[dale lockwood]

Has anyone cocked this bow yet with the acusled-50?

Leaning towards this bow heavily because I much prefer hand cocking over a crank. I cocked the stealth nxt last year with the acu-50 and hated it! The 225lb draw weight simply isn’t fun to cock without a crank.

This bow has 190 lb limbs and I’m hoping that’s toned down enough to make sled cocking enjoyable.

Interesting, I would think the New Accu Pro crank offered would be very nice. But that is why they have choices.

 

[elkstalkr]

Interesting, I would think the New Accu Pro crank offered would be very nice. But that is why they have choices.

Oh I've tried the acu-draw pro and they are very nice. Huge improvement over the old acu-draws. I just prefer pulling it myself. I'm relatively young and have no physical impairments and can draw a bow WAY faster with acu-50s than a crank. Which I really like when I'm practicing and shooting a lot in a short time period. However if its too much "work" I would rather just use a crank.. i.e. the stealth nxt is definitely a bow I would opt for the crank on!

 

[dale lockwood]

Yes in my younger years I probably would of preferred pulling it myself also.

 

[Lazarus]

This tends to be one of the issues with the race for speed and smaller axel to axel measurements. It was not long ago that the average draw weight was 150# and most people were using rope cocker. Then the draw weights went up to 175 and cocking started to become an issue for more people. But a lot of people were able to continue with rope cocking. Now it has become more and more difficult to find crossbows with a draw weight that is less than 200# more and more common are the once unheard of 225# draw weights. As this continues cocking cranks, their efficiency and additional functions like decocking are going to become as important to the crossbow as the crossbow itself. Soon if you wish to rope cock the only options for you will likely be CAMX, and Scorpyd with lighter weight limbs But this would be yet another argument for opting for a 320 to 390 fps crossbow, when there are so many 400 to 480 fps crossbows on the market right now.

 

[dale lockwood]

Still going with Turbo M1 with actually very little knowledge of bows. It is interesting like each level of bow from the Wedge series-to the Titan-Turbo and so forth upward in about $200 step increases. What do you actually get sometimes for the bucks? Is it frills and fancy or something practical?
Bottom line many have the same FPS so the big question do you really shoot that much better at each price level. It would be interesting for someone with experience to shoot all Tenpoint bows and compare accuracy?
So what level of bow would you call not that functional? Cheap? What level is your starting point?

 

[TX_RDXguy]

Still going with Turbo M1 with actually very little knowledge of bows. It is interesting like each level of bow from the Wedge series-to the Titan-Turbo and so forth upward in about $200 step increases. What do you actually get sometimes for the bucks? Is it frills and fancy or something practical?
Bottom line many have the same FPS so the big question do you really shoot that much better at each price level. It would be interesting for someone with experience to shoot all Tenpoint bows and compare accuracy?
So what level of bow would you call not that functional? Cheap? What level is your starting point?

The crossbow choices today are almost mind boggling for someone new to the sport. I'd suggest you continue to study the bows you are drawn to and develop a set of "needs" and then find the xbow that answers those needs and fits your budget.

Five years ago I started with a list that looked something like this. Don't think the order of these is relative to importance

- I had a $1000 budget
- The company behind the xbow had to be proven and their service had to checkout
- Size was important because I hunt from climbers, ladder stands and small blinds
- I wanted an honest 350 fps bow shooting a hunting weight arrow
- The scope needed to have speed compensation because I knew I'd be shooting various arrow weights
- A cocking system was important to have so I could re-cock from a sitting position
- Safety features like auto-safe, anti dry fire were a must have
- String suppressors were a "want"
- Fit and finish had to be very good
- I also didn't want a first year design

That was my list and it served me pretty well. The xbow I bought that year was the Horton (TenPoint) Storm RDX and it hit all of those points and served me very well until the Nitro X came along this past year.

Your point on accuracy is interesting because you can actually find $300-400 xbows that are as accurate as $700-1,000 xbows shooting the same grade of arrow at hunting distances (60 yards or less). Now they very likely won't check off all the "wants" on your list and that's where finding the right xbow get's interesting.

I think what you find in the TenPoint line is that performance bumps are one price builder. You can see that the Titan M1 is 370, then the Turbo M1 is at 380, the Shadow is 390 and the Stealth is 410 fps. And there definitely is value in the narrower Shadow and Stealth, which is very important to hunters with space concerns.

All that said..... If I were considering the group of four mentioned above, I'd be a Turbo M1 guy. Plenty fast, narrow and light with the features I like. I'd probably buy from a dealer vs a retail outlet who would help me upgrade the scope.

Hang in there!

 

[Lazarus]

Now we are starting to look at the technology and looking at the advantages, and disadvantages. The largest disadvantage being price. The NXT crossbows use a multiple string and cable approaches to get no cam lean. This will greatly improve accuracy assuming that you have very good shooting skills. Unfortunately these crossbows are well above ASA and IBO speed limits, and heavy arrows will not get you under the speed limits. Would be nice to see TenPoint make a version of the Stealth that is intended to be ASA and IBO legal coming out of the box. The disadvantage is the price. The Nitro's combine Reverse Draw and NXT technology to get no cam lean in a Reverse Draw technology. It is at a cost of draw weight. The draw weight is very heavy for a reverse draw, but if you have good shooting skills can greatly improve accuracy. Then there are the true Reverse Draw Crossbows with the Horton Vortex, and Wicked Ridge RDX. The Vortex taking more advantage of the Reverse Draw technology with a low 135# draw weight. Producing 340 fps so legal for IBO competition out of the box, and a heavy arrow will meet ASA requirements. Wicked Ridge RDX has a 175# draw weight and 400 fps. Would normally expect to see better efficiency in draw weight to speed with Reverse Draw Crossbow. The Wicked Ridge also comes with entry level scope and arrows. The M1s are a traditional designed with great quality crossbows. This would be very desirable by many people looking for a crossbow. The Titan M1 can be made into a very good competition crossbow for IBO or ASA with heavy arrows. Wicked Ridge are very good entry level crossbows. Many of these can be made into very special crossbows with upgrades to scope, arrows, adding sound and string suppressors in time as someone new to crossbows grows with it. TenPoint is making crossbows for all people, just need to find the one that best fits what you need and desire.

TenPoint does not make a nonfunctional crossbow, or a cheep crossbow. The question should be what technology do you need and desire in your crossbow, and what do you feel most comfortable with?

 

[dale lockwood]

Lots of great advice for a beginner like me,keep it coming.

 

[ramrod]

The crossbow choices today are almost mind boggling for someone new to the sport. I'd suggest you continue to study the bows you are drawn to and develop a set of "needs" and then find the xbow that answers those needs and fits your budget.

Five years ago I started with a list that looked something like this. Don't think the order of these is relative to importance

- I had a $1000 budget
- The company behind the xbow had to be proven and their service had to checkout
- Size was important because I hunt from climbers, ladder stands and small blinds
- I wanted an honest 350 fps bow shooting a hunting weight arrow
- The scope needed to have speed compensation because I knew I'd be shooting various arrow weights
- A cocking system was important to have so I could re-cock from a sitting position
- Safety features like auto-safe, anti dry fire were a must have
- String suppressors were a "want"
- Fit and finish had to be very good
- I also didn't want a first year design

That was my list and it served me pretty well. The xbow I bought that year was the Horton (TenPoint) Storm RDX and it hit all of those points and served me very well until the Nitro X came along this past year.

Your point on accuracy is interesting because you can actually find $300-400 xbows that are as accurate as $700-1,000 xbows shooting the same grade of arrow at hunting distances (60 yards or less). Now they very likely won't check off all the "wants" on your list and that's where finding the right xbow get's interesting.

I think what you find in the TenPoint line is that performance bumps are one price builder. You can see that the Titan M1 is 370, then the Turbo M1 is at 380, the Shadow is 390 and the Stealth is 410 fps. And there definitely is value in the narrower Shadow and Stealth, which is very important to hunters with space concerns.

All that said..... If I were considering the group of four mentioned above, I'd be a Turbo M1 guy. Plenty fast, narrow and light with the features I like. I'd probably buy from a dealer vs a retail outlet who would help me upgrade the scope.

Hang in there!

I think statement is dead on. I know TP has some great offerings but I left the ATA show thinking the Turbo held the best and felt the best at the shot. Nobody said you had to drop two grand to be get a top bow.

 

[dale lockwood]

I think statement is dead on. I know TP has some great offerings but I left the ATA show thinking the Turbo held the best and felt the best at the shot. Nobody said you had to drop two grand to be get a top bow.

Thanks great info

 

[dale lockwood]

Waiting for a few more reviews before buying the Turbo M1.. What I have seen all are very positive.
Looks like right now probably buy for Wyverns. It looks like he is very helpful. What also makes a person lean that way also is no taxes and 6 free arrows, so that equals some places giving a 10% discount at best. Also most of those don't do warranty work etc.. Going with a smaller dealer than a chain store has many positives.
Not to start anything but it would seem there is other dealers just as expertise and good deals? Maybe not?
Your thoughts and experience?

 

[Lazarus]

David is a great person and will give you a great deal

 

[elkmo]

thanks

 

[dale lockwood]

First time crossbow owner needs?
Okay,if I buy the TurboM1 package as a beginner what else do I need? Lubrication,dummy arrow to uncock? Any first time accesories?

 

[atp500]

First time crossbow owner needs?
Okay,if I buy the TurboM1 package as a beginner what else do I need? Lubrication,dummy arrow to uncock? Any first time accesories?

I would want a case, either hard or soft to transport legally in a vehicle. Discharge target of some sort to uncock the bow. Maybe bi-pod or tri-pod depending on where or how you are hunting. A sling makes it easier to carry. Just a few.

 

[dale lockwood]

So are like the Turbo M1 sighted in at all out of the box for like 20 yards or do you start like at 10 yards and work your way out?

 

[atp500]

Interested in that too Dale. Ordering mine tomorrow! Maybe ask the Tenpoint rep?

 

[dale lockwood]

I believe it comes with Alpha nocks,can use use Omni nocks also?

 

[dale lockwood]

Well I just ordered from Wyverns on many of you people's recommendation on both accounts a new Turbo M1 with case. My hope was at least be in the middle with a good bow. So many makes out there,but seems Tenpoint has a good reputation.
This is my first entry in the crossbow world.
Now do I add a tripod and which one? Fixed blade or retractable? So many more decisions?

 

[dale lockwood]

Interested in that too Dale. Ordering mine tomorrow! Maybe ask the Tenpoint rep?

Did you get yours?