Great info Vent

 

Thanks for sharing......

 

A generation is a level in a family tree; a new set of descendants .
I have been saying the wrong thing i guess !!!
I have been calling the gen 4 a gen 1 extreme cam and gen 5 a gen 2 extreme cam and the 6 a 3 and 7 a 4 .
but by definition they are a different level in the same family , i will just have to get on board with this ,lol.

 

I just found another thing I missed in proofreading. This is all by memory, so it won't be absolute. If anyone has a model and year I missed, don't be afraid to speak up or add the information.

I forgot to add the 2012 to the 2011 SLP model, and the 100 for both years. Changes in bold.

- Gen 2:
2010 RDT-165 Solid limb
2011-12 SLP 100, 125, 150, 165 Solid Limb 2011 Telson 90, 110, 130 Split Limb


Technically there are Gen 4a, 4b, and 4c "Extreme" cams for the 2015 model year. Extremely minor engineering changes to the cam lobe on the underside of the cams. We'll just call them Gen 4's!

 

I just found another thing I missed in proofreading. This is all by memory, so it won't be absolute. If anyone has a model and year I missed, don't be afraid to speak up or add the information.

I forgot to add the 2012 to the 2011 SLP model, and the 100 for both years. Changes in bold.

- Gen 2:
2010 RDT-165 Solid limb
2011-12 SLP 100, 125, 150, 165 Solid Limb 2011 Telson 90, 110, 130 Split Limb


Technically there are Gen 4a, 4b, and 4c "Extreme" cams for the 2015 model year. Extremely minor engineering changes to the cam lobe on the underside of the cams. We'll just call them Gen 4's!

which ones found there way onto production bow's 4a 4b or 4c ?

 

which ones found there way onto production bow's 4a 4b or 4c ?

Wow !!!! nothing but the sound of crickets on this question !!!!

 

Silence is deafening....

 

Tim he’s (vent) so arrogant and is easily offended when someone else knows more than himself!


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I know this is an old post but this is my new Aculeus. Gen 7 cams...correct?

 

Oops. Didn't post a pic..

 

Yes, I agree, Ventilator has been a very big help and I appreciate him sharing his knowledge. We are fortunate to have him on this forum.

 

I had a limb shear on my DS380 and sent the limbs with cams in to Rex, and I got back a set of Gen 7 cams (2019 Nemesis 480) and what appeared to be considerably thicker limb tips.

Using the factory Rogue string and cables, I set it to the DS380 specs.

I would assume I could set this up a bit hot if I wanted without damaging anything - correct?

 

I had a limb shear on my DS380 and sent the limbs with cams in to Rex, and I got back a set of Gen 7 cams (2019 Nemesis 480) and what appeared to be considerably thicker limb tips.

Using the factory Rogue string and cables, I set it to the DS380 specs.

I would assume I could set this up a bit hot if I wanted without damaging anything - correct?

Those gen 7 cams are also on my 420. Same limbs as 380 someone said in here. I read they increase carbon in frame or something for the 420. You know all this though. Lol I learn from you.

 

I would think so

 

Gordon or Barnsdale limbs?

 

No clue, wouldn’t know how to tell. I don’t recall seeing anything even if I got any paperwork with them.

I remember reading something somewhere about thicker limb tips on the faster models up from the DS 380. My replacement tips measure about .470” thick and that was the spec for the heavier limbs I believe.

My DS380 ATA is 17 1/2”, the DS 420 is 16 1/2”.

My string length is 43 3/8” and the cables are 17 1/4”. I would think the DS 420 is a combination of those two being shorter to maintain proper cam timing.

I’m sure there’s a formula to determine the string and cable lengths to get to just a 17” ATA but I have no idea what that is.

 

What cam is on the new Deathstaker LT?

 

Looks like the %80 let off cams off tremor

 

Cleandate05100,
Wow...I see what you mean...the picture on Scorpyd's website of the new Deathstalker LT looks EXACTLY like the Tremor! Even has the aluminum rail and identical Tremor stock....
I thought the primary difference between the standard Deathstalker 380 and the new LT version was an adjustable, military/AR-15 type buttstock....didn't know it also had the Tremor cams?
On Wyverns website, in the detailed specs of the LT it makes no mention of the Tremor cams....and yet, there is that same photo!
I wonder if the picture attached to the Deathstalker LT description is actually a photo of the Tremor?
Haven't heard any mention of the Tremor cams on the Deathstalker LT?

 

Cleandate05100,
Wow...I see what you mean...the picture on Scorpyd's website of the new Deathstalker LT looks EXACTLY like the Tremor! Even has the aluminum rail and identical Tremor stock....
I thought the primary difference between the standard Deathstalker 380 and the new LT version was an adjustable, military/AR-15 type buttstock....didn't know it also had the Tremor cams?
On Wyverns website, in the detailed specs of the LT it makes no mention of the Tremor cams....and yet, there is that same photo!
I wonder if the picture attached to the Deathstalker LT description is actually a photo of the Tremor?
Haven't heard any mention of the Tremor cams on the Deathstalker LT?

Wyvern can't sell the DS LT with the AR stock option; that option is only available from Scorpyd unfortunately.

 

I'm pretty sure the AR stock is a $250 option but the LT has a newer cam than the 380 or 420.

 

I spoke with Rex a couple weeks ago about the LT. He told me about the AR stock option but I forgot to ask about what cam the LT had. He did say it was more accurate and less finicky because the new cam design reduces the string angle. That made good sense to me.
I've called and emailed Wyverns on several occasions and the answering machine says the same thing "Due to our busy season we can't take your call right now." That was in winter and 2 weeks ago. So, I sent emails...no answer. Just say'n
I'll buy from Rex if I get the LT. I'm kind of leaning that direction especially since the X1 date is floating around at this time.
Thx
Matt

 

I spoke with Rex a couple weeks ago about the LT. He told me about the AR stock option but I forgot to ask about what cam the LT had. He did say it was more accurate and less finicky because the new cam design reduces the string angle. That made good sense to me.
I've called and emailed Wyverns on several occasions and the answering machine says the same thing "Due to our busy season we can't take your call right now." That was in winter and 2 weeks ago. So, I sent emails...no answer. Just say'n
I'll buy from Rex if I get the LT. I'm kind of leaning that direction especially since the X1 date is floating around at this time.
Thx
Matt

I have a similar decision to make.....
If both the Tremor and SWAT X1 started shipping today, I would very likely go with the X1.
However, I'm betting the latest X1 ship-date of August 1st is pushed back again to at least Sept. 1st....would be awesome if they truly started shipping first week of August, but my gut is not optimistic about that.

 

SEW, BMiller, and the other "testers" have shown ENTIRELY too much excitement and enthusiasm for the X1 as being the "ultimate crossbow"! LOL!

 

Thanks for the reply Ventilator! I must have missed the Orion 150 under gen three cams. The eBay listing looked like gen 5 cams to me from your pictures. It had black limbs and camo stock, they listed it as 150lb. The other one with camo limbs showed ORION 150# on the inside of a limb. I was also looking for Orion Extreme, since that what's what the seller posted.

When I clicked on your screen name the pop that appeared said you are not allowed access, or something like that. I guessed you barred all private messages.

 

Thanks for the reply Ventilator! I must have missed the Orion 150 under gen three cams. The eBay listing looked like gen 5 cams to me from your pictures. It had black limbs and camo stock, they listed it as 150lb. The other one with camo limbs showed ORION 150# on the inside of a limb.

When I clicked on your screen name the pop that appeared said you are not allowed access, or something like that. I guessed you barred all private messages.

Don't click on it, point the cursor at it and a box will pop up.