[SEW]

I think my previously owned Scorpyd Aculeus 460 would just make the cut. It was so smooth, accurate, quiet and refined. Size was the only negative.

 

[xcal_precision]

I think my previously owned Scorpyd Aculeus 460 would just make the cut. It was so smooth, accurate, quiet and refined. Size was the only negative.

you mean the 480? Or is the 460 older

 

[xcal_precision]

id have to be out in an open field to fire that thing off lol. massive. definitly holding that one backwards to walk thru the brush!

 

[xcal_precision]

so now I guess size is also a major factor. I wouldn't want to deal with the above in the woods or small shoot houses

 

[xcal_precision]

working with the excal suppressor extreme wing span last year in the brush and small shoot house was a pain

 

[xcal_precision]

wish they would get this thing up to speed:

 

[xcal_precision]

and drop it in a McMillan a5 for me I'd be all set

 

[Huntersthompson]

If a xbow shoots a 450 gn arrow 400 fps or better it should be included.... otherwise the gene pool is to shallow.

 

[One eyed archer]

I had a 505 for a small period of time and accuracy wasn't an issue shooting AJ's custom Zombies. He had the weight on them at 486 grains with 100 gn head and 160 gn inserts. It would pile them in there with a lot less than a 2" group at 50. Closer to 1". I ended up selling it to fund a grapple purchase for my tractor. My targets were also not up to the task of consistently stopping it so I would have had to upgrade. Decided to move on and kinda regret it!

 

[SEW]

I think. Aculeus 460 is 460 with 400g. Mine came with a signed 458/400. Within less than 50 shots 445/400.

 

[xcal_precision]

I had a 505 for a small period of time and accuracy wasn't an issue shooting AJ's custom Zombies. He had the weight on them at 486 grains with 100 gn head and 160 gn inserts. It would pile them in there with a lot less than a 2" group at 50. Closer to 1". I ended up selling it to fund a grapple purchase for my tractor. My targets were also not up to the task of consistently stopping it so I would have had to upgrade. Decided to move on and kinda regret it!

did you have it long enough to get a sense of how it would have held up over several thousands of shots and what the maintenance effort would have been to get it there.

 

[xcal_precision]

I think. Aculeus 460 is 460 with 400g. Mine came with a signed 458/400. Within less than 50 shots 445/400.

how do you think it would have held up to around 4000 round and what would the maintenance have looked like to get it there. What was the accuracy at 50 yards?

 

[dpms]

I don't know what do you think the top tier is right now 480+??

I think anything above 350 is fast, lol.

 

[SEW]

how do you think it would have held up to around 4000 round and what would the maintenance have looked like to get it there. What was the accuracy at 50 yards?

It did not feel stressed at all. Accuracy was SWAT/long &med limb’d Excal level (as good as it gets). With custom arrows, 1” 6-shot @ 60 yds and 2” or better @ 100 yds. Scorpyds were known for longevity.

Wide limb’d Scorpyds are known for extreme accuracy and longevity. Size is the only negative. The Tremor (?sp) was narrower but seemed like what the Black Knight was to Oregon bows: a step too far.
I’ve wondered if a de-tuned Tremor would be practical but don’t really know the source of it’s problems.

 

[xcal_precision]

I think anything above 350 is fast, lol.

waiting for 400 fps excal clang to waaaap at 40 yards is painful for me....

 

[xcal_precision]

what about plugging everyone's ratings into this to see what cream rises to the top?

 

[SEW]

Many people on this board have been or considered this path you’re on.

I’m going to give you a parallel. 40-50 years ago, fighter and fighter-bomber acft were judged on how fast they could go, their acceleration rate and g capability for dog fighting. Sites like Quora, etc have countless questions like could the F35 or the F22 out dogfight such and such latest Chinese or Russian fighter, which is faster, etc.. WHO CARES?

An F22 or F35 will have shot down/destroyed the other plane before they even got w/i 25 miles of each other. The Russian/Chinese planes (pilots) had no idea there was even an enemy acft out there. Who cares about dog fighting? It doesn’t happen anymore.

Fast fwd with crossbows. Rangefinders, modern multi lined or turret adjustable scopes or smart scopes and that small %age of speed difference of 400 vs 350 or even 450 vs 350 has become relatively meaningless - just like dog fighting.

Generally, the cost of really fast outweighs any advantages.

 

[retrieverman]

Personally, I don’t care about speed, but dependability matters greatly because I hunt 500 miles from home in the absolute middle of nowhere.

After having limbs break on two Excaliburs in a short amount of time in 2018, I called Danny Miller for advice on a dependable “bullet proof” crossbow, and at the time, he recommended a Stryker Offspring. After several years of use and thousands of shots, his advice has proven true so far.

 

[SEW]

What were the 2 Excaliburs?

 

[xcal_precision]

Many people on this board have been or considered this path you’re on.

I’m going to give you a parallel. 40-50 years ago, fighter and fighter-bomber acft were judged on how fast they could go, their acceleration rate and g capability for dog fighting. Sites like Quora, etc have countless questions like could the F35 or the F22 out dogfight such and such latest Chinese or Russian fighter, which is faster, etc.. WHO CARES?

An F22 or F35 will have shot down/destroyed the other plane before they even got w/i 25 miles of each other. The Russian/Chinese planes (pilots) had no idea there was even an enemy acft out there. Who cares about dod fighting? It doesn’t happen anymore.

Fast fwd with crossbows. Rangefinders, modern multi lined or turret adjustable scopes or smart scopes and that small %age of speed difference of 400 vs 350 or even 450 vs 350 has become relatively meaningless - just like dog fighting.

Generally, the cost of really fast outweighs any advantages.

that makes sense. What Im trying to see for bow shopping is which one is at the top of the speed performance curve before the curve starts to fall off due to price, reliability, accuracy, size issues and such...