Well, it’s Amazon, so you should be able to try/shoot it and return if you don’t like it. That said, many here are very happy with the Wrath 430.

 

Definitely will give it a try. I am reading a lot forum discussions. First need to use loctite to assemble solidly

 

I had a KI Vital X for my daughter but did everything I could to make it accurate enough to be a hunting bow to no avail IMO. Anyway planned to replace it with a Wrath 430 since my son in law got a 430X at a great price on a Black Friday Sale and also had $100 rebate offered but they never did pay the rebate to this point…

I was impressed with the bow, especially the accuracy. Only reason I didn’t end up going that way is the rash of recent negative comments due to poor customer service along with their failure to honor the rebate offered on the 430X. There are good reviews also but plenty of recent negative ones to make me hesitant to go that route.

May have secondary influence to all the problems Velocity Outdoors is having with the Ravin line???

 

There are plenty negative reviews on it with broken string and limbs, and poor customer service. Their warranty does not cover labor according to discussions. So whatever issues needs to be figured out early. With luck may end up with a good one I hope

 

I have both of them u will love it... the swat is awesome it being small and trigger.. the wrath 430 is fast and its amazing also. To each there own. Great crossbows. Buy better arrows and better scope.

 

Already bought Burris Oracle X intended for Swat X1 but now it will go to the Wrath 430.

I bought some arrows from EBay that says +/- 0.001, and Sevr crossheads 125gr to try out

 

I've had 4 Centerpoints in the past great crossbow look at reviews online.. I be honest I shoot it more then my swat x1. There both good and u will love it.

 

Interesting to know you shoot wrath more. I thought the light weight and compactness will be a great draw to Swat

 

It depends on how you look at things. An "impulse purchase" to one person is actually a well-founded desire to pursue something better and more fulfilling. I can't understand why my wife doesn't agree with me. 90% of you guys do......such a mystery.

 

That was by design

 

I wish I could make impulse buys. 😁

 

Keep wishing and it will happen, I promise

 

It shoots faster way faster to be honest. They are both very very accurate to 80 yards. I have shoot the wrath 430 out to 100 with 3 inch group when I first got it. Again I paid 180 for custom made arrows. All weight and spine matched. The only difference I see and feel is how small the swat is and the trigger. Otherwise nothing else. I use one for one hunting situation (wrath430) and swat X1 for if I am stalking and or creeping around. U will love it. No matter what. Good luck. Also buy a good target. Or u will be buying more arrows.

 

I was draw to X1 exactly for the benefits you mentioned, would be great for stand and stalking.

Yes needs to get a good target maybe for 500fps.

Arrows in your case is costly but is worth it for the accuracy you are getting. It will stretch your confort shooting range maybe to 70-80 yards. I may need to look into that route as it will cut down my time for trial and error. Time is really precious and limited

 

I’ve had lots of xbows in the past 6 years at every price point. Liked most of em and loved a couple. The Wrath is one of those, especially the X. It’s compact yet not too small, respectively fast and very good quality for a sub$600 xbow.

For $340, it’s a bargain and IMO if you find one you like better, this is great backup.

Enjoy it!

 

I did not get X because it is Heavier and more expensive. I thought Burris Oracle X can be mounted to the front more and is hoping that will give me enough distance for eye relief. I am 6 feet so there is a chance the bow may be too short. Another thing is I would like to mount crank permanently so I can do things after in the stand.

If this works with good accuracy and reliability then this would give me time for an improved Swat in the future. Then this will be a good backup

 

I am seriously fighting the temptation, only thing holding me back is I am not a fan of cocking sleds. I have wanted to try out a Wrath 430 for quite a while.

 

Go for it

 

😂

 

Congrats on the new bow!

 

I’m debating, rationalizing, fighting the temptation, or whatever descriptive term or phrase you want to put on it also! It is a great bow as long as it doesn’t need customer service/warranty work done right off the bat… Leaning towards getting her a Excalibur Mag 340. Significant price increase especially since she would need a Charger EXT crank also…

 

Thats a tough choice, my MAG340 is currently my favorite crossbow. The Wrath comes with a cocking device which will cost you extra on the MAG340. I cant give an opinion on the Wrath except for that I still want one, but my MAG340 with an ACP trigger is really a magnificent shooter. If money is a concern get the Wrath 430, if its not I dont see the MAG340 giving you any issues warranty or otherwise.

 

Very nice I love KI crossbows one best values in 2024

Wishing you best
Multiple one FPS x 4.09 = what your paying for the speed of crossbow your buying
515 fps Bow x $4.09 =$2106
If that applied Rifles lmao you all see the cost of speed costing with crossbow compared to rifle

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My wife calls me the rationalizer. I generally do my homework on major purchases then start to rationalize to myself and wife. I consider myself pretty cheap, but at my age I figure if I can afford it why not! Never thought I would spend $1000 on a crossbow, bought two recently for $1250 each! I have some awesome deer rifles in my gun cabinet, never paid that much for any them. I guess if you wanna play you gotta pay! I honestly see the value in the crossbows I recently purchased. Don't mind paying for high quality.

 

It escalates. At one point I was thinking Ravin R500 but the problems associated with it scared me back. So instead of 500fps I will settle down at 400fps now

 

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Yes I will need guidance. My goal is first to establish the weight of the arrows I would like to have by testing several weights in field points, based on energy/speed trade off. I would like to keep higher speed unless it is for a great gain in KE or better long range accuracy.

Once I establish the weight, I will need to determine what bolts, broadheads, and nock.

At this point I have the 125gr Sevr broadheads and 300gr bolts. Likely I will keep this weight unless it is for better accuracy and substantial gain in KE.

 

I tested my Wrath with 400, 425 and 445 grain.
With 400 grain it was noticably louder and there was more vibration after the shot than with 425 and 445 grain.
425 was fine but still some vibrations. 445 grain turned out to be the quietest of the three and had the least vibrations (surprise, surprise...).

The Wrath 430 is actually a 415 fps bow with the minimum arrow of 370 grain (which I find way too light).
With the 445 grain setup speed dropped to 375 fps.
425 grain was 390 fps.
400 grain was 403.
For longevity of the limbs I would not go below 400 grain total arrow weight.

In my opinion 445 grain is perfect for the Wrath.

Ps.: Measurements were taken with the original S/C.

 

Keep total weight arrow with field point what warranty of that bow states

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At a minimum

 

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I havent seem lighted nocks weighing any less than 30 grains apiece.

I havent owned a Wrath but I do own 2 different Centerpoint bows. Mine have been flawless and I cant say enough about them for the money I spent buying either of them. And with both having trigger work done I just cannot see spending $1000 or more trying to get something as good as what I already have. Warranty?!? I dunno. I havent needed it..

 

Is the trigger adjustable? If so that would be a big plus. Do you have to change the trigger spring?

I thought luminous Nock is light. I have to check again.

 

You have to shoot 30 grain lighted nocks or they will bend in half. I tried lighter nocks out of a 405 bow and they bent in half, 40 grain nocks did not bend

 

In that case I will have 300gr bolts + 30gr lighted nock + 125gr broadhead = 455gr arrow. That should be OK. FOC maybe small though

 

The Wraths I own or have been involved with (and that's a few) all are 415ish bows with a 400 gn arrow. Today I'm shooting a 445 gn setup (TY FD) and I'm consistently sub 2" at 50 with a good pull.

I agree with Cronos, that's a freak Wrath or a BS YouTuber getting 400 fps with an arrow over 500 gn. No way..... Crossbow voodoo!

I shoot as ATN setup on two Wraths and the bow speed in the ballistic profile with the 445 gn arrow is 380 fps and it works.

Lighted nocks.... I'm using the TenPoint Alpha Blaze (22gn nock, 9gn bushing).

 

I suspect the speedometer was not working well to have that kind of reading for the YouTube.

Your 445gr arrow I assume it is not lighted? Or that is already using Alpha Blaze? Alpha Blaze already has a 13% FOC for the 20" version so that is attractive. I did not find the total gr of that arrow

 

Yeah that Tx_RDX guy makes me thinking to cut my arrows to 18". I tried to pull out the holder for the fieldtips/broadhead without success. I assume it was glued.

If I can cut to 18" then I can use a copper insert to make up the lost weight and increase FOC along the way, and also offset the impact of adding lighted nocked.

I have not figured out how to cut the arrow either. I have dremel and miter saw.

 

To get the insert out, I use a soldering iron to heat and loosen the glue and made a simple puller for the hot brass insert. Works well.

To cut the carbon shaft, this is the best way to get a square cut.

It's essentially similar to a dremel cutter, which you could use. Ideally you would need a way to square the shaft after the cut unless you could mount the dremel and squarely cut the shaft.