now, but they are one of the oldest crossbow makers in the United States and that says a lot! You're probably getting a lot of string stretch also. Custom pre stretched strings are the only way to go. I would highly recommend Viper X strings!

 

Now wait a minute not all Barnett scopes are having problems. Just the new scopes now being offered on the new bows. I have 2 different Barnett scopes and nothing wrong with either one of them. Barnett is a major manufacturer of crossbows.

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X2 The Barnett factory scopes I have owned both the 4x32 have been fine.They are clear and function properly. Then again I aim at the kill zone on deer,fox and the occasional squirrel 10-40 yards not the hair on a gnats ass at 100 yards. My factory strings have held up very well with hundreds of shots on them with no issues other than the center serving sliding just a bit because of the cocking hooks which has not been a problem.

 

I do have to say it's odd to me I can't buy a bare bow. Why do I have to get there scope and arrows if I don't want them. You can purchas all the best vert bows bare and add what you like.

Rifles too.

 

Well if your TP had a $300 scope on it and it was less then $1000. it must not cost much at all to make a TP. No company is just going to give away a $300 scope with out somehow making there money back off of it. Think about it.

 

I am a Barnett fan through and through. With that said, I ordered my Vengeance in February of this year, the package deal. In that same order was my choice of scope, quiver, arrows (at the time). All I am saying is know what you are buying. So I still spent under $1000, have a good scope that I can hit a 4" circle with @ 100yards, and someone else from craigslist is very happy with the brand new Cross scope they got from me for $50. Another guy is happy that when he bought my Predator he got 3 brand new Headhunters, and If all works out a member here will put that Cross quiver to use in a few days. All that stuff in the package is useful....just not to me. All said in done if you factor in the sale of some of those package items I received I am under $900 easy. But are we really ever "ahead" when it comes to hunting gear and what we spend. Venison has got to be some of the most expensive meat per pound there is .

I will say that my stock strings are pushing 300 or more shots with minimal separation of the serving and no visible wear.

 

Well actually it was supposed to come with a $200 scope but they ran out and upgraded it for free. Now that is a good company. And it is made in the USA.

 

Ten Point scopes are not made in the USA! Never have been and they have never claimed that either. I own a TP.

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I was talking about the xbow was made in the USA not assembled in the USA. I would rather have a German or Japanese scope any day.

 

Barnett crossbows are now made in the USA in Tarpon Springs, Florida. I believe right in the same location as Wildgame Innovations. Or in the building across the road from them.

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I'd have to say, I've seen about 50 people on this site bash Barnett. For being one of the oldest crossbow companies now that Horton is gone and having sold millions of crossbows that's very few complaints as far as percentages go!

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